Would it be morally acceptable to advocate zero population growth?

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If we are to believe the “global warming” people, Greta Thunberg et al (who should not be criticized or lampooned for her passionate defense of the earth, I greatly admire her for her principled stance even if I might disagree with aspects of it), and others who point out that population is outstripping resources, the planet Earth is in great trouble due to the activity of mankind.

If even some of this is true, would it be morally permissible to advocate either for zero population growth, or slow arithmetic growth rather than exponential, multiplicative growth? I realize that “conservative” commentators, especially Catholic ones, advocate for various forms of exponential growth, using the argument that the earth could sustain many times its present population, tens, possibly scores of billions, if only people would change their lifestyles, curb pollution, curb their energy use (especially carbon-based, nonrenewable sources), and eat lower on the food chain. In Catholic circles, this is also accompanied, at least implicitly and unspoken, by the idea that “there would be more souls to give glory to God”.

But does it bind us in conscience to believe this? Could faithful, orthodox Catholics maintain that world population should be capped, let’s say, at 10 billion, with possibly a very small annual growth factor (less than one percent), and everyone agreeing to use NFP to keep their families either at replacement level or slightly above it? Would we be able to say “yes, the Bible says ‘be fruitful and multiply’, but to keep on doubling and doubling the world’s population will end up ruining the planet for all of us, so maybe ‘multiply’ can also mean a very, very slow rate of growth, now that we have reached this point”?

And, yes, I realize that the entire population of the world isn’t going to take up NFP, but I am just speaking in terms of advocating population control using morally acceptable means.

Thoughts?
 
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I see no moral fault in forming a judgement about desirable population growth rates. What is done to bring about particular growth rates is another question.

Clearly, the planet is finite. Therefore population cannot (and thus will not) continue to grow in an unbounded way.
 
Without entering into the ethical aspects of your question, you might care to look at this other thread here in Social Justice. Before the end of the present century, according to projections published recently in The Lancet, the population will be declining in nearly every country, with a very steep decline in some countries.
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I remember how some decades ago married couples were told to use birth control because great overpopulation problems were on the horizon, which is a great danger to the human race. While these people weren’t looking, something very different has happened.
 
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But has the “something different” happened because contraception is used? Presumably yes. Had contraception not existed, what population trends would be in evidence?
 
And, yes, I realize that the entire population of the world isn’t going to take up NFP, but I am just speaking in terms of advocating population control using morally acceptable means.

Thoughts?
Where is God and Catholicism in this? Are we better then God that we can say no more population growth
 
No I don’t think it’s morally acceptable. In general, it basically amounts to overstepping the bounds of one’s authority. As far as that goes, I don’t believe anyone has the authority, moral or not, to advocate that people only have a certain amount of children.

In individual circumstances there may be situations where a parent tries to get their child not have children because of developmental issues or mental illness. But that’s not what we’re talking about here.

I do think it is morally acceptable to warn people, in general, about environmental issues as they relate to population growth rates. Or to warn people about parenting obstacles. But to actually say “you should only have X amount of children” is something different altogether.
 
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Had contraception not existed, what population trends would be in evidence?
Perhaps not as steep, but people are dating less and having fewer physical relations, licit or otherwise. In Japan, a significant amount of young adults are effectively celibate and not seeking relations licit or otherwise.
 
God commanded ‘go forth and multiply’
Fine, which does not include a rate, nor does it require that the “multiplying” should be without regard to circumstances. When you are told “drive” - the speed and duration are not specified.
 
But contraception does exist. I don’t see the point of this question.
The reality today differs from the concerns expressed decades ago because contraception was used and that means was employed to constrain births. So the differing reality to forecast is readily explained. Had there been no adoption of contraception, I anticipate global population would be quite a bit higher, the earlier concerns validated, and concerns about population would be ever more loudly expressed.
 
Fine, which does not include a rate, nor does it require that the “multiplying” should be without regard to circumstances. When you are told “drive” - the speed and duration are not specified.
God did lay down a few rules about multiplying
 
Given the worldwide declines in Total Fertility Rates, it would be better to encourage marriage and large families, as some western nations are already doing, with little success.
 
You know that we’re looking at declining population numbers in most countries now, right?
I am perfectly aware of that — I was just trying to advance a Catholic solution. Obviously this population decline is being driven by contraception (as well as sterilization and, sadly, abortion), and I do not make it my business to advocate courses of action that involve sin.

Europe is in big trouble, Japan even moreso. The United States has a built-in advantage of being able to grow through “cherry-picked” immigration, ensuring modest population growth through admitting just the right number of immigrants (illegal immigrants along the southern border do throw a spanner in the works, though I do have to think that the immigration powers-that-be realize that we have a porous border, and allow for this contingency in their calculations), carefully vetted to ensure that they will enhance this country and be an asset rather than a liability. Other desirable countries can do this too — Canada, Australia, and so on — but the United States is the first choice of many if not most, and we are the 800-pound gorilla in the room.
No I don’t think it’s morally acceptable. In general, it basically amounts to overstepping the bounds of one’s authority. As far as that goes, I don’t believe anyone has the authority, moral or not, to advocate that people only have a certain amount of children.
There’s no question of “authority” here. My scenario would be voluntary, appealing to people’s better nature and sense of duty to mankind in general. And I refer to general trends and overall rates of growth — there will always be people who want large families, and people who have no children at all, either voluntarily or involuntarily.
 
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There’s no question of “authority” here. My scenario would be voluntary, appealing to people’s better nature and sense of duty to mankind in general. And I refer to general trends and overall rates of growth — there will always be people who want large families, and people who have no children at all, either voluntarily or involuntarily.
Trust in God and His plan to provide for His people.
 
There’s no question of “authority” here. My scenario would be voluntary, appealing to people’s better nature and sense of duty to mankind in general.
The question of authority comes with who is doing the “appealing to people’s better nature”. Is it the State, the Church, or just you and your YouTube channel? You haven’t said. Anyway, no one has the authority to annoy other people into having only two kids. Whether you call it voluntary or not, it’s still putting your nose into other people’s business.

It would be fine to warn people of certain environmental issues. But to then go on to suggest that the solution is to have less children is taking it too far.
 
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There’s no question of “authority” here. My scenario would be voluntary, appealing to people’s better nature and sense of duty to mankind in general.
The question of authority comes with who is doing the “appealing to people’s better nature”. Is it the State, the Church, or just you and your YouTube channel? You haven’t said. Anyway, no one has the authority to annoy other people into having only two kids. Whether you call it voluntary or not, it’s still putting your nose into other people’s business.

It would be fine warn people of certain environmental issues. But to then go on to suggest that the solution is to have less children is taking it too far.
Again, I don’t think any question of “authority” exists here. If anyone is giving advice, or demonstrating reasons why Course of Action X is a good thing, nobody has been forced to do anything. I would not be the least bit scandalized if the Holy Father recommended responsible parenthood keeping in mind present temporal realities, in fact, if I’m not mistaken, he has done pretty much that — he managed to ruffle some feathers by saying people “shouldn’t multiply like rabbits”. (Nowhere did he suggest that immoral means be employed to carry out that suggestion.)

If we say that advocating for people to do something, or not do something, is “putting your nose in their business”, then there could be no advertising, no political campaigns, no persuasive oratory, no popular movements such as Black Lives Matter (“they matter, and you should care about this”), nobody ever advising anyone to do anything unless the listener has first solicited the other person’s advice.
 
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