Why should an atheist be pro-life?

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I’m feeling conflicted. I worded the question as I did in an attempt to deter “God said so” answers.
 
Short answer: Because every human should have the right to live.

Longer answer:
If you believe in such a thing as human dignity, why take that away from someone who hasn’t even had the chance to gain it?

People seem to be all for “saving the whales” and giving animals rights, but then become hypocrites when they won’t give every human, even those unborn, rights.

Babies in cases of rape are just as much a victim as the mother. They didn’t ask to be put in that situation, so why punish the innocent for the crimes of another.

Also, murder is the killing of one human by another. An unborn child in the womb is undoubtedly a human, gaining two sets of DNA from mother and father to create a unique strand of DNA, a unique human being.
 
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I’m feeling conflicted. I worded the question as I did in an attempt to deter “God said so” answers.
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The issue of whether or not a true life form exists makes a lot of people feel pretty ambivalent about abortion.

Atheists tend to be logical, and something is growing and it’s not a cancer or anything harmful Killing it off for the sake of convenience or economics is extreme if a human being is what is killed off.

Actually, I think that if there is a God then the sinless child/life form would immediately GO to God, so it’s more reasonable to think that the believers would be more at ease with abortion than athiests.
 
From the moment of conception, the baby has a unique DNA strand from the mother and only needs time and nutrition to grow.

2 humans can only make humans.

To say a baby is human only after a certain date is not logical.

Long ago, before we became so ‘advanced’, uneducated people 500 yrs ago knew it was a baby that the woman was pregnant with. Why can’t we?

No legal system would punish the child for the crimes of his father, yet abortion does that very thing. A man could indeed be guilty of raping a woman, but the legal system allows capital punishment of the child because of the rape. Does this make any sense?
 
Hi! I love this website and I’d be interested in your thoughts:
godlessprolifers.org/home.html

The gentleman is charge of the website, Randall Jones, has some seriously compelling arguments, and if you scroll down to the button that says “library” there are some interesting articles written by him and others.
I’ll copy and paste from an open letter that he has sent to several pro-abortion sites… I hope that’s in line with the rules on the forum and so forth. anyway, here it is. What do you think? 🙂

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Dear Sirs,

Most anti-abortion sites offer to send you "free information and a church bulletin" or a Bible. As an atheist, I'm not impressed, and I don't want that stuff. More importantly, how are you going to convince an atheist of anything if you use a source that he does not accept or worse considers it a hoax? I am an atheist and opposed to abortions for the following reasons:

1. Even if someone believes that abortions are acceptable, then at least consider this:

    A. Most of the abortion methods are cruel, extremely inhumane, and very painful for the fetus/baby.

    B. If you intend to kill the fetus, then do so in a humane way. If the equivalent methods of abortion were used to kill animals at the dog pound, the ASPCA and other animal groups...well, you get the idea.

    C. The dangers associated with abortions are not explained clearly. Though most people believe that abortions are completely safe, there are many dangers physically and psychologically (infection, infertility, bleeding, depression, and suicide, just to name a few).

2. Abortions go against my belief in liberty and justice.

    A. Liberty to choose for one's self requires that, as free individuals, we are responsible for our actions and the consequences thereof.

    B. Justice is when you get what you deserve.

3. A woman should have the right to do with her own body what she wishes, but when she does what she wants to do, and as a result becomes pregnant, she has done what she wanted to do with her own body. However when she goes for an abortion, she is doing something to someone else's body.

4. What has the unborn done to deserve death? NOTHING! It is not at fault for anything including its own existence, and yet it is expected to pay with its life with no trial, no jury, and no say in what happens to it.

5. Every one knows that sex will result in a pregnancy, so sexually active people (and everyone else) should be responsible for their own actions unless they are not free. Freedom carries with it a requirement that you must accept responsibility for your own actions.

6. Pro-abortionists say: "If you don't like abortions, then don't have one." My response to them is: "That is a great logical process; you just changed my mind; I think I'll apply that to the rest of my philosophy and change my opinions about everything else too..."

    "If you don't like slavery, then don't enslave anyone."
    "If you don't like rape, then don't rape anyone."
    "If you don't like murder, then don't murder anyone."
    "If you don't like theft, then don't steal from anyone."
    "If you don't like lies, then don't lie to anyone."
    "If you don't like sexually transmitted diseases, then don't transmit one."
    "If you don't like terrorism, then don't bomb anyone."
    "If you don't like animal cruelty, then don't be cruel to one."
    "If you don't like oppression, then don't oppress anyone."
    "If you don't like arson, then don't burn the property of anyone."

As you can see this type of thinking is anarchy, at it's worst. Basically it says: "Shut up and let me do what I want; I don't care how it affects anyone else; I just want to do what I want to do." It is very self-centered and childish.

7. Most atheists do not see anything wrong with abortions and will not give you the time of day once you mention god or one of the many "holy" books that religious people believe in.

8. Another claim by abortionists is that the fetus is part of the woman's body and has no more consequences than removing some unwanted flesh. My response to that is: "If you smash your hand in a car door who feels the pain? You do! No one else, not your friends, your father, nor your mother. That PROVES that YOU ARE A SEPARATE HUMAN BEING, because you feel your own pain. If the fetus feels it's own pain, then that would make it a separate human being too."

Please feel free to use my logical arguments to help stop abortions. Please be sure to give me credit for my work.
Thank you for your time,
Randall M. Jones*
 
Science defines a living thing as something that grows, which can be said for an unborn child who is growing in the womb and when it is aborted it is killed and no longer growing. Besides that Planned Parenthood was started by Margaret Sanger who believed in Eugenics just like Hilter and believed that white people were a superior race. it’s not a coincidence 80% of Planned Parenthood clinics are in minority areas. You don’t have to be Christian or religious to see the evil here.
 
Basic arguments of consistency can easily help an atheist be pro-life. For example, if someone kills a pregnant woman, that’s two counts of murder/manslaughter or whatever the relevant crime is. Most people wholeheartedly agree with the law on this. On the other hand, if the woman herself wants to kill the child, suddenly that’s considered perfectly fine. The conclusion is that the baby is a person if and only if the mother would like it to be, which makes absolutely no sense.
 
CeaselessMedik said:
I’m feeling conflicted. I worded the question as I did in an attempt to deter “God said so” answers.
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You can remove God from abortion and you still have the same pain… the same dead precious child and the same wounded mother.

There is a dignity to human life no matter the age. One does not have to believe in God to value the dignity of life, especially human life.

One does not have to believe in God to see the destruction Post Abortion Syndrome has on mothers. A mother does not need to believe in God to feel wounded when she realizes the pain and destruction she caused her own innocent child, the child she has grown to love. The increase chances of physical risks to mothers from abortion do not change just because she doesn’t believe in God.

For the father, parents, or friend who supported or encouraged the mother to abort her child… they often suffer, too, even without a belief in God. They realize the value and love they later have for the child they helped to abort.

For the value of life in the mentally disabled or physically disable, one can be pro-life and care for the person through their sufferings even without belief in God or an afterlife. One can offer love and receive love from others - without acknowledging God.

In the matter of the Death Penalty, one does not have to believe in God to value the life of the criminal on Death Row. In a country where the criminal can be held in prison, unable to hurt others, even without belief in God, one can value the life of the criminal until natural death.

Pro-life simply means For Life, for a value in the gift of life, the gift of love, the gift of people, all people.
 
What if the mother of this atheist wasn’t “pro-life”? Then this atheist wouldn’t have been born.
 
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