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elsi
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Why is Wisdom referred to as “she” in the Douay bibles? Yet, in the revised bibles, “it” is used when referring to Wisdom.
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MaggieOH
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Since I do not know which particular book you are referring to, it is hard to give an answer. However, I have in front of me the Jerusalem Bible and I am looking at the first chapter of the Book of Wisdom. This translation also uses “she”:
“Wisdom is a spirit, a friend to man, though she will no pardon the words of a blasphemer” (Wisdom 1:6)
Maggie
“Wisdom is a spirit, a friend to man, though she will no pardon the words of a blasphemer” (Wisdom 1:6)
Maggie
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Church_Militant
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I don’t think it’s done that way in all places w/in scripture and I know that “she” is portrayed as a beautiful and desirable woman that all us dorky guys should court…but alas, how few of us seek her.
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MaggieOH
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Church Militant:
“I loved her more than health or beauty,
preferred her to the light,
since her radiance never sleeps.”
“For she is an inexhaustible treasure to men,
and those who acquire it win God’s friendship,
commended as they are by the benefits of her teaching.”
“For within her is a spirit intelligent, holy,
unique, manifold, subtle,
active, incisive, unsullied,
lucid, invulnerable, benevolent,
sharp, irresistible, beneficent,
loving to man, steadfast, dependable,
unperturbed, almighty, all-surveying,
penetrating all intelligent, pure
and most subtle spirits
for Wisdom is quicker to move than any motion;
she is so pure, she pervades and permeates all things” (Wis 7:22-24)
All I can say is wow what a description of the Holy Spirit or at least of the gift of the Holy Spirit - Grace.
Maggie
Wisdom is called She throughout the Book of Wisdom. I gave the first available verse and since then I have turned to chapters 6 and 7 and sure enough Wisdom is described as she. There is a really lovely description in Chapter 7:
“I loved her more than health or beauty,
preferred her to the light,
since her radiance never sleeps.”
“For she is an inexhaustible treasure to men,
and those who acquire it win God’s friendship,
commended as they are by the benefits of her teaching.”
“For within her is a spirit intelligent, holy,
unique, manifold, subtle,
active, incisive, unsullied,
lucid, invulnerable, benevolent,
sharp, irresistible, beneficent,
loving to man, steadfast, dependable,
unperturbed, almighty, all-surveying,
penetrating all intelligent, pure
and most subtle spirits
for Wisdom is quicker to move than any motion;
she is so pure, she pervades and permeates all things” (Wis 7:22-24)
All I can say is wow what a description of the Holy Spirit or at least of the gift of the Holy Spirit - Grace.
Maggie
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MaggieOH
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I must continue to quote from chapter 7 in the Book of Wisdom. This is the part that has me quite excited:
"She is the breath of the power of God,
pure emanation of the glory of the Almighty;
hence nothing impure can find a way into her,
She is a reflection of the Eternal Light,
**untarnished mirror of God’s active power,
image of his goodness,
**Although alone she can do all,
herself unchanging, she makes all things new.
In each generation she passes into holy souls,
she makes them friends of God and prophets;
for God loves only the man who lives with Wisdom.
She is indeed more splendid than the sun,
she outshines all the constellations;
compared with light she takes first place,
for light must yield to night,
**but over Wisdom even can never triumph.
She deploys her strength from one end of the earth to the other, ordering all things for good.
(Wisdom 7:25-8:1)
**This is absolutely breathtaking to see these words written about Wisdom. It is breath taking because it tells me that Wisdom is the Holy Spirit who comes to dwell within us, Those words:
“She is a breath of the power of God, pure emanation of the glory of the Almighty”
are words that make you want to sit up and take notice and discover something about God.
Maggie
"She is the breath of the power of God,
pure emanation of the glory of the Almighty;
hence nothing impure can find a way into her,
She is a reflection of the Eternal Light,
**untarnished mirror of God’s active power,
image of his goodness,
**Although alone she can do all,
herself unchanging, she makes all things new.
In each generation she passes into holy souls,
she makes them friends of God and prophets;
for God loves only the man who lives with Wisdom.
She is indeed more splendid than the sun,
she outshines all the constellations;
compared with light she takes first place,
for light must yield to night,
**but over Wisdom even can never triumph.
She deploys her strength from one end of the earth to the other, ordering all things for good.
