Why its a horrible idea to lawyer up. Marriage and Family

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This commentary is more about our temptation to hire a lawyer when we have marital issues and that can only erupt into a court battle which is against Saint Paul’s letter to the Corinthians when he says you shall not put forth your arguments in front of pagan judges. It’s really easy nowadays to get a annulment to have people especially even other Catholics that maybe have fallen into worldly desires to say oh yeah that’s okay you can just divorce. Especially in the women who are weaker and it’s so easy nowadays to just get a job because there’s equal rights for women now so women really don’t at first realize any trouble but then as it goes on and on you start to realize whoa what is this about? That’s why hiring an attorney is just such a bad idea. First of all you’re paying someone to be your friend and why would you even do that in the first place but all these attorneys they’re just in it for the money and they’re not good people of character and wisdom. They don’t study scripture they don’t care about social justice so why are you bringing them in your family matters? It’s much easier just to say the rosary go to mass and go to confession. We have this fantasy that marriage is supposed to be some sort of Endless Summer but it’s really not if you look back hundreds of years even in the Victorian era and stuff women didn’t have bank accounts they didn’t have many possessions this is all just new stuff and we just take it for granted like oh well if he doesn’t share everything with me he’s just you know I need to get a job I need to have what he has. But as you can see riches don’t make anybody happy not even men. The riches are their Earthly reward they don’t get anything else. They don’t get a nice car and Heaven they don’t get a nice house in heaven unless it’s a spiritual house that’s grown from their spiritual practices and deeds. Now how many people would hear this in court absolutely no no one would hear words like this in Court actually the judge would probably just nix it and so if we can’t talk like this in court why are we hiring lawyers and why are we wasting our time talking about horrible laws because divorce shouldn’t even be legal. Now If divorce were no longer legal you wouldn’t hear so many people talking about lawyers on forums. They wouldn’t worry be like okay I need to work this out what do I do here is my spiritual weapons. But since we’ve been given that quote-unquote option of divorce now people are like well maybe I should just do this because it’s just easier and my friends won’t like me if I stay in it you know if I have a frown on my face cuz I’m trying to deal with my problems so I better just lawyer up. But we know in our heart that divorce is wrong we know that these fake annulments are wrong. There’s this little place in our heart that tells us this isn’t right. And the priests are all too easy to grant them nowadays. They’re not any better than the Civil judges or the lawyers. So in conclusion stay far far away from lawyers or anyone that recommends them. It’s far better to study Catholic Social teaching and to spread the gospel.
 
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OP, are you married? Some of what you are saying here makes no logical sense and your generalizations are so many I wouldn’t even know where to begin.

Also, I see that you are new. Just a tip. Please try and use paragraphs. A block of type is difficult to follow, and honestly, many people won’t even bother reading your posts if you use that way of posting.
 
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First of all you’re paying someone to be your friend and why would you even do that in the first place but all these attorneys they’re just in it for the money and they’re not good people of character and wisdom.
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Ouch. You really blew up St. Thomas More here. 🤨
 
RolandThompsonGunner said:
Ouch. You really blew up St. Thomas More here. 🤨
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And a number of members on this very forum who are practicing Catholics and lawyers.
Saintphilomena said:
This commentary is more about our temptation to hire a lawyer when we have marital issues and that can only erupt into a court battle which is against Saint Paul’s letter to the Corinthians when he says you shall not put forth your arguments in front of pagan judges.
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Are canon lawyers and judges pagan?
 
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Fauken said:
True. Ah, modern law school debt. Freshly graduated lawyers are just rolling in money these days.
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I just like the idea that I’m hired to “be my clients friend.” Believe me, I have zero desire to hang out with most of my clients socially.
 
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Saintphilomena said:
But we know in our heart that divorce is wrong we know that these fake annulments are wrong. There’s this little place in our heart that tells us this isn’t right. And the priests are all too easy to grant them nowadays.
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You might want to learn a little about the annulment process.
Also about marriage, and why divorce can be necessary, by the way.
 
I’m not sure where this diatribe is coming from…but, it sounds like someone who’s wife took him to court and he lost big time.

I’m not saying this is what happened…just what it reads like!

If someone wants to avoid lawyers, I hope they’re never in a situation where they actually need one. Plus, lawyers run the gamut of horrible people to almost saints. In it for the money? Ha! Many are working their tails off and barely putting food on the table.
 
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It’s abundantly clear that you don’t understand Legal Divorce, Lawyers or Annulments.

If this rant has anything to do with your personal life, I would suggest consulting your Priest and a Therapist.
 
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RolandThompsonGunner said:
Ouch. You really blew up St. Thomas More here. 🤨
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And St. Ives and St. Francis de Sales and a host of other saintly lawyers.

OP: your post doesn’t seem to make much sense overall, and is hard to read because it’s a big wall of text.
Are you married? Are you going through a divorce? Exactly what is your motivation in making this sort of post?

As said above, if this has to do with your personal situation, please speak to your priest and a counselor.
 
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If I were the OP, I’d be reluctant to come back again, too–the comments have been roast after roast after roast.
 
The OP has posted in several threads regarding marriage issues/ women in bad marital situations, and has made a number of statements that do not comport with the TOS of the forum, including denigrating the clergy, lawyers, and psychologists, as well as controversial generalizations about both women and men. At this point, I’ve flagged and will let the mods sort it out.
 
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Hi! Who programmed you? Were you trained by Wikipedia? Do you know Watson? How about Ken Jennings?

Looks like you could stand some retraining. I recommend GPT-3.
 
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It sounds like you’ve had a bad divorce. Based on the attitudes expressed in your wall-of-text, the reasons for that do not seem too much of a mystery. If that is what has happened, you are on a bad path. If you fall to bitterness and resentment you will walk further down that path. There is nothing good down there, many have walked it before, and those that kept on it ended in Hell, both in this life and the next. Look into yourself, learn and pray. Learn from Cain, lest you become him.

God Bless, and good luck.
 
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Saintphilomena said:
against Saint Paul’s letter to the Corinthians when he says you shall not put forth your arguments in front of pagan judges.
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We do not read as sola scripture

Not all legal people are pagan…

I feel I am reading a very unentertaining ‘vent and rant about unresolved issues’
 
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