1/2 Catholic & 1/2 Pagan

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You will have to simplify it for me then, my simple mind can’t comprehend the complexity of your beliefs 😛 . So are you saying you intend to remain a Mormon, and all that entails (prophethood of Smith, among other things) while becoming a Catholic? You’ll have to forgive me I can’t see how those two things do not conflict or hinder each other, let alone when occultism and ‘‘chaos magic’’ are thrown into the mix.
 
I can recognize the genius of any person in history without running into conflict with the Catholic Church. Furthermore, my Mormonism was somewhat “liberal” to begin with, and “Cafeteria Mormons” don’t have the same kind of stigma that “Cafeteria Catholics” do within their own ranks…
Is “Jack Mormon” the LDS equivalent to “cafeteria Catholic” (“Magisterium of the menu” is another phrase I’ve heard:eek:)?
 
I have never come across a religion that was totally 100% wrong. I was raised third generation JW, stayed until I was 34-including 15 plus years as a missionary(pioneer), and my father was one of the elite, so I saw and knew everything there was to see and know. I searched for a year and explored LDS, but did not get to the Temple (we moved away just weeks before we were scheduled for the Temple), altho I did get to some pretty heavy “insider” type conversations. As a child my father had an occult side that involved Luciferianism, altho I could not put a name to it until I became an adult, this was done completely separate from his JW activities, and yet because JWs do have Masonic/Spiritistic connections from their early days they were somehow connected. Many of the “old men” I knew from Bethel headquarters were also involved. So I personally knew about satanism and demonology and that sort of thing. JWs are obsessed with demons anyway. When I left them and the LDS, I searched for a couple more years and settled on Italian Witchcraft because it was my heritage and I was not ready to accept Christianity yet.

Everything- I have every been religiously- involved truths. But the Catholic Church involves more of them than the others did. I was pretty liberal and as Tsuzuki said “cafeteria” or eclectric. I found truths wherever I looked. These truths were not only tolerated in the Catholic Church, they were encouraged. This is what attracted me to it.

Find the truths you have in common with this woman and capitolize on them–making sure you direct her to the Church. It will go much farther than condemning her cherished beliefs with arrogant assumptions. You do not have to sacrifice any integrity, but start out with what you have in common. Soft sell. Time will come when you need to draw a line, but it will be easier if you are friends first.
 
That is cool! I think I’ll use that. :rotfl:
Tsuzuki,

The reason one can not belong to two different religions simultaneously is not about the things they hold in common. Rather, it is about their beliefs that contradict. When one embraces a religion one assents to its doctrine, its moral teaching, its ideas of spiritual matters, things we can not see, such as an afterlife.

We can try to harmonize teachings of different religions that are incompatible, but that is impossible. For example only, if one religion says that it is sinful to consume alcohol and another says it is a holy thing to do, both can not be true. If one religion says taking heroin as a sacrament is good, and another says injecting heroin is evil, both can not be true. If a religion says ritual suicide pleases God, and another says it is evil and God forbids it, both can not be true, unless the two have different Gods. In that case you have to choose which God you will follow, or neither. You can not follow both. You can not commit suicide and not commit suicide. When you come to a fork in the road you can not take two paths, left and right, north and south. You must choose one.

The doctrines of Mormonism and Catholicism are incompatible. There is either a triune God or there is not. Jesus is either a divine person, the second person of the Holy Trinity or He is a created being. If one says it does not matter which is true then one should neither be a Mormon or Catholic, because each religion says this is essential to their belief.

One can not be a Methodist and a Calvinist, and a Catholic, and animist, pagan, Mormon, Jew, atheist, pantheist, all at the same time. For the same reason one can not be any two of these at the same time.

In the very early days of Christianity the idea arose that there was some truth in all religions. This is indeed true, but the idea was that all religions could therefore be melded into one. This was called syncretism. It was condemned by the Catholic Church as heresy, a false belief. Either all religions can be harmonized or they can not. If they can and the Catholic Church is wrong about it, or that is what you think, then be a syncretist, or pagan, or a nothing. Don’t be a Catholic or try to be, because you reject the teachings of Catholicism. You can not sincerely be both. If you reject the teaching of a religion and try to belong to that religion it makes no sense and it makes you a hipocrit.

If you like or believe some of the teachings of Catholicism and reject others, then continue to look for a religion that aligns with what you believe, or start your own. Many people do that in our confused time. Maybe you can pick the doctrines of Catholicism you accept and certain Mormon doctrines where you do not believe the Catholic position and come up with a hybrid religion. It will not be Catholic, or Mormon. It will be Tzusukan.

Best wishes.
 
Is there a list of teachings that one must believe or one is not Catholic?
basically the Creed. I was told that is all you need.
then the Catechism. And I was told you don’t have to agree you just have to be obedient.
 
Hi

I think only the emboldened portion is from Matthew 28:18-20 the rest is only your inference not from the NTBible.

Further, **Jesus did not **say these words , these are according to Matthew, not accoding to Jesus.

Thanks
 
Is there a list of teachings that one must believe or one is not Catholic?
Yes, but hardly anyone knows what it is. They are the dogmatic truths of the faith. There are some basics like the articles of faith expressed in the few Creeds. I think the earliest was the Apostles Creed and the last one was the Nicean Creed. I used to have a book on Catholic dogma. Its not something most people memorize. The important things are the articles of the Creed and the doctrines on sacraments, Marian dogma, four last things, the Trinitarian doctrine.
 
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Is there a list of teachings that one must believe or one is not Catholic?
Yes, but hardly anyone knows what it is. They are the dogmatic truths of the faith. There are some basics like the articles of faith expressed in the few Creeds. I think the earliest was the Apostles Creed and the last one was the Nicean Creed. I used to have a book on Catholic dogma. Its not something most people memorize. The important things are the articles of the Creed and the doctrines on sacraments, Marian dogma, four last things, the Trinitarian doctrine.
Hi

All from inferences, not from Jesus.

Thanks
 
Hi

I think only the emboldened portion is from Matthew 28:18-20 the rest is only your inference not from the NTBible.

Further, **Jesus did not **say these words , these are according to Matthew, not accoding to Jesus.

Thanks
That was not in Ravyn’s post, it is her signature. Please stay on topic.
 
How can someone call themselves Catholic who does not acknowledge the one true God and also practices idolatry.
A little off the subject, but many non-Catholics feel we practice idolatry (praying to Mary, statues, etc.) as well.
 
Hi

I think only the emboldened portion is from Matthew 28:18-20 the rest is only your inference not from the NTBible.

Further, **Jesus did not **say these words , these are according to Matthew, not accoding to Jesus.

Thanks
this is my signature and has nothing to do with the thread at all. Sorry you take offense but it is not open to discusssion-it is my motto. I basically adopted it when I had had enough of the Christian Protestant Extremists who insist that Catholics are not Christian when we are the original Christians. It would be much longer if this forum allowed more characters in the signatures.
 
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