(Wisdom 7:25-8:1)
**This is absolutely breathtaking to see these words written about Wisdom. It is breath taking because it tells me that Wisdom is the Holy Spirit who comes to dwell within us, Those words:
“She is a breath of the power of God, pure emanation of the glory of the Almighty”
are words that make you want to sit up and take notice and discover something about God.
Maggie
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MaggieOH
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Sorry, I just have to post some more things from the Book of Wisdom (did I tell you that I love to read this Book?)
“What man indeed can know the intention of God?
Who can divine the will of the Lord?
The reasonings of mortals are unsure
and our intentions unstable;
for a perishable body presses down the soul,
and this tent of clay weighs down the teeming mind
It is hard enough for us to work out what is on the earth,
laborious to know what lies within our reach;
who then can discover what is in the heavens?
As for your intention, who could have learnt it, had you not granted Wisdom
**and sent your HOLY SPIRIT from above
**Thus have the paths of those on earth been straightened
and men been taught what pleases you,
and saved by Wisdom.” (Wisdom 9:13-18)
Is it any wonder I love to read about Wisdom. As you can see the verse that I have selected speak about Wisdom as though she is either the Holy Spirit or grace.
MaggieOH
“What man indeed can know the intention of God?
Who can divine the will of the Lord?
The reasonings of mortals are unsure
and our intentions unstable;
for a perishable body presses down the soul,
and this tent of clay weighs down the teeming mind
It is hard enough for us to work out what is on the earth,
laborious to know what lies within our reach;
who then can discover what is in the heavens?
As for your intention, who could have learnt it, had you not granted Wisdom
**and sent your HOLY SPIRIT from above
**Thus have the paths of those on earth been straightened
and men been taught what pleases you,
and saved by Wisdom.” (Wisdom 9:13-18)
Is it any wonder I love to read about Wisdom. As you can see the verse that I have selected speak about Wisdom as though she is either the Holy Spirit or grace.
MaggieOH
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stillsmallvoice
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Hi all!
Please allow me to solve the mystery. “Wisdom” in the Tanakh (what we call what Christians call the “Old Testament”) is referred to as she (as, ferinstance, in the Book of Proverbs) because the (original) Hebrew word khokhma is feminine (Hebrew is like Spanish, French, Italian, etc. in that all nouns are either masculine or feminine).
Howzat?
Be well!
ssv
Please allow me to solve the mystery. “Wisdom” in the Tanakh (what we call what Christians call the “Old Testament”) is referred to as she (as, ferinstance, in the Book of Proverbs) because the (original) Hebrew word khokhma is feminine (Hebrew is like Spanish, French, Italian, etc. in that all nouns are either masculine or feminine).
Howzat?
Be well!
ssv
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puzzleannie
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Wisdom is glorious and never fadeth away, and is easily seen by them that love her, and is found by them that seek her. She preventeth them that covet her, so that she first sheweth herself unto them. Wisdom 6:13-14, Douay-Rheims Challoner (1941 Imprimatur by Cardinal Spellmen, reprinted in 2002 by Loreto Pub, New Hampshire)
In the book of Wisdom, this attribute is qualified as feminine because that is how the author was divinely inspired to write it. You will have no problem with this unless you confuse “masculine and feminine” with “male and female”.
In the book of Wisdom, this attribute is qualified as feminine because that is how the author was divinely inspired to write it. You will have no problem with this unless you confuse “masculine and feminine” with “male and female”.
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BibleReader
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Pope John-Paul II gave a homily in which He said that the Bible’s “Wisdom,” “Sophia,” = Christ."
I agree.
But how could “Christ” be symbolized by a female thing?
In the Bible, the Woman Type and all of its many analogs, or forms, = “mankind in need of salvation.”
So, women in the Bible = US!
Christ CAME to us in our form.
Therefore, a female symbol is an appropriate symbol for Christ.
For example, look at Judges 19: The Levite’s concubine = “Christ.”
I agree.
But how could “Christ” be symbolized by a female thing?
In the Bible, the Woman Type and all of its many analogs, or forms, = “mankind in need of salvation.”
So, women in the Bible = US!
Christ CAME to us in our form.
Therefore, a female symbol is an appropriate symbol for Christ.
For example, look at Judges 19: The Levite’s concubine = “Christ.”
