Will the nations try to make war when Jesus returns?

[mikekle]

I was listening to a preacher on tv before work this morning, they were talking about the second coming and how when Jesus touches down on the Mountain, majority of the nations in the world will try to declare war on him.

Why would they do this? Will they not recognize him as Christ or will it be due to Jesus ‘upsetting’ all they have built, by kind of throwing a wrench into the whole system of Govt, people will probably not listen to Govts once this happens, Im sure there will be alot of initial panic about whats going on, etc etc.

I know the US (or any nation really), is not specifically mentioned, but since we are a christian nation, it seems to me, the US, UK, probably Mexico, Canada, definitely Russia, would definitely recognize him when he comes back, but maybe Im wrong?

 

[Purgatory_Pete]

I was listening to a preacher on tv before work this morning, they were talking about the second coming and how when Jesus touches down on the Mountain, majority of the nations in the world will try to declare war on him.

Why would they do this? Will they not recognize him as Christ or will it be due to Jesus ‘upsetting’ all they have built, by kind of throwing a wrench into the whole system of Govt, people will probably not listen to Govts once this happens, Im sure there will be alot of initial panic about whats going on, etc etc.

I know the US (or any nation really), is not specifically mentioned, but since we are a christian nation, it seems to me, the US, UK, probably Mexico, Canada, definitely Russia, would definitely recognize him when he comes back, but maybe Im wrong?

They recognize Him now, but many in the world are waging war on Him and His sheep as we speak. Why would they change when He returns? (From what I have read & heard over the years, I think the world will already be in the throws of world war when He returns, this might be incorrect though.)

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[Sparkythedog]

I was listening to a preacher on tv before work this morning, they were talking about the second coming and how when Jesus touches down on the Mountain, majority of the nations in the world will try to declare war on him.

Why would they do this? Will they not recognize him as Christ or will it be due to Jesus ‘upsetting’ all they have built, by kind of throwing a wrench into the whole system of Govt, people will probably not listen to Govts once this happens, Im sure there will be alot of initial panic about whats going on, etc etc.

I know the US (or any nation really), is not specifically mentioned, but since we are a christian nation, it seems to me, the US, UK, probably Mexico, Canada, definitely Russia, would definitely recognize him when he comes back, but maybe Im wrong?

What mountain is Jesus supposed to “touch down” on? And why a mountain, for that matter? It’s one of those things that sounds really epic, but in reality it’s just gonna be super inconvenient.

For one thing, no one is going to see Jesus touch down way up there. Ok, maybe a hiker or two. But then he’s going to spend a long time trekking down the mountain to get to the bottom. Then he’s gotta flag a ride into the nearest town. Seems like kind of a wasted effort for very little return.

What he should do is just touch down during the Olympics or the World Cup. Somewhere people are watching anyways. That’ll help with the recognition issue. It’ll probably be all over YouTube.

 

[mikekle]

What mountain is Jesus supposed to “touch down” on? And why a mountain, for that matter? It’s one of those things that sounds really epic, but in reality it’s just gonna be super inconvenient.

For one thing, no one is going to see Jesus touch down way up there. Ok, maybe a hiker or two. But then he’s going to spend a long time trekking down the mountain to get to the bottom. Then he’s gotta flag a ride into the nearest town. Seems like kind of a wasted effort for very little return.

What he should do is just touch down during the Olympics or the World Cup. Somewhere people are watching anyways. That’ll help with the recognition issue. It’ll probably be all over YouTube.

I believe its Mount Olivet, I think you are a bit mistaken, Jesus ‘touching down’ will not be something akin to a guy coming down from a parachute, this event will be like nothing anyone has ever seen, there will be no question who it is when it happens.

Im thinking many nations will try to declare war on him may have something to do with Jesus coming back and telling those in power they have been wrong on many things and its going to change RIGHT NOW, whether you like it or not…push someone into a corner and they will try to fight back, nations will likely react the same way, they will feel threatened.

 

[Crusaderbear]

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Im thinking many nations will try to declare war on him may have something to do with Jesus coming back and telling those in power they have been wrong on many things and its going to change RIGHT NOW, whether you like it or not…push someone into a corner and they will try to fight back, nations will likely react the same way, they will feel threatened.

I imagine it will be the senior clergy who have the biggest problems, like you said, if their personal view of the 'new order’isn’t supported to the letter, they may very well scream ‘anti-christ’.

On a lighter note, imagine the upheavel when they disover the lord meant celebrate, not celibate!

 

[mikekle]

I imagine it will be the senior clergy who have the biggest problems, like you said, if their personal view of the 'new order’isn’t supported to the letter, they may very well scream ‘anti-christ’.

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Oh yes, this will be a big problem, just look at all the debate, back and forth on CAF about end times predictions, events, etc, and this is before anything big has happened, I cant imagine how bad these debates will be when the ball starts rolling!

