Why were they talking about ordaining Amazonians as priests?

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We have this amazing quote by Bishop Krautler that he has never baptized a single Indian person.

“I have not yet baptized any Indian and I will not” ~ “Bishop” Erwin Krautler


So my question is, why were they talking about ordinations and the Eucharist when it seems there aren’t any Catholics to serve or ordain. And, of course, what’s the UN got to do with getting the sacraments to these people who aren’t even Catholic and never will be if “Bishop” Krautler has anything to say about it?
 
Is that a quote by the Bp.? If it is in the linked article, I missed it; the hyperlink about the 53 years with no baptisms takes me to a link that does not address the quote.

the only place I saw it referenced was a Lifesite article where it was like second- or third-hand evidence, that is to say, not a quote directly from the Bp., although it is alleged that it was common knowledge among those close to him. Not sure I would accept this at face value without more concrete evidence that the Bp. actually said this.
 
Bishop Krautler is the Prelate Emeritus of Xingu (which is now the diocese of Diocese of Xingu-Altamira) a territory roughly the size of Germany with a Catholic population of about 380,000, made up of 600 communities served by eighteen priests. Judging from Google Maps there are few (if any) sealed roads or major settlements. These obvious difficulties in ministry aside, the Bishop has observed that the indigenous communities do not understand celibacy making it difficult to attract local vocations - something which of course compounds the existing difficulty in attracting priests to undertake such an enormously challenging mission.

The way I read the article linked to, it’s basically a hatchet job trying to bash Amazonian communities by implying that they’re all a bunch of savages while completely ignoring the very real difficulties the communities in that region have in accessing the Eucharist. as far as the quote goes, it seems to be one of these lines that’s taken on a life of it’s own from being extensively quoted without any real attribution other than somebody else quoting the Bishop as having “once said” it. According to LifeSite News, “a source” confirms that the Bishop has never denied it but, even so that doesn’t actually make it true. As the old news saying goes, never let the facts get in the way of a good story!
 
MiserereMeiDei said:
We have this amazing quote by Bishop Krautler that he has never baptized a single Indian person.

“I have not yet baptized any Indian and I will not” ~ “Bishop” Erwin Krautler

A Mission That Baptized No One in Fifty-Three Years: The Flawed Evangelization Model of the Pan-Amazonian Synod - TFP.org

So my question is, why were they talking about ordinations and the Eucharist when it seems there aren’t any Catholics to serve or ordain. And, of course, what’s the UN got to do with getting the sacraments to these people who aren’t even Catholic and never will be if “Bishop” Krautler has anything to say about it?
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He was the bishop of Diocese of Xingu (Brazil) from 1981 to 2015. The current bishop of the new territory Xingu-Altimira is Joao Muniz Alves. There are 250,000 Catholics in that territory.


http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dxing.html
 
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