“I would rather send my child to a secular school than to a Catholic school where unsound doctrine is promoted.” Do you agree?

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I’m confused about homeschooling. Is it parents teaching kids, or literally a home-school, where 5 kids are taught by a tutor?
 
OurGodIsWithUs said:
lmao. Hey I’m sorry, but that’s reality. Okay I’ll remove “losers.” I just want people to know the reality out there, so I tried sounding forceful. I’ll be nice. Thanks for calling me out 🙂
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It’s okay. This isn’t reddit and the rules here are quite hard to follow. I had to edit a post once because it was passive aggressive.

In my country we wear uniforms up till college/tertiary education. Used to hate uniforms because I wanted to wear whatever I want. Now I want it back because gosh, it was more convenient. It’s more practical too, when enforcing modesty/dress code.

But I get the general dislike for it. My Catholic school uniform isn’t even that cute or preppy, like the ones you guys tend to have. 😤
 
Thanks Ruth! One question, we might be considering homeschooling my younger sister for a bit so I ask, do you need special certification to teach your kids at home? How do colleges perceive this?
 
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No certification is required … at least not in my state.

Two of my kids are graduated and are in college and doing quite well.
 
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I think I would agree with the proposition because at a heterodox “Catholic” school the child would assume that sound doctrine is being taught and therefore it could be the case that he thinks that the heresy being promoted is actually orthodox. Whereas, when being taught at a secular school there is no assumption that doctrine is being taught and it would be more difficult - perhaps - for the child to be confused with regards to doctrinal matters and therefore he could be given sound doctrinal instruction at home and “deprogrammed” from the nonsense that is spread in secular schools.
However, I would rather that he is given home schooling if possible rather than either educational routes proposed.
 
I have mixed feelings on this…my take is a school and teachers, whether secular or religious only have about 6 or seven hours a day with students…that leaves 2/3s of the day, and weekends in the home…if a parent does not take responsibility for Lessons on and application in spiritual and moral Education, that’s the parents negligence, not the school’s…let the classroom be for academic education, and the home and the parish for religious and moral education…I want to raise my children, and not pass that responsibility to the school.
 
If I had proof such was happening at a Catholic school, I would be presenting it to the Diocese Office of Catholic Schools.
 
Personally, I missed uniforms because I didn’t have to think too hard about what to put on for the school day. Plus, our uniforms were very durable, so I didn’t need to go shopping for clothes often.
 
Interestingly, the Catholic schools here function more like an upper class private schools for the elite, and the vast majority of the pupils are not from Catholic families (although we make up only 0.5% of the population here in this country). Most Catholics with children I know of send their children to ordinary schools, and Catholic schools here aren’t interested in helping the Catholic families to pass the faith down to the younger generation. Despite being quite popular, the Catholic schools here select their pupils entirely based on standardised tests, and there’s no guarantees or even preferential treatment for Catholic children during the admission process. Most graduates from Catholic schools here remain Shinto-Buddhist, but a few will convert, and it appears to be the main source of new converts here.
 
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tafan2 said:
How do you know you would be unable to find a school that would provide a Catholic education?
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Even if you can find a school that is solidly Catholic, they are often unaffordable if a family has more than a couple kids. The average cost of Catholic elementary schools in my area runs around 6,000 - 6,500 / year. Only one school I know of has huge discounts at the 4 kid point, but by that time the tuition for 4 students is around 20k / year.

So if the choice is to homeschool or layout 20k per year while hoping the kids are getting a solidly Catholic education, it is easy to see why so many large Catholic families opt out of the formal Catholic education system.

