10 Lost Tribes

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especially ludicrous since there were no European nations at the time the northern and southern kingdoms split and the 10 tribes got lost in the first place.
That is correct. The lost tribes didn’t “settled in European nations” in the sense that there were already governments in place in those lands and they just moved in, they had settled in Europe giving rise to the European peoples of today is what is meant.
 
It’s a lot more likely that many Europeans have some Jewish ancestry thanks to good old conversion and intermarriage, than that there are ten lost tribes running around in Scotland.

For example: My mother, thanks to her French/German side, looks exactly like a Jew from Odessa, for the very good reason that a lot of Jews from Odessa emigrated there from the same area of France as her French/German side (which was probably composed of Jews who converted). All of which led to the super-amusing situation of some guy in Odessa asking my mom (who doesn’t speak Ukrainian) for directions. Hee!

But then, as soon as anybody starts poking into Celtic origins, they usually start by throwing out their brains and replacing them with hefty helpings of “wouldn’t that be cool” and “it could work”. 🙂

Mintaka, proud possessor and stater in public of many half-baked Celtic theories. Alas that she tends to find facts proving them wrong about a week after she mouths off in public. 🙂
 
My wife is descended from the lost tribes, that’s why I got her a Garmin GPS for Christmas.
 
Yes, that is correct, there was more than one nation of people known as Scythians. In the first century, Josephus noted: “Magog founded those that from him were called Magogites, but who by the Greeks called Scythians.” The descendants of Magog then, formed a branch of the eastern Scythians.
In his book Antiquities of the Jews, the Jewish historian and scholar Josephus identifies Magog with the Scythians, but this name seems to have been used generically in antiquity for a number of peoples north of the Black Sea (which may be the result of the confusion).
Of the several nations were known as Scythians; at least one was European in race (these later migrated into central Europe, and were not descendants of Magog or Ashkenaz), and at least two Asiatic races. In fact, according to The Cambridge Ancient History, vol 3: 195, many of the Scythians which came against Assyria were Mongoloid.
Scholars generally classify the Scythian language as a member of the Eastern Iranian languages, and the Scythians as a branch of the ancient Iranian peoples expanding into the steppe regions north of Greater Iran from around 1000 BC. According to Herodotus the ancient Persians called all the Scyths “Saca”:
The Sacae, or Scyths, were clad in trousers, and had on their heads tall stiff caps rising to a point. They bore the bow of their country and the dagger; besides which they carried the battle-axe, or sagaris. They were in truth Amyrgian Scythians, but the Persians called them Sacae, since that is the name which they give to all Scythians. The Bactrians and the Sacae had for leader Hystaspes, the son of Darius and of Atossa, the daughter of Cyrus.
Their principal tribe, the Royal Scyths, ruled the vast lands occupied by the nation as a whole (Herodotus .IV 20); and they called themselves Skolotoi. Oswald Szemerényi devotes a thorough discussion to the etymology of the word Scyth in his work “Four Old Iranian Ethnic Names: Scythian-Skudra-Sogdian-Saka”. The related words derive from *skuza, an ancient Indo-European word for archer, (cf. English shoot,) hence Iranian Ishkuzi = archers.
 
I’d have to disagree. Steven M. Collins, in his article The Israelite Origin of the Scythians, points out numerous similarities between the cultures of the Scythians and the ancient Hebrews.
Let’s address that article piece-by-piece:

-One thing that the author mentions is the ‘similarity’ between the word ‘Sacian’ and Isaac’s name (which he does seem to repeat time and time again, just so the reader wouldn’t forget that), which we have addressed in our former posts.

