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I’ve read that the recounting of the woman caught in adultery is something that was added to the Gospel later on. Do you think that is true?
The story is mentioned throughout Church history, earliest with Papias and “the woman accused of many sins.”I’ve read that the recounting of the woman caught in adultery is something that was added to the Gospel later on. Do you think that is true?
Where’d you hear it and why’d they say it?I’ve read that the recounting of the woman caught in adultery is something that was added to the Gospel later on. Do you think that is true?
I personally think it’s possible. Here’s how the relevant section in John (7:37-52; 8:12-20) would look like without the passage:I’ve read that the recounting of the woman caught in adultery is something that was added to the Gospel later on. Do you think that is true?
You’re welcome.Wow! So varied and complex! A very complete answer. Thank you Patrick. You must have spent a lot of time on this question. I thank you.
Patrick, very interesting…what do you think of this quotation?Not all the manuscripts that do contain the passage place it in the traditional position, between 7:52 and 8:12. Manuscripts belonging to the Family 1 group of minuscules (there it is - manuscripts in lower-case Greek letters!), for example, contain it at the end of the gospel (along with a slightly-lengthy editorial comment), while leaving a long space between 7:52 and 8:12, where the passage would have been. In fact, the pericope is known to have been placed in between John 7:36-37, 7:44-45, 8:12-13, 8:14a-14b, 8:20-21, or even Luke 21:38-39 or after Luke 24:53 in some manuscripts. Also, not every manuscript which have it contains every bit of the text: minuscule 759 for one contains John 7:53-8:2 but not 8:3-11.
Let’s move away from the manuscripts and go to the Fathers. As dronald mentioned, the 2nd century writer Papias, as referenced by the 4th-century historian Eusebius in Church History 3.39, referred to a story “of a woman, who was accused of many sins before the Lord, which is contained in the Gospel according to the Hebrews.” This is usually taken as referring to an early version of the story we now have, showing that it already existed in some form by the 2nd century. Note that Eusebius traces this story, not from John, but from an elusive ‘Gospel according to the Hebrews’. What sins the woman was said to have committed are also were never specified - only that she was “accused of many sins.”
A Syriac work known as Didascalia Apostolorum (2.24) from the 3rd century, meanwhile, tells a story of a sinful woman forgiven by Jesus which is similar to our pericope. Note that this reference does not also indicate John’s gospel as its source and never specifies the woman’s supposed sin.
Do as he also did with her that had sinned, whom the elders set before him, and leaving the judgment in his hands, departed. But he, the searcher of hearts, asked her and said to her, “Have the elders condemned you, my daughter?” She says to him, “No, Lord.” And he said to her, “Go your way: neither do I condemn you.”
References to the pericope in its present form increase from the 4th century onward. The interesting thing about it is, most of those who refer to the passage are from the West. St. Ambrose (c. 340-397) and his protege St. Augustine (354-430) are two of the main writers who testify to the existence of this pericope in John. Ambrose refers to this pericope a number of times, while Augustine went so far as to claim that the passage may have been improperly excluded by “certain persons of little faith, or rather enemies of the true faith” in order to avoid the impression that Jesus had condoned adultery:
Certain persons of little faith, or rather enemies of the true faith, fearing, I suppose, lest their wives should be given impunity in sinning, removed from their manuscripts the Lord’s act of forgiveness toward the adulteress, as if he who had said, “Sin no more,” had granted permission to sin.
The only writer from the East who refers to this passage before the 12th century is the Alexandrian Didymus the Blind (ca. 313- 398), who says in his Commentary on Ecclesiastes:
We find, therefore, in certain gospels: A woman, it says, was condemned by the Jews for a sin and was being sent to be stoned in the place where that was customary to happen. The Savior, it says, when he saw her and observed that they were ready to stone her, said to those who were about to cast stones, “He who has not sinned, let him take a stone and cast it. If anyone is conscious in himself not to have sinned, let him take up a stone and smite her.” And no one dared. Since they knew in themselves and perceived that they themselves were guilty in some things, they did not dare to strike her.
Again, note the fact that Didymus still does not specify which gospel this story is to be found (only noting that it is found “in certain gospels,” i.e. in certain manuscripts) nor the woman’s sin.
St. Jerome (who did for a time study under Didymus) reports that “the story of the adulterous woman who was accused before the Lord” was to be found in its usual place “in many manuscripts, both Greek and Latin” in Rome and the Latin West in the late 4th century. Another person who studied under Didymus, Tyrannius Rufinus (c. 340-410) translated Eusebius’ work into Latin around 402-403, substituting Papias’ more vague reference to “a woman accused of many sins” with the more pointed “adulterous woman” (muliere adultera), reflecting his conviction that Papias was indeed discussing the passage in question.
The Apostolic Constitutions (or part of it; more specifically books 1 to 6), from the late 4th century, is really just a reworded version of the Didascalia Apostolorum, written a century earlier. They belong to the same literary genre (Church Orders), and even the same possible place of origin - near Antioch in Syria.Patrick, very interesting…what do you think of this quotation?
Moreover, He ordained Paul, our fellow-apostle, to be of a persecutor an apostle, and declared him a chosen vessel, even when he had heaped many mischiefs upon us before, and had blasphemed His sacred name. He says also to another, a woman that was a sinner: “Your sins, which are many, are forgiven, for you love much.” (Luke 7:47) And when the elders had set another woman which had sinned before Him, and had left the sentence to Him, and had gone out, our Lord, the Searcher of the hearts, inquiring of her whether the elders had condemned her, and being answered No, He said unto her: “Go your way therefore, for neither do I condemn you.” (John 8:11) This Jesus, O you bishops, our Saviour, our King, and our God, ought to be set before you as your pattern; and Him you ought to imitate
Apostolic Constitutions, Vol.II, chapter 24
newadvent.org/fathers/07152.htm
The Didache. known later as.the Didascalia. and as the Apostolic Constitutions, along with the elusive gospel of Hebrews, and the maligned writings of Papias, (disciple of John) all seem to have Jewish Christian origins. Could these supposed writings by Jewish Christians have been disregarded by the established and early non-Jewish Christian Church?The Apostolic Constitutions (or part of it; more specifically books 1 to 6), from the late 4th century, is really just a reworded version of the Didascalia Apostolorum, written a century earlier. They belong to the same literary genre (Church Orders), and even the same possible place of origin - near Antioch in Syria.
And that’s really the thing. Many of these ‘Church Orders’ were living literature, being updated and amended by copyists as the years go on, mixing ancient parts with materials from the contemporary uses and tradition of the copyists and removing what no more in line with the current understanding. Case in point: the Apostolic Constitutions drew upon from both the Didascalia, the Apostolic Tradition (aka the Egyptian Church Order), the much earlier Didache; the Didascalia in turn was a 3rd century ‘update’ of the Didache.