Will terrorism on Vatican be welcomed?

[nordskoven]

youtube.com/watch?v=B2Kh-xzerjE&feature=related

President Obama raises the point that Christian division is extensive. Many Catholic mystics have foreseen the Vatican under attack, the most recent being Saint John Bosco. Bombing the Vatican for peace has been commended by the United Nations NGO, Lucis Trust, a Theosophist group, that wishes to prevent the Vatican from meddling in world politics (as reported by New Age researcher Constance Cumbey). Would violence against the Vatican be welcomed by “Bible-believing” Christians who cast Peter as the antichrist; New Age politicos; and Christians and Muslims radicals who disdain the Vatican as Babylon the Harlot, or “infidels” let alone any figurative art?

“Pray the daily Rosary for peace.” --Our Lady of the Rosary, Fatima, Portugal 1917

 

[mdrummer5]

youtube.com/watch?v=B2Kh-xzerjE&feature=related

President Obama raises the point that Christian division is extensive. Many Catholic mystics have foreseen the Vatican under attack, the most recent being Saint John Bosco. Bombing the Vatican for peace has been commended by the United Nations NGO, Lucis Trust, a Theosophist group, that wishes to prevent the Vatican from meddling in world politics (as reported by New Age researcher Constance Cumbey). Would violence against the Vatican be welcomed by “Bible-believing” Christians who cast Peter as the antichrist; New Age politicos; and Christians and Muslims radicals who disdain the Vatican as Babylon the Harlot, or “infidels” let alone any figurative art?

“Pray the daily Rosary for peace.” --Our Lady of the Rosary, Fatima, Portugal 1917

I don’t typically get into politics too much… but any Christian who would welcome any type of violence would hardly be able to call themselves Christians.

 

[nordskoven]

I can’t help but think of the Fatima prophecies of slain prelates, and Christ’s warning to Sister Lucia that His ministers would share the fate of the king of France if they do not consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary that she may convert that nation. That’s five million Muslims on board. There have been many consecrations, none universal uniting each diocese from the bishops’ respective cathedrals. Let’s do it again…and again! Here’s the Voice of the Martyr’s map at persecution.org and the Vatican looks to be dangerously close to violent anti-Christians.

persecution.com/public/restrictednations.aspx?clickfrom=bWFpbl9tZW51

 

[Genesius]

I haven’t followed the links yet, but I will. This is interesting. I am not sure if it belongs under this category of “Sacred Scripture”, however. Perhaps there is something in the link related to it.

I would have to agree with mdrummer5 on this one, however, just from reading the initial post. Anyone who supports violence toward any religion seems to be less of a real Christian, denying the grace and mercy that God extends to all humanity. Not trying to sound liberal, but it’s a fact. After all, the Catholic Church doesn’t go around judging those who persecute her, let alone threatening violence. This is one of the things that drew me to the Church…her sense of universality…her extension of grace toward all humanity… her non-judgmentalism…her gracious response to those not so gracious toward her.

 

[Genesius]

Okay…I clicked on both links. I’m terrible with geography so I’m not sure where Rome is in all that mess. The other link was the Youtube one. I can see what Obama was saying about the fact that we are a multi-religious nation, and not just Christian. I’m not sure that’s what the forefathers intended but that’s a different story. Anyway, regardless, he seems to be sidestepping the point. Most religions in the U.S. are at least linked to Christianity in some way, and all have a similar sense of morality. Bashing Christianity by relying on one’s own private interpretation of Scripture just goes to show how God intended for there to actually be a central teaching authority. The question for Obama remains…which one.

However, back to the original post…I didn’t see any links referring to this supposed bombing threat on the Vatican. Perhaps it’s legit, and I wouldn’t be surprised, but can you provide some documentation?

 

[Timothy17]

It’s not right to envisage evil being perpetrated against the Church and/or her clergy, as in what a protestant Christian fundamentalist use of violence most certainly would be, for example. It risks also toning down our just reaction to such evil being perpetrated against the Church. Granted, God Himself does and can chastise His Church from time to time, but that is His exclusive right and perogative (it is, afterall, His Church). When private men do it for their own misguided and highly personal reasons (be they religious ones or otherwise) we cannot reckon it as a kind of chastisement. That is plain and simple evil in direct violation of the Commandments.

In times past it was considered treason, for example, to envisage or wish for the king’s death. That’s extremely strict but not illogical. Desires and actions formulate first in our minds. We have a duty to resist evil ones. If we want a better state of affairs in the Church or with the Church in the world, we should pray for that, not speculate on apocalyptic acts of violence, etc., even if we are only imagining other parties (and not ourselves) doing it.

The Apostle instructed us to contemplate on things that are noble, good, heavenly, godly, just, right and pure, etc.

Pax Christi,
Tim