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Steven_Merten
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I agree that “Wisdom” is referring to Jesus.
**NAB WIS 9:4 **
**Give me Wisdom, the attendant at your throne, **and reject me not from among your children; **NAB COL 2:2 **
I wish their hearts to be strengthened and themselves to be closely united in love, enriched with full assurance by their knowledge of the mystery of God–namely **Christ–in whom every treasure of wisdom and knowledge is hidden. ****NAB WIS 7:7 **
Therefore I prayed, and prudence was given me; I pleaded, and the spirit of Wisdom came to me. (SIR 37:15) **NAB WIS 9:9 **
**Now with you is Wisdom, who knows your works and was present when you made the world; Who understands what is pleasing in your eyes and what is conformable with your commands. Send her forth from your holy heavens and from your glorious throne dispatch her That she may be with me and work with me, that I may know what is your pleasure. For she knows and understands all things, and will guide me discreetly in my affairs and safeguard me by her glory; Thus my deeds will be acceptable, and I shall judge your people justly and be worthy of my father’s throne. For what man knows God’s counsel, or who can conceive what the LORD intends? **For the deliberations of mortals are timid, and unsure are our plans. For the corruptible body burdens the soul and the earthen shelter weighs down the mind that has many concerns. And **scarce do we guess the things on earth, and what is within our grasp we find with difficulty; but when things are in heaven, who can search them out? Or who ever knew your counsel, except you had given Wisdom and sent your holy spirit from on high? **
**NAB JOH 3:12 **
Does not Wisdom call, and Understanding raise her voice? On the top of the heights along the road, at the crossroads she takes her stand; By the gates at the approaches of the city, in the entryways she cries aloud: "To you, O men, I call; my appeal is to the children of men. You simple ones, gain resource, you fools, gain sense. "Give heed! for noble things I speak; honesty opens my lips. Yes, the truth my mouth recounts, but the wickedness my lips abhor. Sincere are all the words of my mouth, no one of them is wily or crooked; All of them are plain to the man of intelligence, and right to those who attain knowledge. Receive my instruction in preference to silver, and knowledge rather than choice gold. (For Wisdom is better than corals, and no choice possessions can compare with her.) "I, Wisdom, dwell with experience, and judicious knowledge I attain. (The fear of the LORD is to hate evil) Pride, arrogance, the evil way, and the perverse mouth I hate. Mine are counsel and advice; Mine is strength; I am understanding. By me kings reign, and lawgivers establish justice; By me princes govern, and nobles; all the rulers of earth.** "Those who love me I also love, and those who seek me find me. With me are riches and honor, enduring wealth and prosperity. My fruit is better than gold, yes, than pure gold, and my revenue than choice silver. On the way of duty I walk, along the paths of justice, Granting wealth to those who love me, and filling their treasuries. "The LORD begot me, the first-born of his ways, the forerunner of his prodigies of long ago; From of old I was poured forth, at the first, before the earth.** When there were no depths I was brought forth, when there were no fountains or springs of water; Before the mountains were settled into place, before the hills, I was brought forth; While as yet the earth and the fields were not made, nor the first clods of the world. "When he established the heavens I was there, when he marked out the vault over the face of the deep; When he made firm the skies above, when he fixed fast the foundations of the earth; When he set for the sea its limit, so that the waters should not transgress his command; **Then was I beside him as his craftsman, and I was his delight day by day, Playing before him all the while, playing on the surface of his earth; and I found delight in the sons of men. “So now, O children, listen to me; instruction and wisdom do not reject! Happy the man who obeys me, and happy those who keep my ways, Happy the man watching daily at my gates, waiting at my doorposts; For he who finds me finds life, and wins favor from the LORD; But he who misses me harms himself; all who hate me love death.” **
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Peace in Christ,
Steven Merten
www.ILOVEYOUGOD.com
**NAB WIS 9:4 **
**Give me Wisdom, the attendant at your throne, **and reject me not from among your children; **NAB COL 2:2 **
I wish their hearts to be strengthened and themselves to be closely united in love, enriched with full assurance by their knowledge of the mystery of God–namely **Christ–in whom every treasure of wisdom and knowledge is hidden. ****NAB WIS 7:7 **
Therefore I prayed, and prudence was given me; I pleaded, and the spirit of Wisdom came to me. (SIR 37:15) **NAB WIS 9:9 **
**Now with you is Wisdom, who knows your works and was present when you made the world; Who understands what is pleasing in your eyes and what is conformable with your commands. Send her forth from your holy heavens and from your glorious throne dispatch her That she may be with me and work with me, that I may know what is your pleasure. For she knows and understands all things, and will guide me discreetly in my affairs and safeguard me by her glory; Thus my deeds will be acceptable, and I shall judge your people justly and be worthy of my father’s throne. For what man knows God’s counsel, or who can conceive what the LORD intends? **For the deliberations of mortals are timid, and unsure are our plans. For the corruptible body burdens the soul and the earthen shelter weighs down the mind that has many concerns. And **scarce do we guess the things on earth, and what is within our grasp we find with difficulty; but when things are in heaven, who can search them out? Or who ever knew your counsel, except you had given Wisdom and sent your holy spirit from on high? **
**NAB JOH 3:12 **
“If you do not believe when I tell you about earthly things, how are you to believe when I tell you about those of heaven? No one has gone up to heaven except the One who came down from there–the Son of Man (who is in heaven).”
