Why is there so much liturgical abuse?

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Liturgical abuse of one form or another seems to be much too pervasive from parish to parish across this country, and probably throughout the world. With all the documents written by the magisterium on the proper way to conduct mass and abuses to avoid, why is it that so many parishes seem to outright disregard the guidance we have been given by Rome? Is it ignorance? Is it a rebellious attitude? Why do so many priests tolerate it in their own parishes, or worse yet participate in it? I just don’t get it. We are supposed to be the *One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, *not the “church of doing it my own way whenever I feel like it.” We have been given clear rules to follow in the proper celebration of the mass. What is going on?
 
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Chris-WA:
We have been given clear rules to follow in the proper celebration of the mass. What is going on?
Actually the rules are far from clear, they vary from diocese to diocese from community to community.

e.g. , is liturgical dancing an abuse?

The vatican said that it is inappropriate for the west, but o.k. in the 3rd world. But how about 3rd world congregations in the United States (for example)?

In a thousand places the various exceptions, and indults, could fill volumes.

Remember this one point, the document known as the Girm stand for the General Instructions for the Roman Missal. The specifics is where the abuses and alleged abuses so often occur.
 
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Actually the rules are far from clear, they vary from diocese to diocese from community to community.

e.g. , is liturgical dancing an abuse?

The vatican said that it is inappropriate for the west, but o.k. in the 3rd world. But how about 3rd world congregations in the United States (for example)?

In a thousand places the various exceptions, and indults, could fill volumes.

Remember this one point, the document known as the Girm stand for the General Instructions for the Roman Missal. The specifics is where the abuses and alleged abuses so often occur.
I think you are being too legalistic here, and I think it is simpler than what you make it out to be. For example, if the Vatican says that liturgical dancing is not allowed in the West, than it’s not allowed in the West. Someone trying to pick that apart could ask the question, “Well, what about 3rd world congregations in the United States.” Since that issue is not specifically addressed, one should revert back to whatever guidance the Vatican has alrady given, which is no liturgical dancing in the West, and follow that guidance until more specific guidance is provided. Some people think that lack of specific guidance in one area gives them license to do what they want, even if that violates the broader guidance already given. I say if in doubt, be obedient to whatever guidance has been given until you hear otherwise from the magisterium. Why push a limit without specific authorization from Rome? And your right that the *G *stands for General, which also means that they apply to *everybody *and cannot be violated by any diocese.

And I don’t think most abuses arise from lack of guidance or confusing guidance either. Many liturgical abuses are outright violations of the GIRM. For example, laypersons giving homilies is one such violation. I have seen it done before, but it is specifically forbidden by liturgical law. I had one pastoral associate tell me that this is the pastor’s perogative and that it was the local tradition. Well that was a bunch of hooey because this practice is specifically forbidden. Not even a bishop can change it.
 
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