‘Say the Black, Do the Red’ — Liturgical Abuse and Pastoral Malpractice

[stpurl]

No offence but may we return to the topic, please?

This is about liturgical abuse, not about pre —or post—or outside of Mass communal rosaries. Seriously, there are always going to be people for whom ANY communal prayer will be whined over because it’s “too fast’, “Too slow’, “too loud’, ‘Too quiet’, ‘too much emPHAsis’, ‘too monotone’, etc. Etc. Etc and only the poster does it ‘right’.

Again, this is all outside the topic of the thread.

 

[Cor_ad_Cor]

I’ve shared this before a year or so ago, but you all are reminding me of an elderly couple (both passed on now +) that used to pray the rosary together before Mass while I was setting up. He was hard of hearing, so they were both loud enough for me to hear all over the church. He would say his parts long and slow and drawn out “Hail Mary… full of grace… the Lord…” She would then do her part faster than any auctioneer I had ever heard, hardly taking a breath! “HolyMaryMotherofGod”. They were together for about 60+ years or so - they made things work. I guess just another model of finding your speed when someone else is in a different gear.

 

[Reverent_Howler]

There was a few times when an adult was initiated into the faith here. It involved lay ministers touching the candidate on the mouth, and ears, and perhaps elsewhere. (It’s been a few years.) And saying Say no evil. Speak no evil…–but with fancier words. This would occur up front in the Sanctuary during weekend Mass.

 

[felsguy]

There was a few times when an adult was initiated into the faith here. It involved lay ministers touching the candidate on the mouth, and ears, and perhaps elsewhere. (It’s been a few years.) And saying Say no evil. Speak no evil… –but with fancier words. This would occur up front in the Sanctuary during weekend Mass.

This sounds like what was taking place was the Minor Exorcisms, one of the minor rites of the RCIA. If so, it certainly doesn’t fall under the heading of “Liturgical Abuse and Pastoral Malpractice.” The Rite itself states that these exorcisms “draw the attention of the catechumens to the real nature of Christian life, the struggle between flesh and spirit, the importance of self-denial for reaching the blessedness of God’s kingdom, and the unending need for God’s help” and further that they may be performed by qualified catechists “deputed by the bishop.”