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Hi everyone,

Have a question, my sister invited me to her church to see a play that my neice is in and my first instinct is to go. My problem is this I feel that she is being terribly mislead and given false sense of security and I am afraid that I may something to her Pastor. You see she is a OSAS believer and I have a very hard time with that, but I do love her very much and really want to bring her home any advice would be appreciated.

God Bless
Kathleen
 
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BOBKAT:
Hi everyone,

Have a question, my sister invited me to her church to see a play that my neice is in and my first instinct is to go. My problem is this I feel that she is being terribly mislead and given false sense of security and I am afraid that I may something to her Pastor. You see she is a OSAS believer and I have a very hard time with that, but I do love her very much and really want to bring her home any advice would be appreciated.

God Bless
Kathleen
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Yes, I would go if invited. You don’t have to join your sister’s church to support your niece. My wife and I went to my brother’s Kingdom Hall a number of times to hear my nephew give a talk. We didn’t go to endorse or embrace Jehovah’s Witnesses. We went to encourage and support my nephew.
 
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kage_ar:
Once Saved Always Saved - (Calvinism)
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Aha, thank you. Never saw that acronym before. I thought Calvinism was into predestination more so than OSAS. In any case, at least I know what you’re talking about.

My roommate from college, a very sensible non-denominational Christian (I keep praying she’ll convert one day, her theological understanding is quite ‘Catholic’ in nature), said that they believe in a concept called “backsliding.”
This may or may not be true for your sister’s church, but the gist was this:
It is possible to, without committing the ‘unforgivable sin,’ stray from the straight and narrow to a lifestyle unfit for a saved person. This person is still validly saved, but needs to repent and come back to the church and recommit him or herself to Christ.

I thought it was quite ironic that they realized the OSAS attitude was problematic and essentially instituted a watered-down version of Reconcilliation.

I say go to the event. When the time is right, bring up this concept of backsliding, and see if she is receptive.
 
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BOBKAT:
Hi everyone,

Have a question, my sister invited me to her church to see a play that my neice is in and my first instinct is to go. My problem is this I feel that she is being terribly mislead and given false sense of security and I am afraid that I may something to her Pastor. You see she is a OSAS believer and I have a very hard time with that, but I do love her very much and really want to bring her home any advice would be appreciated.

God Bless
Kathleen
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Sure. I’d go just to support your niece. If, you happen to run into the Pastor, you could say hi and slip him the brochure “Pillar of Fire, Pillar of Truth”.
 
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Sure. I’d go just to support your niece. If, you happen to run into the Pastor, you could say hi and slip him the brochure “Pillar of Fire, Pillar of Truth”.
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Thanks, Never thought of that will consider.

God Bless
Kathleen
 
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vluvski:
Please explain OSAS
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It stands for “Once Saved Always Saved”. You can find info on it in the Library section of Catholic.com. It is based on some incorrectly interpreted scripture passages.
 
In response to your original question, you should go and be a polite guest in their house. I would not slip anyone any pamphlets. That is rude. If someone says something to you like, “Are you saved?” then you give them an honest answer, which is “YOU BET YOUR BOOTS BABY!!!” and then high five them.

ok, you can leave out the high five.:dancing:
 
I’d say go and be polite.

When they start trying to talk you into joining their church (and they will) just smile and tell them that you already belong to another church. Tell them it’s got over a billion members and it’s the greatest church in the world.

My experiences with the “social” churches is that they seem to back off as long as I’m not confrontational about my Catholicism.
 
if it is a play, not a worship service, by all means go and support your niece.
 
Kathleen,

Go support your niece if you like! If it is a OSAS church, however, the play may be one that has been created specifically so that their church members can invite “unbelievers” to it and try to convert them. I’ve had this done to me. The play was geared up to an altar call at the end. Part way through the play, audience participation was required. We were supposed to invite the person sitting next to us to accept Jesus. So you never know what a play may hold in store for you.🙂
 
Can she High Five them THEN???

ok ok … I’m going to confession now…
 
My entire family believes in “OSAS” as you put it. So did I until I was “Surprised by Truth” about 11 years ago. I am always reluctant to go to things at my parents church or to send my kids. My dad is one of the pastors, and in charge of a lot of different programs, and they always invite us. They can’t understand why I don’t send my kids to things like “Awana”. We go to some things and say “no” to others. I would probably go to see my niece in a play. The way I would answer “Are you saved?” is “Yes! And I hope to be!”

As a side note, I saw an old friend recently that I had known in the youth group of this same church. When she found out that I am Catholic now (and loving it), she said that that must be my own way of rebelling against my minister father, because I had always been such a “good” girl growing up, never in any trouble, etc. I’ve never been called rebellious in my entire life. Kind of funny that joining the Catholic Church is what did it.🙂
 
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Kathleen,

Go support your niece if you like! If it is a OSAS church, however, the play may be one that has been created specifically so that their church members can invite “unbelievers” to it and try to convert them. I’ve had this done to me. The play was geared up to an altar call at the end. Part way through the play, audience participation was required. We were supposed to invite the person sitting next to us to accept Jesus. So you never know what a play may hold in store for you.🙂
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I had the exact same thing happen to me seven or eight years ago. A girl I was seeing at the time “tricked” me into going. I don’t even remember how I responded, lol.
 
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LSK:
If someone says something to you like, “Are you saved?” then you give them an honest answer, which is “YOU BET YOUR BOOTS BABY!!!” and then high five them.

ok, you can leave out the high five.:dancing:
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:rotfl:

LSK, you are one crazy Catholic lady! You must be a barrel of laffs, girl!
 
OSAS is a very Baptist theology - though it is quite different from Calvinism (from my understanding) which is about predestination (though I disagree with both and always have - grew up in the Wesleyan Arminian tradition)

I always chuckle at ya’lls reactions to OSAS because my protestant reaction has been the same for almost all of my life - as long as I knew about it, lol - it was my biggest issue with my best friend in highschool because she took it to mean she could do what ever she wanted…
 
Thanks everyone, Just what I needed to hear and I will go,however I will be reserved, but armed and ready. You all gave such great insight.

God Bless
Kathleen
 
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