Will heaven have its' ups and downs?

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I know nothing bad or evil will happen in Heaven, but will it all be the same all the time?

I don’t think it will. For example, within the seasons of the Church, there are fast days, ferias and holy days; within the Mass there is the liturgy of the prayers, the liturgy of the Word and the liturgy of the Sacrament. While the liturgy of the prayers on a feria is a good thing, its good is of a different degree to the liturgy of the Sacrament on Easter Sunday. In the same way, I’d like to think there will be some variation in Heaven.

St Paul tells us that faith, hope and love endure. Faith and hope need to have some kind of power in Heaven if they are going to endure, so I guess the hope is the expectation of the even more specially good things that keep on getting better and better.

Or are we required by the faith to believe that Heaven will always be the same and never change? That it’s so perfect that it can’t get better.
 
I tend to think in terms of separation from God…

The reason we experience pain, sorrow, or “downs” is because of our fallen state as human beings, in other words our temporary separation from God causes the ups and downs we experience…

How is it some of our saints that died as martyrs, died with smiles and looks of contentment on their faces? Is it possible that at the lowest moment of their mortal lives, they were uniting with God in Heaven? I would think so…

So, to answer your question, I think there will be no “ups and downs” in heaven, only true happiness…

…and the alternative would be…

…a permanent “down” caused from the eternal separation from God known as Hell.

Just my thoughts…

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I think you’re trying to impose the concept of time and change on eternity. In heaven, there will be no ‘ups’ and ‘downs’ but rather we will be perfectly happy by virtue of the beatific vision without variation or change of that state.
 
Personally I think God will mediate a vision of himself in such a way to each person in accordance to their individual capacity. What each person will see will vary according to their capacity and worth, but each will find in that vision endless possibility and growth into transcendance which are never possible in this life.
 
DL82 said:
I know nothing bad or evil will happen in Heaven, but will it all be the same all the time?

I don’t think it will. For example, within the seasons of the Church, there are fast days, ferias and holy days; within the Mass there is the liturgy of the prayers, the liturgy of the Word and the liturgy of the Sacrament. While the liturgy of the prayers on a feria is a good thing, its good is of a different degree to the liturgy of the Sacrament on Easter Sunday. In the same way, I’d like to think there will be some variation in Heaven.

St Paul tells us that faith, hope and love endure. Faith and hope need to have some kind of power in Heaven if they are going to endure, so I guess the hope is the expectation of the even more specially good things that keep on getting better and better.

Or are we required by the faith to believe that Heaven will always be the same and never change? That it’s so perfect that it can’t get better.
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Only love, “never fails.” (1 Cor 13:8). The three theological virtues remain because, in all, they are the only things that are really important. When we go to heaven faith will pass over into knowledge, hope will cede now having its object possessed, but love itself will persist-- love never fails.

To my surprise, the NAB has an excellent explanation on this one,
The greatest . . . is love: love is operative even within the other members of the triad (7), so that it has a certain primacy among them. Or, if the perspective is temporal, love will remain (cf “never fails,” 1 Cor 13:8) even when faith has yielded to sight and hope to possession.
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-Rob
 
Our minds are not capable of understanding the beauty of what heaven will be. Our earthly perceptions now engrained are not sufficient perspectives of what that eternal life will hold. If we trust in scripture that it is perfect and all loving - how could there be any downs?
 
Just my wild imagination, but I believe there’ll be a big celebration (UPZ!) when a sinner repents. 😃 😃 😃
 
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