-Collins mentions the Scythian aversion to pork and connects it to the Israelite dietary trait:
Herodotus also recorded that the Scythians recoiled from using or keeping swine. He wrote: “They [the Scythians] make no offerings of pigs, nor will they keep them in their country”. Since the Scythians not only refused to allow pigs to be used in sacrificial purposes, but banned them entirely from their territory, it is evident that the Scythians did not eat the flesh of swine either. This avoidance of swines flesh is a characteristic Torah-based, Israelite dietary trait.
However, he forgets to say that Herodotus, just after mentioning the Scythian aversion to pork, also mentioned that Scythians drank their slain enemy’s blood and made various items with their enemy’s body parts (there is no record of a parallel Israelite custom, unless they’ve stooped into such low levels during their exile):
64…Such are the sacrifices which are established among them; but of swine these make no use, nor indeed are they wont to keep them at all in their land.
65. That which relates to war is thus ordered with them:–When a Scythian has slain his first man, he drinks some of his blood: and of all those whom he slays in the battle he bears the heads to the king; for if he has brought a head he shares in the spoil which they have taken, but otherwise not. And he takes off the skin of the head by cutting it round about the ears and then taking hold of the scalp and shaking it off; afterwards he scrapes off the flesh with the rib of an ox, and works the skin about with his hands; and when he has thus tempered it, he keeps it as a napkin to wipe the hands upon, and hangs it from the bridle of the horse on which he himself rides, and takes pride in it; for whosoever has the greatest number of skins to wipe the hands upon, he is judged to be the bravest man. Many also make cloaks to wear of the skins stripped off, sewing them together like shepherds’ cloaks of skins; and many take the skin together with the finger-nails off the right hands of their enemies when they are dead, and make them into covers for their quivers: now human skin it seems is both thick and glossy in appearance, more brilliantly white than any other skin. Many also take the skins off the whole bodies of men and stretch them on pieces of wood and carry them about on their horses…
Collins then goes:
Also, Herodotus recorded that the Scythians did not tolerate their own people indulging in idolatrous Greek religious ceremonies. Herodotus cited two cases to make his point. The first involved a Scythian named Anacharsis, who secretly celebrated rites honoring the mother of the gods and wore images (i.e. idols) as part of the rites[12]. Another Scythian saw this and reported him to the Scythian King, Saulius, who personally executed Anacharsis for indulging in an idolatrous Greek custom. Notice that the king who executed Anacharsis bore a characteristic Israelite name: Saul-ius. Saul, of course, was the name of the first Israelite King, who was the predecessor of King David. Herodotus also cites the account of the Scythian King, Scyles, who was executed by his own brother after Scyles participated in a hedonistic Greek festival honoring Bacchus.
Saulios’ name actually may have a more mundane etymology than is proposed here. One explanation is that Saulios’ name comes from Pontic Indo-Aryan “saul-” which means ‘sun’, reconstructed in Proto Indo-European as “**sawel-*” (compare with Vedic “sûrya-”). In Hebrew, the name ‘Sha’ul’ means ‘asked for’.

From what we know of the Scythian religion, the basic pantheon consisted of seven gods, which may have been divided into three ranks:. In the first rank was Tabiti (the Greek Hestia, goddess of fire and the hearth), in the second were Papaeus (Zeus) and Api (Gaia), and in the third were Oetosyrus or Goetosyrus (Apollo); Artimpasa, or Argimpasa (Aphrodite, perhaps identical with the Iranian Arti); and two gods whose Scythian names are not known but who have been identified with Herakles and Ares (it is possible that the first of these unnamed gods were identical to the primeval deity Targitaus, son of Papaeus and Api and the forefather of the Scythians and the royal dynasty, since Targitaus is also identified with Herakles). Besides these ‘basic’ gods, there are also gods specific to and worshipped by a specific tribe.

The Royal Scyths (the ‘Head Tribe’ of sorts) for example, the most powerful of the Scythian tribes, worshiped Thagimasadas, identified with Poseidon by Herodotus. As for cult leaders, the one on which we have the most information about is the Enarees, a group of priests connected with the worship of Artimpasa, who usually practiced divination and may have done ritual transvestism in their cultic practices. The King may have also been an important, if not the chief performer of cultic practices.

