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This was taken from an ongoing thread about transubstantiation, located here.
In it, I noticed this post, and I decided to start a new topic on it. Perhaps O.S Luke can reply to this post.
Do many Protestants try to shy away from Philosophy and reject it, or is it because Transubstantiation is a Catholic term?
We must remember that Philosophy is used to explain and understand the Trinity and other Catholic beliefs that some of the Protestants share with us. Because they reject Philosophy, do they reject these other things?
These are honest questions. I’m not trying to bait at all, please don’t accuse me of such.
Al-Masih qam!
Andrew
In it, I noticed this post, and I decided to start a new topic on it. Perhaps O.S Luke can reply to this post.
Originally Posted by O.S. Luke
I would argue against transubstantiation being used to describe what happens at the Table to the bread and win at the Eucharist - it is an Aristotelian philosophical construct that is at odds with the mysterious nature of a sacrament.
However, after reading your article, I highly disagree with your premise. The bread and wine DO become the Body and Blood of Christ. Christ is really present - make no mistake about it.
That IS Transubstantiation. You’re almost Catholic! The term was created to help those who couldn’t come to grips with what happened. That is all. I’m so perplexed why people always like to jump the gun on it, and immediately deny it because it sounds philosophical.
Do you argue against the Trinity? Philosophy has been used to justify it. One could rightly say that the Trinity is a philosophical construct used to explain God. Should we not be explaining a mystery?
What about the Hypostatic union? I suppose that’s too philosophical, too. Better just leave it as a mystery, right?
We have to understand that the West developed differently, because they had to face against different heretics than the east. These terms aren’t in opposition to God’s revelation to us, but help to give the only insight that they can give, because they are still mysteries, no doubt.
The Church as a whole developed these terms in opposition to heresies, and to help bolster the faith of the people, which it invariably did.
Al-Masih Qam!
If the Anglicans took the belief of Transubstantiation with them in the beginning, why did the Wesleyans abandon it and why didn’t the United Methodists when they were created in the '60s return to it?Andrew
Do many Protestants try to shy away from Philosophy and reject it, or is it because Transubstantiation is a Catholic term?
We must remember that Philosophy is used to explain and understand the Trinity and other Catholic beliefs that some of the Protestants share with us. Because they reject Philosophy, do they reject these other things?
These are honest questions. I’m not trying to bait at all, please don’t accuse me of such.
Al-Masih qam!
Andrew