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Techno2000
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So, you believe Adam and Eve were born from soulless animal creatures ?
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Prodigal1984
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Lol.
It wasn’t an apple and nowhere does it say it was. It says fruit. It was probably a fig. I don’t think apples even grow in that region.
It wasn’t an apple and nowhere does it say it was. It says fruit. It was probably a fig. I don’t think apples even grow in that region.
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ralfyman
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You can probably consider No. 404 of the Catechism here.
There is also another article to consider from this website.
There is also another article to consider from this website.
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AHapka
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I like 404, it makes it clear it’s a mystery to a certain extent that we can’t completely know. Like all things in faith, we have to take some of it on, well, faith.
Can’t totally explain why, but it is what it is…
Can’t totally explain why, but it is what it is…
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Maximus1
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“And it was good.”
“And it was good.”
“And it was good.”
" And it was very good."
“And it was good.”
“And it was good.”
" And it was very good."
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Totus_tuus118
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This . Couldnt agree more.
The mystic Bl. Anne Catherine Emmerich allegedly had visions of the creation of Adam and eve, and Jesus’ soul entering into Abrahams bosom after his death delivering Adam and Eve along with all the just and the patriarchs there .
The mystic Bl. Anne Catherine Emmerich allegedly had visions of the creation of Adam and eve, and Jesus’ soul entering into Abrahams bosom after his death delivering Adam and Eve along with all the just and the patriarchs there .
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Techno2000
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WHEN Jesus, after uttering a loud cry, expired, I saw his heavenly soul under the form of a bright meteor pierce the earth at the foot of the Cross, accompanied by the angel Gabriel and many other angels. His Divine nature continued united to his soul as well as to his body, which still remained hanging upon the Cross, but I cannot explain how this was, although I saw it plainly in my own mind. The place into which the soul of Jesus entered was divided into three parts, which appeared to me like three worlds; and I felt that they were round, and that each division was separated from the other by a hemisphere.
Continue :
http://www.jesus-passion.com/THE_PASSION6.htm#CHAPTER LIX
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thistle
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First, Anne Emmerich never wrote anything and secondly her alleged revelations are not approved by the Church as they are considered forgeries by Clemens Brentano who was a poet and interviewed her and allegedly wrote what she told him.
Nobody should put any store on these writings at all.
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Techno2000
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THE DOLOROUS PASSION OFTotus_tuus118:
First, Anne Emmerich never wrote anything and secondly her alleged revelations are not approved by the Church as they are considered forgeries by Clemens Brentano who was a poet and interviewed her and allegedly wrote what she told him.
Nobody should put any store on these writings at all.
OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST
NIHIL OBSTAT: GEORGIVS D. SMITH. D.D.
CENSOR DEPVTATVS
IMPRIMATUR: EDM. CAN. SVRMONT
VICARIVS GENERALIS
WESTMONASTERII, DIE XXI MAII MCMXXVIII
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thistle
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My dear friend that is not a Church approval!!
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Techno2000
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Only a few Jesus and Mary apparition have been officially “approved” by the Church. For the other million private revelations out there, one has to look for an NIHIL OBSTAT or IMPRIMATUR to know that it doesn’t go against Church teachings. That’s good enough for most people …except you.Techno2000:
My dear friend that is not a Church approval!!
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thistle
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You obviously still misunderstand. Imprimatur and/or Nihil Obstat by a bishop (who often has not read books before giving that) is NOT a Church approval.
Anne, the Lay Apostle who published her 10 volumes was given Imprimatur by a Philippine bishop. That too is NOT a Church approval and in in both these cases Church approval (for different reasons) will never be given.
Here is a nice summary of Anne Emmerich’s situation:
“In 1892, well after her death, her Cause for Beatification was introduced by the bishop of Münster. She subsequently attained to the title of Venerable, indicating Rome’s recognition that she lived a life of heroic virtue. However, in 1928 Rome suspended the Cause of Beatification when it was suspected that [Clemens] Brentano [her secretary] fabricated material attributed to her. The Holy See has since permitted the Cause to be re-opened on the sole issue of her life, without reference to the possibly doctored writings. On 2 July 2003 a decree of a miracle was promulgated by the Congregation for the Causes of the Saints, opening the way for her Beatification ( L’Osservatore Romano N. 29, 16 July 2003, 2).”
You should stick to private revelations that are actually approved by the Church.
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Techno2000
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Pure speculation , anybody who has actually read her writing would recognize immediately that this didn’t come from the imagination Clemens Brentano.
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thistle
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Well the Church does not agree with you!
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englands123
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Do you honestly believe you will be Punished and Judged by The Lord because of Adam & Eve mistakes.
Sorry but if you truly believe that , you seriously need to pray for Wisdom from the Holy Spirit .
No one is or will be punished for the sins of Two people.
You will be Judged and Punished for your own mistakes. So stop blaming others…
Sorry but if you truly believe that , you seriously need to pray for Wisdom from the Holy Spirit .
No one is or will be punished for the sins of Two people.
You will be Judged and Punished for your own mistakes. So stop blaming others…
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Techno2000
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On 2 July 2003 a decree of a miracle was promulgated by the Congregation for the Causes of the Saints, opening the way for her Beatification ( L’Osservatore Romano N. 29, 16 July 2003, 2).”
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JoeShlabotnik
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Life in this world is not fair.
What are we going to do, whine about it?
No, we are going to move forward, live as best we can in this world, try to do our best to praise and glorify God in all that we say and do, help one another as brothers and sisters, confess our sins, and pray that God is merciful. Enough said.
What are we going to do, whine about it?
No, we are going to move forward, live as best we can in this world, try to do our best to praise and glorify God in all that we say and do, help one another as brothers and sisters, confess our sins, and pray that God is merciful. Enough said.
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thistle
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Correct. That was my post but you are ignoring the part I highlighted.
The Holy See has since permitted the Cause to be re-opened on the sole issue of her life, without reference to the possibly doctored writings. On 2 July 2003 a decree of a miracle was promulgated by the Congregation for the Causes of the Saints, opening the way for her Beatification ( L’Osservatore Romano N. 29, 16 July 2003, 2).”
In case you are not aware stigmata and revelations are not considered at all by the Church in the cause for beatification.
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Totus_tuus118
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i never said SHE wrote anything , i said she allegedly had visions. I’m well aware of the issue surrounding Clemens brentano .
The Church is been prudent and that’s understandable , but as another poster has pointed out… the writings have not been condemned either , the book has been given an imprimatur and Nihil Obstat, and so it wouldn’t be harmful as a tool for meditation.
The Church is been prudent and that’s understandable , but as another poster has pointed out… the writings have not been condemned either , the book has been given an imprimatur and Nihil Obstat, and so it wouldn’t be harmful as a tool for meditation.
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