CONTINUED…
 
The rivers emptying into the Black Sea formerly had names such as the Ister, Tyras, Borysthenes and Tanais. After the Scythians entered that region, these rivers were given new Israelite names based on the name of the Israelite tribe of Dan. The new names of these rivers were the Danube, the Dniester, the Dnieper and the Don. The Israelite tribe of Dan had a tendency to re-name geographical locations after its own tribal name (Joshua 19:47). Colliers Encyclopedia confirms there is no doubt the Scythians gave these rivers their modern names. It states: The names of the rivers Danube, Dnestr, Dnepr and Don are Scythian. These rivers are known by these Scythian names to this day on modern maps, and all these Scythian names are based on the Israelite tribe of Dan.
The name of the River Don may have come from an assumed/reconstructed unattested Scythian word “*dānu” meaning ‘water’ or ‘river’, and with Ossetic “don” and Avestan “dānu-”.

However, the names of the Dnieper and Diester Rivers come from Sarmatian Iranic (The Dnieper’s name comes from the Sarmatian “Dānu apara” meaning ‘the river on the far side’ while the Diester’s come from “*Dānu nazdya”, the close river). The old name of the Diester River, Tyras, comes from Scythian “*tûra” and means ‘rapid’.

The name of the River Danube comes from Celtic “*dānu” (to flow); its Ancient Greek name, Istros comes from Thracian ‘strong’ or ‘swift’, akin to Sanskrit “is.iras” meaning ‘swift’ and Greek “ierós” meaning ‘strong, sacred’.

By contrast, the name of Dan is said to come from “Dananni”, ‘to judge’. So I would explain this as a linguistic false friend.
As noted above, the Scythians lived in the region of the Black Sea and Caucasus Mountains. By the time of the first century B.C., a Caucasus Mountain kingdom was named Iberia and its kings routinely bore the dynastic name of Pharesmenes. The Iberians were known to be Scythians or Scythian allies.
The term Iberia is based on the name of Eber, the namesake of the Hebrews. This same name, Iberia, had previously been placed upon the modern region of Spain and Portugal, which were formerly part of the Phoenician Empire of Israel, Tyre and Sidon. The name Pharesmenes includes the exact name of Phares, the ancestor of King David, to whom the promise of royal descendants was given.
What is called as the Caucasian Iberia was then known to its natives as Kartli (present-day eastern and southern Georgia), the origin of which comes from Kartlos, the legendary ancestor of the Georgians. The name Iberian may have come from the the tribe of Tiberani (one of the tribes who inhabited the area; collectively they were known as [Eastern] Iberians).
Another links the Caucasian Iberians (and the name) with Tubal-Cain (Genesis 4: 22; Cain’s descendant and the son of Lamech and Zillah).

As for the Iberian Peninsula (the name Iberia is commonly used by the Greeks while the Romans referred to it as Hispania), its name may have come from the Iberian word “Iber”, perhaps meaning ‘river’ (attested in the name of the Ebro River, which in Latin is known as ‘Iberus Flumen’). Other than the name, it is not known whether the two are connected with each other.

The name Pharasmanes was said to be originally borne by the first king of Caucasian Iberia, who ousted Azo, a ruler allegedly left by Alexander the Great to govern the country; however it does not seem to have any connection to Phares’ (Hebrew Pharez, Pיrez, Perez, Parez) name as Pharasmanes is the Greek transliteration of the name Pharnavaz (also spelled Pharnabaz, P’arnavaz, P’arnawaz, or Farnavaz).
 
The rivers emptying into the Black Sea formerly had names such as the Ister, Tyras, Borysthenes and Tanais. After the Scythians entered that region, these rivers were given new Israelite names based on the name of the Israelite tribe of Dan. The new names of these rivers were the Danube, the Dniester, the Dnieper and the Don. The Israelite tribe of Dan had a tendency to re-name geographical locations after its own tribal name (Joshua 19:47). Colliers Encyclopedia confirms there is no doubt the Scythians gave these rivers their modern names. It states: The names of the rivers Danube, Dnestr, Dnepr and Don are Scythian. These rivers are known by these Scythian names to this day on modern maps, and all these Scythian names are based on the Israelite tribe of Dan.
The name of the River Don may have come from an assumed/reconstructed unattested Scythian word “*dānu” meaning ‘water’ or ‘river’, and with Ossetic “don” and Avestan “dānu-”.

