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[FreakyLocz14]

But for practicing Catholics who believe in the authority of the Church… including the Bible, Sacred Tradition, the Magesterium and the Catechism of the Catholic Church… what you believe is really irrelevant…

The Word of God (the Holy Bible) is irrelevant to you?

I’ll keep you in my prayers.

 

[Church_Militant]

That’s not what he means FL.

The best way to tread that statement is

Originally Posted by migueltojose

[forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_khaki/viewpost.gif](http://forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=11388720#post11388720) *But for practicing Catholics who believe in the authority of the Church.. including the Bible, Sacred Tradition, the Magesterium and the Catechism of the Catholic Church... what **you*** **(personally)** believe is really irrelevant.. since you have no authority to make definitive statements and decisions on matters of faith and morals*. *The Bible nowhere gives individual believers or itself that authority, but clearly vests it in the Church and since none of us have the 2,000 years of scholarship, teaching, and historical Christian writings that it does, then it's pretty weak to ignore and/or argue against the church's authority.

 

[FreakyLocz14]

That’s not what he means FL.

The best way to tread that statement is since you have no authority to make definitive statements and decisions on matters of faith and morals*. *The Bible nowhere gives individual believers or itself that authority, but clearly vests it in the Church and since none of us have the 2,000 years of scholarship, teaching, and historical Christian writings that it does, then it’s pretty weak to ignore and/or argue against the church’s authority.

Yes, the Church has the authority, but that doesn’t meambthat it can’t err in exercising that authority. If it were otherwise, anyone who believes that our planet is round and isn’t the center of the universe is a heretic.

 

[davidv]

Yes, the Church has the authority, but that doesn’t meambthat it can’t err in exercising that authority. If it were otherwise, anyone who believes that our planet is round and isn’t the center of the universe is a heretic.

The Church cannot err on matters of faith and morals. Your comment about orbits is untrue and has nothing at all to do with the correctness of Church teaching.

 

[april32010]

anyone who believes that our planet is round and isn’t the center of the universe is a heretic.

the Church as never claimed this,educate yourself.

 

[FreakyLocz14]

The Church cannot err on matters of faith and morals. Your comment about orbits is untrue and has nothing at all to do with the correctness of Church teaching.

It can.

Praise be to God, for Pope Francis is considering doing away with some of the ridiculous outdated moral doctrines!

the Church as never claimed this,educate yourself.

history.com/this-day-in-history/galileo-is-convicted-of-heresy

 

[migueltojose]

That’s not what he means FL.

The best way to tread that statement is since you have no authority to make definitive statements and decisions on matters of faith and morals*. *The Bible nowhere gives individual believers or itself that authority, but clearly vests it in the Church and since none of us have the 2,000 years of scholarship, teaching, and historical Christian writings that it does, then it’s pretty weak to ignore and/or argue against the church’s authority.

I see that FL is gone now, but I appreciate your reply. I held my tongue presuming someone else would respond more appropriately than I was tempted to. Thumbs up. Thanks again.

I read FL’s previous posts. He was flirting with danger and got busted. Not sure if it was specific or cumulative. Could have been both. When you lead with your chin… you’re gonna get hit. I hope he learns and returns… better for the experience.