**NAB PRO 8 **Does not Wisdom call, and Understanding raise her voice? On the top of the heights along the road, at the crossroads she takes her stand; By the gates at the approaches of the city, in the entryways she cries aloud: "To you, O men, I call; my appeal is to the children of men. You simple ones, gain resource, you fools, gain sense. "Give heed! for noble things I speak; honesty opens my lips. Yes, the truth my mouth recounts, but the wickedness my lips abhor. Sincere are all the words of my mouth, no one of them is wily or crooked; All of them are plain to the man of intelligence, and right to those who attain knowledge. Receive my instruction in preference to silver, and knowledge rather than choice gold. (For Wisdom is better than corals, and no choice possessions can compare with her.) "I, Wisdom, dwell with experience, and judicious knowledge I attain. (The fear of the LORD is to hate evil) Pride, arrogance, the evil way, and the perverse mouth I hate. Mine are counsel and advice; Mine is strength; I am understanding. By me kings reign, and lawgivers establish justice; By me princes govern, and nobles; all the rulers of earth.** "Those who love me I also love, and those who seek me find me. With me are riches and honor, enduring wealth and prosperity. My fruit is better than gold, yes, than pure gold, and my revenue than choice silver. On the way of duty I walk, along the paths of justice, Granting wealth to those who love me, and filling their treasuries. "The LORD begot me, the first-born of his ways, the forerunner of his prodigies of long ago; From of old I was poured forth, at the first, before the earth.** When there were no depths I was brought forth, when there were no fountains or springs of water; Before the mountains were settled into place, before the hills, I was brought forth; While as yet the earth and the fields were not made, nor the first clods of the world. "When he established the heavens I was there, when he marked out the vault over the face of the deep; When he made firm the skies above, when he fixed fast the foundations of the earth; When he set for the sea its limit, so that the waters should not transgress his command; **Then was I beside him as his craftsman, and I was his delight day by day, Playing before him all the while, playing on the surface of his earth; and I found delight in the sons of men. “So now, O children, listen to me; instruction and wisdom do not reject! Happy the man who obeys me, and happy those who keep my ways, Happy the man watching daily at my gates, waiting at my doorposts; For he who finds me finds life, and wins favor from the LORD; But he who misses me harms himself; all who hate me love death.” **
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Peace in Christ,
Steven Merten
www.ILOVEYOUGOD.com
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Steven_Merten
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**NAB WIS 10:13 **
**She did not abandon the just man when he was sold but delivered him from sin. **(WIS 6:17–JOH 14:21) (WIS 9:6) (ISA 11:2) (PRO 8:35)
**NAB PRO 8:22 Wisdom **
**“The LORD begot me, the firstborn of his ways, the forerunner of his prodigies of long ago; From of old I was poured forth, at the first, before the earth.” **
**NAB COL 1:17 **
He is before all else that is. In him everything continues in being. It is he who is head of the body, the church;** he who is the beginning, the first-born of the dead,** so that primacy may be his in everything.
**NAB WIS 8:17 **
That there is immortality in kinship with Wisdom.