However, the names of the Dnieper and Diester Rivers come from Sarmatian Iranic (The Dnieper’s name comes from the Sarmatian “Dānu apara” meaning ‘the river on the far side’ while the Diester’s come from “*Dānu nazdya”, the close river). The old name of the Diester River, Tyras, comes from Scythian “*tûra” and means ‘rapid’.

The name of the River Danube comes from Celtic “*dānu” (to flow); its Ancient Greek name, Istros comes from Thracian ‘strong’ or ‘swift’, akin to Sanskrit “is.iras” meaning ‘swift’ and Greek “ierós” meaning ‘strong, sacred’.

By contrast, the name of Dan is said to come from “Dananni”, ‘to judge’. So I would explain this as a linguistic false friend.
As noted above, the Scythians lived in the region of the Black Sea and Caucasus Mountains. By the time of the first century B.C., a Caucasus Mountain kingdom was named Iberia and its kings routinely bore the dynastic name of Pharesmenes. The Iberians were known to be Scythians or Scythian allies.
The term Iberia is based on the name of Eber, the namesake of the Hebrews. This same name, Iberia, had previously been placed upon the modern region of Spain and Portugal, which were formerly part of the Phoenician Empire of Israel, Tyre and Sidon. The name Pharesmenes includes the exact name of Phares, the ancestor of King David, to whom the promise of royal descendants was given.
What is called as the Caucasian Iberia was then known to its natives as Kartli (present-day eastern and southern Georgia), the origin of which comes from Kartlos, the legendary ancestor of the Georgians. The name Iberian may have come from the the tribe of Tiberani (one of the tribes who inhabited the area; collectively they were known as [Eastern] Iberians).
Another links the Caucasian Iberians (and the name) with Tubal-Cain (Genesis 4: 22; Cain’s descendant and the son of Lamech and Zillah).

As for the Iberian Peninsula (the name Iberia is commonly used by the Greeks while the Romans referred to it as Hispania), its name may have come from the Iberian word “Iber”, perhaps meaning ‘river’ (attested in the name of the Ebro River, which in Latin is known as ‘Iberus Flumen’). Other than the name, it is not known whether the two are connected with each other.

The name Pharasmanes was said to be originally borne by the first king of Caucasian Iberia and the founder of the Pharnabazid Dynasty, who ousted Azo, a ruler allegedly left by Alexander the Great to govern the country; however it does not seem to have any connection to Phares’ (Hebrew Pharez, Pיrez, Perez, Parez) name as Pharasmanes is the Greek transliteration of the name Pharnavaz (also spelled Pharnabaz, P’arnavaz, P’arnawaz, or Farnavaz).
 
Originally Posted by inthecloud
It was been proven that the people of the Brittish Isles came form Northern Spain and Southern France.
By DNA testing.
Google Celts and Basques.
So I guess those angles, saxons, jutes, danes, and normans are all celts from hispania and gaul .
DNA testing done recently has revealed that the DNA imprinting of other european peoples on the population of the British Islands is very small. That the DNA of most Irish, Scots, Welsh and English tends to be similar to the peoples of nothern Spain southern France. So the Anglos/Saxon/Jutes, Danes and Normans genetic (name removed by moderator)rint tends to be minimal unless you are in the Yorkshire region were people are genetically very northern German.
The study started with the idea that the Brits were related with the Nordics but as a huge surprise revealed that they did not as whole. That the Brits are genetically more Basque/Celtic than Nordic. Go figure.

Is hard to argue with DNA. testing 🤷

Also it revealed that british women are more “Nordic” than Men genetically who are more Celtic/Basque. That is being explained by the locals exchanging women with the Nordic settlers. That might be the origin of the blonde bombshell. 😉
 
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inthecloud:
Father Georges Lemaitre is da man.

…mightn’t that be:
Father Georges Lemaitre is da big bang man.

Just a thought. 🙂
 
hmmmm… I was taught that the 10 tribes had intermarried and dispersed because of the Babylonian captivity and some did return to Israel only to be called Gentiles… since they were not pagans, but did worship the same God as the Israelites… only they weren’t permitted to celebrate the Festival of Weeks (for example) where a pilgrimage was required by the Jews.