But then again, even Jesus himself said MANY would be deceived, they would not see what is happening right in front of their eyes.

Im staggered at many things happening in the world, all over the news, yet so many people say they have absolutely nothing to do with bible prophecy, and they just blow them off.

 

[josh987654321]

I was listening to a preacher on tv before work this morning, they were talking about the second coming and how when Jesus touches down on the Mountain, majority of the nations in the world will try to declare war on him.

Why would they do this? Will they not recognize him as Christ or will it be due to Jesus ‘upsetting’ all they have built, by kind of throwing a wrench into the whole system of Govt, people will probably not listen to Govts once this happens, Im sure there will be alot of initial panic about whats going on, etc etc.

I know the US (or any nation really), is not specifically mentioned, but since we are a christian nation, it seems to me, the US, UK, probably Mexico, Canada, definitely Russia, would definitely recognize him when he comes back, but maybe Im wrong?

I think there is a lot of confusion and errors being spread when it comes to Jesus second coming and I am still learning in this area myself (trying to wade very carefully through much of the garbage out there, mainly by sticking to reliable sources), here are the things I am aware of -
The Gospel of Luke 21:7-18:

The Destruction of the Temple Foretold

5 And as some spoke of the temple, how it was adorned with noble stones and offerings, he said, 6 “As for these things which you see, the days will come when there shall not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.” 7 And they asked him, “Teacher, when will this be, and what will be the sign when this is about to take place?” 8 And he said, “Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am he!’ and, ‘The time is at hand!’ Do not go after them. 9 And when you hear of wars and tumults, do not be terrified; for this must first take place, but the end will not be at once.”

Signs and Persecutions

10 Then he said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; 11 there will be great earthquakes, and in various places famines and pestilences; and there will be terrors and great signs from heaven. 12 But before all this they will lay their hands on you and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors for my name’s sake. 13 This will be a time for you to bear testimony. 14 Settle it therefore in your minds, not to meditate beforehand how to answer; 15 for I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries will be able to withstand or contradict. 16 You will be delivered up even by parents and brothers and kinsmen and friends, and some of you they will put to death; 17 you will be hated by all for my name’s sake. 18 But not a hair of your head will perish. 19 By your endurance you will gain your lives.

Matthew 24:29-31:

The Coming of the Son of Man

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken; 30 then will appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory; 31 and he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

The sign of the Son of Man in the heavens -

Jesus to St. Faustina -

Write this: Before I come as the just Judge, I am coming first as the King of Mercy. Before the day of justice arrives, there will be given to people a sign in the heavens of this sort: All light in the heavens will be extinguished, and there will be great darkness over the whole earth. Then the sign of the cross will be seen in the sky, and from the openings where the hands and the feet of the Savior were nailed will come forth great lights which will light up the earth for a period of time. This will take place shortly before the last day (Diary, 83).
Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich:

The Dolorous Passion of Jesus Christ - catholicplanet.com/ebooks/Dolorous-Passion.pdf
(Roman Catholic Imprimatur & Nihil Obstat)

CHAPTER I.
Jesus in the Garden of Olives.

When Jesus left the supper-room with the eleven Apostles, after the institution of the Adorable Sacrament of the Altar, his soul was deeply oppressed and his sorrow on the increase. He led the eleven, by an unfrequented path, to the Valley of Josaphat. As they left the house, I saw the moon, which was not yet quite at the full, rising in front of the mountain.

Our Divine Lord; as he wandered with his Apostles about the valley, told them that here he should one day return to judge the world, but not in a state of poverty and humiliation, as he then was, and that men would tremble with fear, and cry: ‘Mountains, fall upon us!’

p.s. There is much in revelations that must happen and as I said I am still learning in this area, however, I am alarmed by many who claim they would follow someone if they claimed to be Jesus and performed miracles, as this is exactly what Christ warns us of, He will come again, but not like He previously did.

I hope this has helped

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh

 

[josh987654321]

p.s. There is much in revelations that must happen and as I said I am still learning in this area, however, I am alarmed by many who claim they would follow someone if they claimed to be Jesus and performed miracles, as this is exactly what Christ warns us of, He will come again, but not like He previously did.

As a matter of fact, such a character I believe will likely be the anti Christ and I believe under him will lie our severe persecution.