That leaves aside the cost of sending kids to Catholic high schools (11-18k in my neck of the wood) or the fact that Catholic schools will vary rarely accept kids with anything beyond a mild learning disability. My ikids were told that their learning disabilities meant that they didn’t meet the “academic standards” of the local Catholic schools and would be better served by the public school system. These are Catholic schools were something like 1/4 to 1/3 of students are not Catholic (and many are not Christians).
 
dscath said:
my take is a school and teachers, whether secular or religious only have about 6 or seven hours a day with students…that leaves 2/3s of the day, and weekends in the home…if a parent does not take responsibility for Lessons on and application in spiritual and moral Education, that’s the parents negligence, not the school’s…let the classroom be for academic education, and the home and the parish for religious and moral education…I want to raise my children, and not pass that responsibility to the school.
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I would agree to a point, but the issue is that even in secular subjects there are dozens of opportunities for morally repugnant ideas to creep into education. You have English reading assignments about “my two mommies”, science classes that push gender ideology, et cetera.
 
Bingo. You hit the biggest problem. $$$.

Assume three kids, amounting to 17K a year. Lets say they go 1-8, 8 years. 8 x 17K = 136000.
Then what? Higher ed. Ok. 4 more years. Assume it costs more. 3 kids, now 22K a year. 4 x 22K = 88000.

Then comes our good ol’ friend… COLLEGE!!!. 30grand per year * 4 years * 3 kids = 360,000.

Grand total = 360K + 88K + 136K = 584,000.
You could buy TWO, TWO Lamborghini Huracans with that money. Taxes covered as well.
 
As my screen name says, we homeschool. Everything we do in our school is permeated through and through with orthodox, traditional Catholic doctrine, faith, liturgy, and piety. Just the past couple of days, in our religion-cum-philosophy class, we had two informal discussions about the immorality of in vitro fertilization — my son had heard about attempts to produce the male gamete from female cells, and the monstrous results this could have (he pointed out that the baby could turn out like a teratoma!) — and the errors and evil core of Freemasonry (we took a day trip to a nearby town where Freemasonry is huge, and I explained to him “nice town, safe little town, so clean you could eat off the streets, but something evil lies beneath”). I told him, if I’m not around to guide you one of these days, don’t ever let anyone get you sucked into Freemasonry. I seriously doubt there’s a Catholic school in the land that teaches religion in this fashion, and we are talking the last quarter of Grade 7. (Too much for him to handle, you say? He’s one smart kid, and can talk to you like he’s 30 years old. There’s not much he doesn’t know.)

We did Catholic school for several years, and I cannot honestly say that any heterodox teaching ever took place, but it was more what they didn’t deal with, than what they did. It was very much a magnet school of sorts for well-to-do northern transplants (Catholic and otherwise), as well as wealthy town folks who don’t want to send their children to public schools for this reason or that. The tuition, while not ruinous, was not affordable to “regular working people”. (In all fairness, financial aid was available.) If I had to sum it up, I would say that nothing was ever done, or taught, to ruffle the feathers of anyone who didn’t want their children exposed to full-bore, high-octane, no-holds-barred orthodox Catholic teaching. The majority of the faculty was not even Catholic — “who’s Catholic and who’s not” was a subject never discussed in that school, kind of an unwritten rule. My son was in Grade 5 before he even had a Catholic homeroom teacher. In short, it was “Catholic school lite”.

Long story short, homeschool if you can, and teach orthodox, traditional Catholic doctrine without compromise.
 
My 3 children went to Catholic school. It did not cost anywhere near what you quote, @OurGodIsWithUs, but we do live in an almost rural area, second lowest tuition in the state. 99% go to college after graduating, more scholarship money was received by a much smaller student body than the local high schools.

Our little school, K-12 scored really high academically in the state and nationally. Class sizes were small enough for teachers to know the students.

My children all said they would not have wanted to attend public school, looking back.

I would rather my children go to a Catholic school, where they have religion classes and prayers before all classes began. Even if they received “unsound doctrine” they would still not be learning PC nonsense that passes for education in secular schools.
 
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I quoted (estimated) another user’s figures, which IMO, are pretty accurate in my area as well. I guess schools are different! 🙂
 
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