So for the 12 tribes to be reunited now would encompass everyone… Gods message of salvation does include everyone… offered first to the Israelites… then to everybody else.
 
Just for fun and to be fair, let’s also deconstruct the evidence given in this site which purports similarities between Hebrew and Japanese words:
Daber: in Hebrew, to speak.
Daberu: Japanese for chatting.
The word ‘Daberu’ (駄弁る), which means ‘to chat’ or ‘to engage in idle talk’, is an (archaic) inflection of the word ‘Daben’ (駄弁), which means the same thing.

However, the one fatal strike against this connection is: the word ‘Gaijin’ is a Sino-Japanese (漢語, ‘Kango’, lit. ‘Chinese [Han] Word’; refers to the part of Japanese vocabulary originating from Chinese or has been created from elements borrowed from it) type of word and not an actual native Japanese word (和語, ‘Wago’).

In fact, 60 percent of present-day Japanese consists of Kango and forms about 18 percent of terms used in everyday speech.

The rest consists of Gairaigo (外来語), loan words from different languages, mainly English, Portuguese, Dutch, German and French.
There is also ‘Wasei-Eigo’ (和製英語, 'Japanese-made English), which are usually contractions, abbreviations or portmanteaus of actual English words, English words having a different sense and meaning than they have in actual English, or original English terms.
Add to that onomatopoeias and ‘Gitaigo’ (擬態語; Mimetic words that represent non-auditory senses, psychological states or bodily feelings that could not fit into the category of Onomatopoeia).
Finally, the small remainder that remains consists of ‘Wago’.
Goi: a non-Hebrew or foreigner.
Gai’Jeen: prefix for a foreigner, a non-Japanese.
1.) The term ‘Gaijin’ (外人) is presently used as a term for ‘foreigner’, whereas this was not always so.

One of the first attestations of this word comes from the early 13th century from the Heike Monogatari, where in this case, gaijin is used for outsiders or potential enemies.:

外人もなき所に兵具をとゝのへ
(Transliteration: Gaijin mo naki tokoro ni heigu wo totonoe)
…Assembling arms where there are no gaijin…

Another early reference is in Renri Hishō (c. 1349) by Nijō Yoshimoto, where it is used to refer to a (Japanese) person who is a stranger, not a friend.
The Noh play Kurama tengu (鞍馬天狗) also has a dialog where gaijin also means an outsider/stranger or an unknown/unfamiliar person:

源平両家の童形たちのおのおのござ候ふに、かやうの外人は然るべからず候

(…Genpei-ryōke no dōgyō-tachi no onoono gozasōrō ni, kayou no gaijin wa shikaru bekarazu soro…)

…Since the children of both Genji (the Minamoto clan) and Heike (the Taira clan) are here, such a gaijin is not appropriate to stay together…

When the first Europeans (such as the Portuguese) entered Japan, they were known as ‘Nanbanjin’ (南蛮人, ‘Southern Barbarians’), since their ships came from the South. Heretofore, the Sino-Japanese term ‘Nanban’ (from Chinese ‘Nanman’) was used to designate (naturally) people from South and Southeast Asia, following a Chinese usage in which surrounding “barbarian” people in the four directions had each their own designation.

When the British arrived in the 17th century, they were referred to as ‘Kōmōjin’ (紅毛人, ‘Red-haired people’). When the Tokugawa Shogunate was forced to open contact with the West, the terms ‘Ijin’ (異人), a contraction of either ‘Ikokujin’ (異国人) or ‘Ihōjin’ (異邦人, both terms meaning ‘people from a different country’) became popular. (Interestingly enough, some Japanese Bible translations use ‘Ihōjin’ as the equivalent word for Gentiles instead of ‘Gaikokujin’)

The word ‘Gaikokujin’ (外国人) was only introduced and popularized by the Meiji government who united the feudal states in Japan as one nation, and this gradually replaced Ijin, Ikokujin and Ihōjin. While other terms fell out of use after World War II, Gaikokujin remained as the official government term for non-Japanese people (and a supposed contraction is also used in colloquial speech which became Gaijin).