**NAB WIS 10:20 **
Therefore the just despoiled the wicked; and they sang, O LORD, your holy name and praised in unison your conquering hand– Because Wisdom opened the mouths of the dumb, and gave ready speech to infants.
**NAB MAT 21:15 **
"Hosanna to the Son of David!" Do you hear what they are saying?" they asked him. Jesus said to them, “Of course I do! Did you never read this: 'From the speech of infants and children you have framed a hymn of praise’?”
**NAB MAT 9:32 **
As they were leaving, suddenly some people brought him a mute who was possessed by a demon. Once the demon was expelled the mute began to speak, to the great surprise of the crowds. “Nothing like this has ever been seen in Israel!” they exclaimed.
**NAB **WIS 7:24
For Wisdom is mobile beyond all things by reason of her purity. For she is an aura of the might of God and a pure effusion of the glory of the Almighty; therefore nought that is sullied enters into her. For she is the refulgence of eternal light, the spotless mirror of the power of God, the image of his goodness. And she, who is one, can do all things, and renews everything while herself perduring; And passing into holy souls from age to age, she produces friends of God and prophets. For there is nought God loves, be it not one who dwells with Wisdom. For she is fairer than the sun and surpasses every constellation of the stars. Compared to light, she takes precedence; for that, indeed, night supplants, but wickedness prevails not over Wisdom.
Peace in Christ,
Steven Merten
www.ILOVEYOUGOD.com
**She did not abandon the just man when he was sold but delivered him from sin. **(WIS 6:17–JOH 14:21) (WIS 9:6) (ISA 11:2) (PRO 8:35)
**NAB PRO 8:22 Wisdom **
**“The LORD begot me, the firstborn of his ways, the forerunner of his prodigies of long ago; From of old I was poured forth, at the first, before the earth.” **
**NAB COL 1:17 **
He is before all else that is. In him everything continues in being. It is he who is head of the body, the church;** he who is the beginning, the first-born of the dead,** so that primacy may be his in everything.
**NAB WIS 8:17 **
That there is immortality in kinship with Wisdom.
**NAB WIS 10:20 **
Therefore the just despoiled the wicked; and they sang, O LORD, your holy name and praised in unison your conquering hand– Because Wisdom opened the mouths of the dumb, and gave ready speech to infants.
**NAB MAT 21:15 **
"Hosanna to the Son of David!" Do you hear what they are saying?" they asked him. Jesus said to them, “Of course I do! Did you never read this: 'From the speech of infants and children you have framed a hymn of praise’?”
**NAB MAT 9:32 **
As they were leaving, suddenly some people brought him a mute who was possessed by a demon. Once the demon was expelled the mute began to speak, to the great surprise of the crowds. “Nothing like this has ever been seen in Israel!” they exclaimed.
**NAB **WIS 7:24
For Wisdom is mobile beyond all things by reason of her purity. For she is an aura of the might of God and a pure effusion of the glory of the Almighty; therefore nought that is sullied enters into her. For she is the refulgence of eternal light, the spotless mirror of the power of God, the image of his goodness. And she, who is one, can do all things, and renews everything while herself perduring; And passing into holy souls from age to age, she produces friends of God and prophets. For there is nought God loves, be it not one who dwells with Wisdom. For she is fairer than the sun and surpasses every constellation of the stars. Compared to light, she takes precedence; for that, indeed, night supplants, but wickedness prevails not over Wisdom.
Peace in Christ,
Steven Merten
www.ILOVEYOUGOD.com
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MaggieOH
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I love the Wisdom literature. There is just something so beautiful about it.
Thanks SSV for your valuable (name removed by moderator)ut and explaining this point to us.
I just love the way that the Wisdom literature gives us such a broad view of God, of grace, of the Holy Spirit.
Maggie
Thanks SSV for your valuable (name removed by moderator)ut and explaining this point to us.
I just love the way that the Wisdom literature gives us such a broad view of God, of grace, of the Holy Spirit.
Maggie
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MaggieOH
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**Sirach: 4: 11-22
"**Wisdom brings up her own sons,
and cares for those who seek her.
Whoever loves her loves life.
those who wait on her early will be filled with happiness.
Whoever holds her close will inherit honour,
and wherever he walks the Lord will bless him.
Those who serve her minister to the Holy One,
and the Lord loves those who love her.
Whoever obeys her judges aright,
and whoever pays attention to her dwells secure.
