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What are your thoughts on the ‘catholic buddhist’ Father Robert E. Kennedy, the catholic priest and zen buddhist roshi? Also, on 'buddhist catholicism in general. I myself think we can learn quite a bit from the Buddha, though I would certainly reject much buddhist doctrine (reincarnation, karma, enlightenment in the buddhist sense, etc).
 
I don’t see why you would want to practice a different religion if you profess Catholicism (though buddism is more of a philosophy than a religion). If what you are looking into is their meditation (which isn’t free from all the buddist ‘doctrine’ (for lack of a better word)), then why are you overlooking the veritable wealth of Christian meditation.

Look into the writings of the Catholic mystics throughout history and you may find what you think is only available in the Orient.
 
What are your thoughts on the ‘catholic buddhist’ Father Robert E. Kennedy, the catholic priest and zen buddhist roshi? Also, on 'buddhist catholicism in general. I myself think we can learn quite a bit from the Buddha, though I would certainly reject much buddhist doctrine (reincarnation, karma, enlightenment in the buddhist sense, etc).
zen Catholicism is heresy. If it is not taught by the Church it is heresy and the priest need correction in his theology.
 
Hi Narrowpath-

As you probably already know, Father Kennedy is also a psychotherapist as well as a priest and seeks to bridge the gap between the Buddhist and Christian faiths.

Although you message is not very detailed, I can only guess what might be some of your reasons for pursuing an interest in Buddhism. I don’t want to second-guess you or put words in your mouth, as to your interest. Drawing from my own past experiences, with some people it’s just a curiosity to learn more about other faiths, or possibly with the idea that we can meld all faiths into a “universal faith”. With some its’s just “chiche”. However, I think in most cases, we Christians sometimes see in our faith a lack of mysticism that we yearn for. Sometimes this also leads to all kinds of New Age propaganda that is out there.

In years past, and for quite a long time I read quite heavily into the eastern faiths( Buddhism, Hinduism), along with a lot of the New Age writers. There is a lot of feel good stuff there and along with the meditation that is generally involved you may feel as if you are getting “enlightened”. Unfortunately, these faiths are not “Christ-centered” and I found when you really need support, these beliefs leave a person empty ( at least they did me). For me all paths led back to Christianity and the Catholic faith. In time, I pretty much lost my interest in the eastern faiths when I learned more and more what our own faith had to offer. I think the Christian faith, particularily Catholicism should be able to answer all our questions. The scary part of pursuing an interest with these other religions is that you can without your knowing it be pulled more and more away from the Christina faith.

In regard to learning from Buddha, I am convinced he was an incredibly gifted and spirtual man as evidenced by his teachings. Many of those teachings parallel very closely those spoken by Jesus. However, the big difference is that Buddha was not 'God" as we believe Jesus Christ to be.

There are several notable Catholics who have tried to bridge between the faiths along with Father Kennedy. Bede Griffiths and his involvement with Hinduiism comes to mind, as well as Thomas Merton with Buddhism in his later years. To a lesser degree John Main and Basil Pennington.

If you are looking for a mystical element to your faith you might want to read about the Eastern Orthodox monks on Mount Athos or more about the eastern Catholic Churches. In the western wing of the Catholic Church the writings of John Cassan, St. Therese of Avila, St. John of the Cross, and St. Francis of Assisi, Padre Pio or St. Faustina should help fill the gap.

With that said, I think some of us have to experience things first hand, be they right or wrong rather than just accepting what some one else says. That was sort of the case with me. I hope your pursuits come easier for you.
 
:confused: Well JMJ_coder, I never said I was becoming Buddhist, simply that we can learn certain things from the Buddha. As I said, I would never accept many of their teachings. JW55, thnx for the reading suggestions I will definatly look them up.😃
 
What are your thoughts on the ‘catholic buddhist’ Father Robert E. Kennedy, the catholic priest and zen buddhist roshi? Also, on 'buddhist catholicism in general. I myself think we can learn quite a bit from the Buddha, though I would certainly reject much buddhist doctrine (reincarnation, karma, enlightenment in the buddhist sense, etc).
The fullness of truth is only with the Catholic Church so there is nothing we can learn from buddhists.
 
Buddhism is a philosophy that is really a spiritual cult that is very dangerous and is to be avoided like the plague.

The whole system It is designed to surrender the will and the consciousness to break down one’s natural God given resistances to free the conscious to enlightenment and revelation. But in so doing one is inviting spurious demonic influence that is completely anti-Christian.

The Holy Spirit that is present in all Christians from the moment of baptism is already at work in each of us - enlightening us and teaching us God’s ways. The HS appeals to one’s conscience to actively use our gift of free will to actively choose God each day and to grow in the faith (give us this day our daily bread). This is a cooperation with freewill through the morally informed and developed conscience and it is completely at odds to the abandonment of will as practised by the Buddhist.

We live in a sea of demonic and spiritual forces that are seeking souls to influence and possess. Our guardian angels are constantly defending and keeping us us safe from these demonic influences but they are powerless to help us if we assent through freewill to cooperate with demonic influence (unless we later come back to our senses and try to repent and petition God’s help again). But once freewill and conscious choice is abandoned we open the door wide and invite any demon to enter. Buddhists are highly susceptible to demonic influence who will use the old lie of “superior enlightenment” and the vanity of “elitist thinking” to progressively take hold of the person. Such become so self-absorbed and preoccupied in the “system” that they are eventually isolated from Christian truth and left to think they are safe in their own inner contemplation and self sufficiency. This is a self centered philosophy that is just a veneer for the root sin of pride and self worship. There is only one avenue to Salvation - through Christ - not through self contemplation or similar forms of self worship.

So be advised that anyone who dabbles in Buddhism is literally opening the door to demonic possession. Most are clueless that they are already demonically possessed to greater or lessor degree. It is easy to rationalize that parts of Buddhism can be used to discipline the mind - buts the danger of being consumed by the discipline make it more dangerous the more proficient one becomes.

James
 
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