2.) This word is also a ‘Kango’ and not a native Japanese word, thus this word couldn’t have been around before the Chinese influenced Japanese culture. See above.

3.) The Hebrew term ‘Goy’ (plural ‘Goyim’) literally means ‘Nations’ or ‘Peoples’ and while later commonly used as a generic name for non-Hebrews, is also earlier used in its original sense (‘nation’) as a term for the Israelites, such as in ‘goy gadol’, ‘a great nation’ (it is also used for non-human groups, such as swarms of locusts or other animals).
Kor: cold in Hebrew.
Koru: to freeze in Japanese.
This one, finally is a ‘Wago’. ‘Kooru’ (凍る-こおる; note the long ‘o’ sound) does mean ‘to freeze’.
However, before the post-war spelling reforms of Japanese, Kooru is written as ‘Kohoru’ (こほる). Between the 9th and 17th centuries, the /h/ sound in Japanese was most likely pronounced as /ph/ or /f/, a voiceless labial fricative sound (before that, it may have been likely sounded like /p/). Thus, ‘kohoru’ may have sounded like ‘koforu’ (or ‘koporu’) in Archaic and Late Old Japanese, which is quite a long way from Hebrew ‘kor’.

This lack of an /h/ sound in Old Japanese is the reason why Chinese characters which has an /h/ is rendered with a /k/ sound in Japanese. Take for example ‘花’ which in (Mandarin) Chinese is ‘hua1’ (Cantonese: ‘fa1’, Korean: ‘hoe1’, ‘hoa1’, ‘he1’), but in archaic Japanese is ‘kwa’ (presently this sound is pronounced as either ‘ka’, ‘kya’ or ‘ke’), and why characters with a /f/ or /p/ sound is rendered with an /h/ (法 Mandarin: ‘fa3’, Cantonese ‘faat3’, Korean: ‘pep’, Archaic Japanese: ‘hafu’ or ‘hofu’, Modern Japanese: ‘hou’).
Knesset: Parliament in Hebrew.
Kensei: Constitutional government in Japanese.
Kensei (憲政) is a ‘Kango’ and is not native Japanese. See above.
 
To continue with Collins’ article:
The Massagetae and Queen Tomyris:
When Cyrus the Great reigned over the Persian Empire, he invaded Scythian tribes living near the Caspian Sea circa 528 B.C. The primary Scythian tribe was named the Massagetae, and they had a Queen named Tomyris. Consider these names. The leading Scythian tribe known as the Massa-getae bore a striking similarity to the name of the leading Israelite tribe of Manasseh.
The Massagetae were an Iranian people with some similarities to the Scythians (such as in fashions and mode of living). According to Herodotus, when a Massagetean man grows old, he was usually taken by his relatives and sacrificed along with some cattle; the flesh is then boiled and eaten. By contrast, a man who dies of disease is not eaten, but buried in the ground. Milk is what they chiefly drink, and they live on their herds and fish (they do not sow grain, perhaps owing to their lifestyle).

Each man had one woman, yet their wives were held in common, thus differentiating them from the Scythians. They worshipped only one god, the Sun, and sacrificed a horse in its honor (‘under the notion of giving to the swiftest of the gods the swiftest of all mortal creatures’, as Herodotus notes).

