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I wonder why people who tire of certain threads read and participate in them? Hmmmm? :confused:
 
Faith1960 said:
I’m still trying to reconcile science that says there was never fewer than 10,000 people on earth and the Church that says Adam and Eve were the first people. Can somebody please help me?
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**It is my understanding that the modern human race had its origins from a single female in Africa. Of course there was a large population of proto-humans.
Eve could not have survived on her own.

Many Biblical ideas are confirmed by science. For instance the Bible says that creation had a beginning. For a long time science denied this, but now we have the “big-bang” theory of the origin of the universe. **
 
jeffrey_erwin said:
**It is my understanding that the modern human race had its origins from a single female in Africa. Of course there was a large population of proto-humans.
Eve could not have survived on her own.

Many Biblical ideas are confirmed by science. For instance the Bible says that creation had a beginning. For a long time science denied this, but now we have the “big-bang” theory of the origin of the universe. **
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Would that be considered polygenism?
 
I found another site. I think it’s a good Catholic site but take exception to this: It says that Neanderthals show “no clear evidence they were human.”
BUT Neanderthals mated with humans. Doesn’t that make them human?

Also, it says " It’s possible that God evolved the early hominids to a state advanced enough to be endowed with a rational soul and then infused a human soul on two of them. If this is true then the first rational hominids were Adam and Eve our first parents."

That’s what makes most sense to me but is that polygenism or not?

saintaquinas.com/common_questions.html
 
Faith1960 said:
I found another site. I think it’s a good Catholic site but take exception to this: It says that Neanderthals show “no clear evidence they were human.”
BUT Neanderthals mated with humans. Doesn’t that make them human?

Also, it says " It’s possible that God evolved the early hominids to a state advanced enough to be endowed with a rational soul and then infused a human soul on two of them. If this is true then the first rational hominids were Adam and Eve our first parents."

That’s what makes most sense to me but is that polygenism or not?

saintaquinas.com/common_questions.html
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Although “officially,” the Neanderthal are not called human, I’d say that if they could mate with Cro-Magnon (human), then they could be nothing but human.

On your second point, technically that would be polygenism, spiritually it would not. Souls do not fossilize!

ICXC NIKA.
 
GEddie said:
Although “officially,” the Neanderthal are not called human, I’d say that if they could mate with Cro-Magnon (human), then they could be nothing but human.

On your second point, technically that would be polygenism, spiritually it would not. Souls do not fossilize!

ICXC NIKA.
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So is this site right or wrong and does it contradict our faith or not?
 
GEddie said:
Although “officially,” the Neanderthal are not called human, I’d say that if they could mate with Cro-Magnon (human), then they could be nothing but human.
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Is being able to mate with humans what makes a creature, human?
 
Faith1960 said:
Is being able to mate with humans what makes a creature, human?
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I’m not able to define humanhood, however, it seems that is a better benchmark than physical characteristics of a being for whom only bones remain.

ICXC NIKA
 
I’ve been doing a lot of research and one site says one thing, a priest says another, another site says something else.
 
genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/

This is an interesting article, It states " According to one theory, Neanderthals, Denisovans, and all modern humans are all descended from the ancient human Homo heidelbergensis."
Note that it says a theory. Apparently modern humans have from 1 to 4% Neanderthal DNA.

It wouldnt be polygenism, because Neanderthals and modern humans ( Cro-Magnons) would be descended from a common ancestor.
But it’s all theory: guesswork.

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Viki63 said:
genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/

This is an interesting article, It states " According to one theory, Neanderthals, Denisovans, and all modern humans are all descended from the ancient human Homo heidelbergensis."
Note that it says a theory. Apparently modern humans have from 1 to 4% Neanderthal DNA.

It wouldnt be polygenism, because Neanderthals and modern humans ( Cro-Magnons) would be descended from a common ancestor.
But it’s all theory: guesswork.

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But are we all the same species?
 
Faith is primary.
It decides in whom we should trust.
And this is decided by our hearts, observing their works.
If one holds things, power, honour, and pleasure to be of greater value, one will trust in what the world teaches.
If one chooses love, one will look to Jesus and His church.
In what truly matters, if it comes to making a choice, choose to follow Him rather than what the world teaches.
Choosing Jesus, does not divorce one from the truth.
Quite the contrary, everything is revealed in a new light.
 
(name removed by moderator), you’re the one who answered in red bold type, right?
 
Faith1960 said:
Polygenism= a pool of people rather than just two, Adam and Eve. Catholics aren’t allowed to believe in polygenism.
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Is this correct? I believe popygenism is the idea that different races/groups have different origins. If we can trace all humans back to the same population, that would be to my mind one origin.

If each race is really a separate “species” in a sense that Africans evolved from proto-humans in Africa, and Europeans evolved from proto-humans in Europe, and Asians evolved separately from proto-humans in Asia, that would be polygenism. But if all humans can trace their ancestry back to the same population of first humans (not necessarily two people), that is monogenism.

Going from that, if there were two individuals who made the small but important leap to becoming human among a population of proto-humans (not necessarily reproductively separated, but in terms of the soul), and if their genes and rational level of being spread throughout the population such that all humans today are descended from them (seems possible given that half of America can apparentl claim Martha Washington as an ancestor… yes, yes, exaggeration), then I see no polygenism or anything contradictory in that.
 
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