Wrapping my mind about NFP (not a debate)

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Okay, so I finally got up the courage to go off the birth control pill, which I’d been on for about 7 years or so. My doctor put me on it for heavy periods, and I’d been on it ever since, until about a month ago. I went to a new doctor, who was very supportive about me going off the pill so that when I get married (possibly next year) I’ll be fertile. I’m trying to learn NFP from free sites on the internet, and I’ve got a few questions.

This month, I’m not charting, since I probably still have artificial hormones in my system. However, I’ve been observing fertility signs and I DEFINITELY can see the changes in my body. I had two days of textbook-definition fertile mucous. Now, does that mean that those two days were ovulation? And if so, does that mean the window for trying to get pregnant is really only two days? It seems awfully short to me!

What I understand from the websites I’ve read is that if we were trying to avoid pregnancy, we wouldn’t have relations for at least two days before my estimated ovulation date, and for at least two days after fertility signs end. Am I right, or should I be more conservative? That would only be six or seven days for me, if I’m reading my body right.

And conversely, if we’re trying to conceive, should we have relations every day during that window, or is once or twice better? (I’ve heard his little soldiers will be stronger if they don’t have to march every day, heh heh. 😊)

Also, my doctor told me to start taking pre-natal vitamins now, even though it’s at least a year before we’ll get married. I can think of three reasons why he’d suggest this: (a) it’s better to prepare my body well in advance of trying for pregnancy, (b) he doesn’t believe me that I’m not sexually active and so he wants to make sure a theoretical surprise baby would be healthy, and (c) he’s the co-owner of the vitamin store next door to his practice :rolleyes:. Since two out of three reasons suggest that I don’t really need the pre-natal vitamins, I’m kind of planning not to take them. Have any of you been told to take pre-natals before you’re even married?
 
Well…I’m no expert, but I THINK you’re fertile for a maximum of 5 or 6 days, once you ovulate the ‘window’ is hours rather than days though…I was charting when DD2 was conceived, and we bd on 15th May, I O’d on the 19th and got pregnant! So, it’s more than 2 days for most people…

Your other questions I’m sure others will have a better answer for:D
 
When using NFP you have to consider the time you are fertile and the life span of the sperm. I use Naprotechnology. We abstain from the first show of mucus until through three dry days to avoid pregnancy. Use the most fertile type mucus to conceive.
 
Hey Just Wondering! How goes it?
And conversely, if we’re trying to conceive, should we have relations every day during that window, or is once or twice better? (I’ve heard his little soldiers will be stronger if they don’t have to march every day, heh heh. 😊)
I wouldn’t worry about this. If sperm count is determined to be a problem, you can deal with it later. Love as often as you like.😉 Of course I’d have my recommendation…:whistle:
Also, my doctor told me to start taking pre-natal vitamins now, even though it’s at least a year before we’ll get married. I can think of three reasons why he’d suggest this: (a) it’s better to prepare my body well in advance of trying for pregnancy, (b) he doesn’t believe me that I’m not sexually active and so he wants to make sure a theoretical surprise baby would be healthy, and (c) he’s the co-owner of the vitamin store next door to his practice :rolleyes:. Since two out of three reasons suggest that I don’t really need the pre-natal vitamins, I’m kind of planning not to take them. Have any of you been told to take pre-natals before you’re even married?
Reason#4 Your doctor might get paid if he gives you a prescription. 😉

My wife was always on prenatal vitamins. I always assumed it was due to the constant potential of pregnancy. Which of course was true for us. What I’ve heard about vitamins is that they don’t “store up” well in the body. So I think “b” is a good guess. But of course I’m no doctor. Any OB’s out there?
 
RE: taking pre-natal vitamins. The main thing here is the vitamins and minerals in them are not harmful to you and they could help with your fertility. You can go to Wal-Mart and get generic pre-natals if you want or go to the health food store and get the ones with less “fillers”, you don’t need to get the ones from your docs. store - but in the long run whether you are trying to get pg. or not, they have what a young woman needs for her body to function well!

Someone else talked about how long you are fertile so, the simple answer is, no, you don’t have quite that small a window in which to get pregnant but, technically, you do - the difference is you may have the marital embrace days before you have an egg ready to be fertilized yet you have the right environment for his “little soldiers” to live in in order to meet up with the egg and create a baby!

Brenda V.
 
Note on the pre-natals- I react HORRIBLY to them. Constipation thanks to the high levels of iron, sick to my stomach, headache, you name it. The thought of being on them for so long is making me ill. I’d say skip them.

I would just take a regular old multi-vitamin until you’re married, then switch to a pre-natal when trying to conceive. My doctor (who doesn’t have any ties to vitamin companies 😉 ) says that if you have a well-balanced diet you’re probably getting most of your nutritional needs met, anyway.
 
You are fertile for more than those couple of days. .

Sperm can live in fertile mucus for 3 - 5 days. . so prior to ovulation, the sperm can actually be thriving on the fertile mucus.

Once ovulation is determined, you are fertile for another 3 days post ovualtion. You are infertile on the 4th day post peak.
 
Thanks, everyone, for your replies. So what I’m getting from this is that my body is fertile for longer than just the couple of days around ovulation. It’s possible to get pregnant from relations up to five days before ovulation and about three days post-ovulation, due to the mucous creating a friendly environment for sperm. Got it. So when we try for a baby, we should be particularly active during that time ;), while if we’re avoiding, we should obviously avoid that window.

And as for the pre-natals, they’re not really necessary, but a normal multi-vitamin probably wouldn’t hurt.

Thanks! 👍

One more question. I feel kind of embarrassed to ask - it makes me feel ignorant. 😊

Why isn’t it likely to get pregnant after the mucous dries up? The egg is still there, right? I thought it stayed put until menstruation. So why, all of a sudden, would the sperm be unable to reach it? I would have thought that semen is mucous-y enough to help the sperm get there on their own, even without the help of mucous. Any insight?
 
The only stupid question is the one that hasn’t been asked!

After mucous has dried up the egg “dies” and may even leave the body before Menses begins. The biology of it all is that if the egg doesn’t get fertilized it “dies” which is why you have that three or so day window (depending on the method and rules you are using).

God has so wonderfully made us that we can only get pregnant in a small window of every month! And even then you won’t always get pregnant!

Brenda V.
 
The only stupid question is the one that hasn’t been asked!

After mucous has dried up the egg “dies” and may even leave the body before Menses begins. The biology of it all is that if the egg doesn’t get fertilized it “dies” which is why you have that three or so day window (depending on the method and rules you are using).

God has so wonderfully made us that we can only get pregnant in a small window of every month! And even then you won’t always get pregnant!

Brenda V.
Right!
Once the egg is released (ovulation), it only lives for 12-24 hours if not fertilized.

Also, after ovulation, your cervix forms a mucus plug that closes off the cervix. There is a diagram of the cervix on www.woomb.org
 
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