I hope this has helped

God Bless

Josh

 

[mikekle]

I think there is a lot of confusion and errors being spread when it comes to Jesus second coming and I am still learning in this area myself (trying to wade very carefully through much of the garbage out there, mainly by sticking to reliable sources), here are the things I am aware of -

The sign of the Son of Man in the heavens -

Jesus to St. Faustina -

Write this: Before I come as the just Judge, I am coming first as the King of Mercy. Before the day of justice arrives, there will be given to people a sign in the heavens of this sort: All light in the heavens will be extinguished, and there will be great darkness over the whole earth. Then the sign of the cross will be seen in the sky, and from the openings where the hands and the feet of the Savior were nailed will come forth great lights which will light up the earth for a period of time. This will take place shortly before the last day (Diary, 83).

p.s. There is much in revelations that must happen and as I said I am still learning in this area, however, I am alarmed by many who claim they would follow someone if they claimed to be Jesus and performed miracles, as this is exactly what Christ warns us of, He will come again, but not like He previously did.

I hope this has helped

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh

Great post!! Many will be fooled, that we can be sure of.

 

[Zoltan_Cobalt]

I was listening to a preacher on tv before work this morning, they were talking about the second coming and how when Jesus touches down on the Mountain, majority of the nations in the world will try to declare war on him.

Why would they do this? Will they not recognize him as Christ or will it be due to Jesus ‘upsetting’ all they have built, by kind of throwing a wrench into the whole system of Govt, people will probably not listen to Govts once this happens, Im sure there will be alot of initial panic about whats going on, etc etc.

I know the US (or any nation really), is not specifically mentioned, but since we are a christian nation, it seems to me, the US, UK, probably Mexico, Canada, definitely Russia, would definitely recognize him when he comes back, but maybe Im wrong?

When Jesus comes again there will be no point in declaring war against Him.

It will be the end of the World…the Rapture.

 

[Bob_Crowley]

When Christ returns, there won’t be any nations. The universe will disappear, and everything in it.

It’s going to be a bit hard to make war when you haven’t got anything to make war with.

2 Peter 3:10-11

The Day of the Lord

10But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. 11Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,…

 

[Crusaderbear]

When do the nations of our world NOT try to make war? Sorrowfully, as long as there is one person left with a differing opinion, there will be conflict.

 

[mikekle]

When Christ returns, there won’t be any nations. The universe will disappear, and everything in it.

It’s going to be a bit hard to make war when you haven’t got anything to make war with.

2 Peter 3:10-11

This doesnt allow any time for all the dead to walk the earth again though, as the bible said would happen.

Im not sure the entire world will be destroyed or done away with in the manner some are suggesting the very minute Jesus returns, I know some very crazy things are going to happen (like the sky rolling up similar to a scroll), but I dont think this means everything as we know will instantly be gone.

 

[Bob_Crowley]

As it is the universe adds up to nothing - sum zero energy universe. It’s a big fat zero - a stage prop put there for the human story.

Or as my old pastor said, “Would you give a race like the human race a really solid universe?”, with all it’s murders, wars, rapes, abortions, betrayals, cruelties, wastefulness etc. etc.

Or would you keep the really solid world for those who show they’re worth the trouble?

Links refer.

astrosociety.org/publications/a-universe-from-nothing/

livescience.com/33129-total-energy-universe-zero.html

rosarubicondior.blogspot.com.au/2013/02/universe-is-zero-sum-game.html

When Christ comes back, who made it all, He’s not going to stuff around maintaining a bit of “nothing”. He’ll start afresh, and the very first thing he’ll do is get rid of the stage prop.

 

[Kal2012]

People who know Jesus will know that it’s Jesus. Jesus knows the voice of his sheep and vice versa.

As much as we try to say that the West is “Christian”, in a lot of cases, a better term would be “culturally Christian”.

The US is arguably more religious than Europe, but even these days - it depends whether a person is religious or not.

Keep in mind that unless you are watching EWTN, the majority of televangelists are Protestant and have very different ideas about the 2nd coming of Christ than Catholics do.

I really don’t know what’s going to happen when Jesus comes back and that’s okay.

Will we even be here when Jesus comes back? Why does it matter?

Just logically, it’s kind of hard to have a final great battle between good and evil (with Jesus leading the good and winning) if nobody decides to fight Jesus.

 

[mikekle]

I really don’t know what’s going to happen when Jesus comes back and that’s okay.

Will we even be here when Jesus comes back? Why does it matter?

Just logically, it’s kind of hard to have a final great battle between good and evil (with Jesus leading the good and winning) if nobody decides to fight Jesus.

I think the bible gives a great description of how it will be, basically God will come from the sky and descend to the top of Mount Olivet, the whole world will see it, and it will be of such magnitude it really cant be mistaken for anything else, although Im sure the media and many others will try to say it is something else.

There will be plenty of people on both sides for the final battle, remember ALL the people that have ever lived, will suddenly be walking around on the earth again, in new bodies, even the ones who are in hell will be back, but keep in mind, this FINAL battle will take place LONG after the second coming, when Jesus returns, we still have to go thru the1000 yr reign, also the period afterwards, where Satan will be released again for a short time.