**If he trusts himself to her he will inherit her,
and his descendants will remain in possession of her;
**for though she takes him at first through winding ways,
bringing fear and faintness on him,
plaguing him with her discipline until she can trust him,
and testing him with her ordeals,
in the end she will lead him back to the straight road,
and reveal her secrets to him.
If he wanders away she will abandon him,
and hand him over to his fate.
"**Wisdom brings up her own sons,
and cares for those who seek her.
Whoever loves her loves life.
those who wait on her early will be filled with happiness.
Whoever holds her close will inherit honour,
and wherever he walks the Lord will bless him.
Those who serve her minister to the Holy One,
and the Lord loves those who love her.
Whoever obeys her judges aright,
and whoever pays attention to her dwells secure.
**If he trusts himself to her he will inherit her,
and his descendants will remain in possession of her;
**for though she takes him at first through winding ways,
bringing fear and faintness on him,
plaguing him with her discipline until she can trust him,
and testing him with her ordeals,
in the end she will lead him back to the straight road,
and reveal her secrets to him.
If he wanders away she will abandon him,
and hand him over to his fate.
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puzzleannie
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your headline is misleading, see extensive NAB quotes above, Wisdom is personified as feminine in wisdom literature, not as female. Which “revised bibles” are you referring to? I have hear the 1966 Jerusalem bible, the New Jerusalem bible, the RXV Ignatius, the NRSV Catholic Youth Bible, the NKJV and they all retain the feminine pronoun where it exists in the book of Wisdom.
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mtr01
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Peace everyone!
This thread is getting interesting (well at least to me). I have to agree with Steven and Bible Reader in that I tended to think of “Wisdom” in the Wisdom Literature as Christ. To me, it seemed like the first recognition that what was previously thought of as an attribute of God was actually one of the persons of God. I tend to think of it as equivalent to Jesus being the “Word” of God.
That said, Maggie has provided some compelling arguments for “wisdom” being a personification of the Holy Spirit. It would certainly be interesting to see what others here think about it. Do you think what we are reading is something akin to doctrinal development, where perhaps there was still some confusion between the Son and the Holy Spirit? Is there perhaps aspects of “Wisdom” in each that were being written about (as the Holy Spirit has also been referred to as the “Spirit of Wisdom”)?
This thread is getting interesting (well at least to me). I have to agree with Steven and Bible Reader in that I tended to think of “Wisdom” in the Wisdom Literature as Christ. To me, it seemed like the first recognition that what was previously thought of as an attribute of God was actually one of the persons of God. I tend to think of it as equivalent to Jesus being the “Word” of God.
That said, Maggie has provided some compelling arguments for “wisdom” being a personification of the Holy Spirit. It would certainly be interesting to see what others here think about it. Do you think what we are reading is something akin to doctrinal development, where perhaps there was still some confusion between the Son and the Holy Spirit? Is there perhaps aspects of “Wisdom” in each that were being written about (as the Holy Spirit has also been referred to as the “Spirit of Wisdom”)?
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BibleReader
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Well, this is from yesterday’s New Testament reading, from 1 Corinthians 1: “It is due to him that you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God,…” It’s hard to find something more straightforward.
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Prometheum_x
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Is it necessary for it to be either/or, or can it be both/and?
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mtr01
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I don’t disagree with you at all, I personally think that Wisdom refers to Christ. That being said, the verse you cite is a quote from Paul. My question was referring to the Wisdom literature itself, and as to whether or not some of the descriptions could in fact be seen as descriptions of the Holy Spirit. That was the impetus for my pondering about possible incomplete “doctrinal development”.
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Deacon_Ed
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Both the Greek and Hebrew words for wisdom are feminine. In the Old Testament the term “wisdom” generally referred to the Holy Spirit while, in the New Testament, the word generally refers to Jesus who is the Christ.
Deacon Ed
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BibleReader
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Deacon Ed:
Like you, I wanted Wisdom to be the Holy Spirit. It makes so much sense. But close examination of Scripture reveals that Wisdom is Christ.
On World Youth Day, Deacon, the Pope argued that Wisdom in the Book of Proverbs is also Christ.
Like you, I wanted Wisdom to be the Holy Spirit. It makes so much sense. But close examination of Scripture reveals that Wisdom is Christ.
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