We all work for the diocese/archdiocese. We are not paid. Our wages, out of this world, are in the after life. Believe me, I do work as a deacon. Those who hold paying jobs as I said are holding special paid positions with the diocese or parish. These are in a small minority. At least thats the way in my Archdiocese. We have over 300 deacons.
We have seven religious in our parish. Three are priests. Two of the priests have physical disabilities. We have two permanent deacons. Our permanent deacons work very hard. They come from their place of employment and begin their evening from about 5:00 to about 10:00 every night and Saturdays and Sundays.
Again, all the deacons I know are working for their diocese and getting a salary. I personally don’t know anty who were working as deacons and not getting a salary from the diocese
Again, I don’t know any deacons who are working in our diocese and not getting paid. We don’t have 300 deacons, but the ones we have are all on the payroll.
It’s off the subject, Easter Joy, but I am curious as to how you answer the above question. When I had little ones and someone asked me if I worked, I’d just smile and say, “No. I just spend the day watching the kids cook and clean for the family.”“What lovely kids…do you work?”
Do you actually go around asking them if they get paid? What about how about asking them how much money is in their bank account or how much they weigh?
I usually just say “Well, yes, I work, but not at anything that brings home a paycheck.” Usually the reply is a quick “Well, yes! I guess I should have worded that differently!”
I am truly happy for them. What diocese are you in?
We have deacons that may be on the diocesan or parish payroll but not for being a deacon. They usually have other positions like DRE, business mananger or such things like that. The ones who work for the diocese are in human resources or finance, things like that. The only two I know paid as deacons are the two in charge of the diaconate and diaconate formation, but even that is part time and they have other jobs. No one gets paid for simply being a deacon in a parish. Some pastors might give a deacon a small stipend for weddings, baptisms or wakes but that is not required and up to the pastor.
No, I helped proofread some materials for the diaconate classes and I got to know all the deacons and their wives.Do you actually go around asking them if they get paid? What about how about asking them how much money is in their bank account or how much they weigh?
JR
With a due respect, I wouldn’t say this in public. You may put your diocese on the spot. You wouldn’t want to do this.
Yes, our deacons are paid because they all have ministries (“posts”) funded by the diocese. Since I don’t know any deacons outside my diocese, I had no idea that other dioceses didn’t pay their deacons. I asked a deacon friend about this and he said it was perfectly fine for me to say that the deacons are paid because it is public knowledge within the diocese, and I am not putting anyone “on the spot”.With a due respect, I wouldn’t say this in public. You may put your diocese on the spot. You wouldn’t want to do this.
If the deacons and their wives shared this information it’s because you’re a friend. Information about income and salaries is usually very confidential.
As to permanent deacons receiving a salary, that is not the norm in the Church. Only those who hold a post receive a salary for that post.
Even priests and religious receive a salary for the post they hold, not for their ministry.
We have seven friars and two deacons. Our deacons are not on the payroll, because they are not parish staff, even though they are clergy. The superior of the house does not receive a salary, because he’s not parish staff, even though he’s the pastor’s superior. The pastor, the associates and two friars who are not priests, but work for the parish receive salaries that go to their community.
The two deacons and the two friars who are not on the staff receive no funds from the parish, even though they do ministry in the parish. Those are the rules of the US Bishop’s Conference.
If your bishop pays the deacons, that’s a diocesan policy, not a universal policy.
JR
What did they do BEFORE kneeling became a custom? (That’ll take some deep thinking)
My aunt, (64), who has a bad knee, said if Communion rails were re-introduced, she would kneel on the good knee and receive on the tongue even if it were painful. She said a little pain at Communion time would remind everyone of what Jesus had to go through. Maybe she has a good point.What did they do BEFORE kneeling became a custom? (That’ll take some deep thinking)
I agree that it should be up to the people how they partake. I personally like to kneel, but not when taking communion. I always feel that I’m holding up the line. You see, I am old as dirt and my body just don’t move too good anymore. but I do love to kneel, and I do kneel at my seat on the kneeler, but even then I have to slide back in my seat a little. (the old knees)
Though I admire you aunt’s piety, this is not required. Auntie M has the right of it. The Church does not expect people to do what is medically or physically difficult. The Church expects us to be spiritually worthy of receiving the Eucharist.
Actually, dear heart, receiving on the hand was the original custom/tradition which *predated *receiving on the tongue.
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Well, that was THE original way. This would definitely be in keeping with Tradition.I don’t know, my priest says the only good way to receive communion IS in hand…
and what do you mean by that?Well, that was THE original way. This would definitely be in keeping with Tradition.