Woman Euthanized after Faking Autism Diagnosis

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blackforest said:
Here is a scary unintended consequence of legalized assisted suicide. This woman had a history of unstable mental health and wanted to kill herself following a messy break-up. These doctors failed to vet her circumstances, believed her claim of being autistic, and may face jail time.

Woman Faked Autism Diagnosis, Was Euthanized, Certifying Doctors On Trial For Helping
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Belgium.

Why am I not surprised to find this out?

If it wasn’t Belgium, the Netherlands would have been my second guess.
 
blackforest said:
Here is a scary unintended consequence of legalized assisted suicide.
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One should wonder if that ^ is true. Given the 20th century’s track record of marxism and eugenics…

A government official would have to be grossly incompetent not to be able to see this sort of situation as a probability before considering the legalization of euthanasia.
 
To clarify, you think this law was passed while proponents knew fully well that it would be abused in this manner? That thought gives me the shivers . . .
 
But they said it wouldn’t happen and pro-life activists were just scaremongering and being mean and regulations would prevent these tragedies…
 
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Annie said:
This is horrifying to me. I’m not autistic, but that autistic people, and probably people with other conditions, are being locked up in this day and age is so weird and awful!
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I don’t get how the diagnosis could be justification for assisted suicide, it’s not a terminal disease.
 
They are very weird in England about autism. And possibly in France as well.

I searched autism patients locked up in UK, and just the headlines sound awful. Some people in charge of NHS are calling for investigations.
 
porthos11 said:
Belgium.

Why am I not surprised to find this out?

If it wasn’t Belgium, the Netherlands would have been my second guess.
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Yeah, same here. I rolled my eyes when I saw it was in Belgium. What’s in the water over there??
 
No one has ever suggested that issues of misdiagnosis would not occur in relation to euthanasia, just as they do in all medical practice. You can lie to a doctor that you have certain symptoms in order o get a range of treatment. This does not usually lead to people urging that the treatment be provided to no one.

The legal problem in this case is that suicide was not available as a choice but required a particular set of conditions before assistance would be provided.

I am personally not sure if I support legalisation of physician-assisted suicide. I wish people would argue on the basis of facts and logic rather than emotional response to extreme cases.
 
The problem is that they thought autism was something so bad that it justifies euthanasia, which is of course never justified, but autism is a far cry from a terminal disease, which was the original necessity.

Drives me crazy. People keep saying it’s a slippery slope argument when we say things will get worse, and then the slippery slope occurs.
 
FiveLinden said:
No one has ever suggested that issues of misdiagnosis would not occur in relation to euthanasia, just as they do in all medical practice.
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Perhaps it wasn’t suggested. But obviously in Belgium, legalized assisted suicide was pushed forward without concern for these ramifications.
FiveLinden said:
I wish people would argue on the basis of facts and logic rather than emotional response to extreme cases.
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I’ve heard people of every side of every issue claim that they have the “facts and reason” and their opponents just have “emotion and feelings.” It’s self-congratulatory and does not a solid argument make.

This thread is simply making one of many moral cases against assisted suicide by exposing its abuses.
 
blackforest said:
This thread is simply making one of many moral cases against assisted suicide by exposing its abuses
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But the question is not its ‘abuse’. It is about its ‘use’. ‘Abuses’, as Catholics well know, are not a good basis on which to judge the intended and proper use of something.
 
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Good Saint Dymphna, great wonder-worker in every affliction of mind and body, I humbly implore your powerful intercession with Jesus through Mary, the Health of the Sick, in my present need. ( Mention it. ) Saint Dymphna, martyr of purity, patroness of those who suffer with nervous and mental afflictions, beloved child of Jesus and Mary, pray to Them for me and obtain my request.

(Pray one Our Father, one Hail Mary and one Glory Be.)

Saint Dymphna, Virgin and Martyr, pray for us.
 
Perhaps someone with a non terminal diagnosis such as Autism or Schizophrenia,Schizoafffective,Younger onset dementia etc may try to convince the doctors/decision maker that it was justifiable because there is often no effective treatment for many people with the severe manifestations of their conditions so they may say that there suffering was endless (many years) unlike people with terminal illnesses.
I’m speaking from their reasoning and not my own.

Personally I don’t support Euthanasia altogether as I would rather see society remove people’s suffering rather that get rid of the person themself(!).
However,at the same time,I don’t support the mentality that some people have that it’s ok in cases of terminal illnesses but not in other cases.
While is true that some people with terminal illness want euthanasia because they have no pain relief/are in unbearable pain,other people just want it because they don’t want to experience the “ugliness of illness”.
It would seem to me that in these cases their suffering is actually less than people’s with long standing non terminal diseases as they are ill for a relatively short time and then pass away so you could reason who’s suffering is greater and more “worthy” of euthanasia -a person with an illness that they will die from shortly anyway (I don’t mean that to sound non compassionate) or a person who has a long suffering illness of many years whether Autism or Schizophrenia etc which may separate them from society,normal functioning etc?

In my view it should be either ‘all or nothing’ I.e.:the patients suffering level should be judged by themselves alone and not by categorizing whether terminal or not terminal.

Of course,much better still there should be no euthanasia and society should instead become more caring and less self absorbed and governments should prioritize spending lots of money on health research for untreatable mind conditions,effective pain relief methods and speed up the times for medical research testing etc…

I don’t want to suggest that everyone with Autism etc is suffering greatly because many many people with Autism etc live happily and imo society should focus on accepting people that are different (whether a bit or a lot) instead of making them unwelcome but,realistically,there are some people who suffer greatly so that’s why I’m mentioning it.
 
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