Willingness to give people a second chance

[djames99]

So if your son comes to your store just out of jail and drug rehab, slate clean and says, “dad, can you give me some work so I can pay for Jenny’s formula milk”, your going to say “no thanks, no second chances here”

That’s well,…impressive. But at least no one can charge you with a double standards.

I couldn’t say it, at least and hold to the Catholic religion.

 

[djames99]

The poster claims to be working the canadian justice system and offers what I consider a skimmed over impression of the canadian system. My experience is the canadian system, attended many trials but only municipal and watched the proceedings closely. The rest I can cite out of newspapers and the experience of the unfortunates. Sister Prejean’s findings are all I know of the US system. However, I give it an “A” mark in the “zealous defense” imperative, good going guys. . I give you people a commendation on founding your constitution with the intent of sloughing off the repugnant unfair British system of justice geared for the classes.

But each needs to get on track again. All these in my opinion Bill are symptomatic of a falling out of a collective conscience and what remains is … intolerance. The Magisterium was contacted by nations often for it’s opinion, but not so much now,and when it does give an opinion, it’s taken as a novelty and confined to fodder for debates. I see in the Institution of Family a greater tolerance that you would think would be expressed similarly in society but does not.

 

[CopticChristian]

Come on man, you know what I mean. Plus I said ‘known sociopath’. I’m interested in knowing how disfuctional you view those who are in AA relative to society at large, that’s all.

God Bless,
Bill

Bill,

The world is dysfunctional as you know because of Adam…that being said…the people in AA are difficult to dialogue with. They speak a different language and are stuck in a paradigm. I find it difficult to make sense or progress with them.

Normies?
Allergy to Alcohol?
My Sobriety is safe?
Spiritual program?
Sponsor, Sponsee, Grand Sponsor, Great Grand Sponsor…sounds like Amway
Us and them

None of it makes any sense…I find it tantamount to talking Christianity with a Fundamentalist…Faith…means something entirely different to them than to me…Born Again, Baptized in the Spirit, etc…

It is just a different language, I can speak it, it makes no sense and I find it boring…

 

[Bill_7154]

Bill,

The world is dysfunctional as you know because of Adam…that being said…the people in AA are difficult to dialogue with. They speak a different language and are stuck in a paradigm. I find it difficult to make sense or progress with them.

Normies?
Allergy to Alcohol?
My Sobriety is safe?
Spiritual program?
Sponsor, Sponsee, Grand Sponsor, Great Grand Sponsor…sounds like Amway
Us and them

None of it makes any sense…I find it tantamount to talking Christianity with a Fundamentalist…Faith…means something entirely different to them than to me…Born Again, Baptized in the Spirit, etc…

It is just a different language, I can speak it, it makes no sense and I find it boring…

In my experience these things don’t come up at work very often, just like religion doesn’t come up very often and many people feel the exact same way about religion/other people’s religion/lack of religion.

 

[littlechicken]

If I were in a position to hire, I do believe I would give one of these ex-convicts a chance.
I found out recently that there is a program in my community that helps former prisoners find work. It is known up front, to the employer, and employees, that the person is a former convict. I don’t know how well that is working out, but will try to learn all I can on it. (a friend of a friend of a friend is how I learned of this program). And post what I learn.
Does your community not offer a program like this?
I am not talking about just counseling, reform programs, etc,… I am talking about actually helping the person become gainfully employeed. The people running the program are actually in collaboration with different employers to do this.
In some small way, I know how these prisoners feel. Though I am not a criminal in the legal sense, I certainly have been in the moral sense, and I allowed people’s attitudes about my past drive me out of Church. And whereas I don’t expect to be ‘embraced’ and lovingly welcomed, I didn’t expect to actually be lunged at physically either.
Please note that I said I allowed their attitude to have that effect on me, thus I don’t blame them really, but my response to them.
Please update if you have found a reasonable solution to this problem.
It is sad that we preach reform, but we don’t actually carry through in action.
Our prison system is based more on punishment than reform and rehabilitation.

littlechicken