Many claim that the name Massagetae means ‘Great Saka’, yet Herodotus may not have been referring to this tribe by their actual (Iranic) name, but by a concocted Greek name (this site persuasively says that theMassagetae was a Saka tribe, called the Saka Homavarka in the article itself).
Also, King David was promised in I Kings 8:25 that his progeny would perpetually include rulers over the people of Israel (i.e. the ten tribes of Israel). In Genesis 48:14-16, the term Israel was primarily placed on the leading tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh. Tamar was a common and famous name among females in King Davids lineage. The mother of Pharez (Davids ancestor) was named Tamar (Genesis 38:6-29), Davids own daughter was named Tamar (II Samuel 13), and a granddaughter of David was also named Tamar (II Samuel 14:27).
If the Massagetae were the Israelite tribe of Manasseh, a leading tribe of the ten tribes of Israel, biblical prophecy regarding King Davids descendants being rulers over Israel would argue that this tribe would have royalty descended from King David. At the time of King Cyrus invasion of the Massagetae and other Scythian tribes, the Massagetaes Queen was named Tomyris. The first two syllables of her name are: Tomyr- followed by a final syllable. The similarity of the Israelite name Tamar and the Scythian/Massagetae Queen named Tomyris is obvious and striking. When the vowels of the names are removed, the consonants are identical: T-M-R.
The above examples show that names of King Davids lineage were found among the rulers of the Scythians, whether they were in the Scythians western regions (the Caucasus Mountains by the Black Sea) or their eastern regions where the Massagetae lived east of the Caspian Sea. The presence of names from King Davids lineage among the Scythian tribes confirms that the Scythians were descended from the ten tribes of Israel, as Gods promise indicated Davids progeny would specifically rule over the ten tribes of Israel throughout history.
In Hebrew, ‘Tamar’ means ‘Date Palm’, (The edible) ‘Date’, or just ‘Palm Tree’. Tomyris’ name is, admittedly, of unknown origin (however I did find a reference in the web that shows a quite similar name: ‘Tamura’. This is said to be one of many names recorded in classical Greek inscriptions from towns near the Black Sea which may indicate Scythian or Sarmatian influence; however, this might just be a false friend). However the method Collins employs here is rather weak, in my opinion (having similar consonants in a name doesn’t necessarily imply a connection).
 
It is assumed by some that the Scythians migrated into the Black Sea region from Central Asia. Historical evidence easily shows that assumption to be incorrect. The Scythians were famous in the ancient world for their magnificent gold artwork. If the Scythians originated in Central Asia, their self-portrayals should show Scythians with Mongol or Oriental faces. This is not the case. On this gold artwork, the Scythians uniformly depict themselves as Semites who are often bearded. Illustrations of Scythians in the McClintock and Strongs Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological and Ecclesiastical Literature uniformly depict Scythian men, women and youth as Caucasian (or Semitic) individuals.
I don’t have McClintlock and Strong’s book with me so I couldn’t see for myself if that’s true or not.

Sporting a beard, however is not a purely Semitic custom (and thus, is not a telltale sign of Semitism). Ancient Greeks (up until the time of Alexander the Great, who introduced the custom of smooth shaving to his soldiers; eventually this fashion spread throughout the Greek world), Mesopotamians (Assyrian, Babylonian, Chaldean, Median and ancient Persian) and ancient Indians usually sported a beard and at times, allowed them to go grow long and took great care of it.

There is no denying, however that Scythians make great goldwork:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/Solokhacomb.gif

A golden comb from a 4th century Solokha royal burial mound

The Scythians worked in a wide variety of materials such as gold, wood, leather, bone, bronze, iron, silver and electrum. As nomads, the Scythians worked in decorative materials for use on their horses, tents and wagons and many of the pieces are small so as to be portable. Earlier pieces reflected animal style traditions:

http://www.mythinglinks.org/ScythianGoat~Hermitage~r75.jpg
Reclining Goat from 6th Century BC

As the Scythians came in contact with the Greeks (5th-4th century BC), their artwork influenced Greek art, and was influenced by it; also many pieces, especially in metal, were produced by Greek craftsmen who had adapted Greek styles to the tastes and subject-matter of the wealthy Scythian market, and probably often worked in Scythian territory.



Scythian Archers, 400-350 BC, from Kul-Oba

As the Scythians prospered through trade with the Greeks, they settled down and started farming. They also established permanent settlements such as a site in Belsk, Ukraine believed to the Scythian capital Gelonus with craft workshops and Greek pottery prominent in the ruins. Felt appliqué wall hangings have been found at the tombs at Pazryzk displaying the Great Goddess or anthropomorphic beasts. Other of these decorations show geometric or animal motifs. Archaeologists have also uncovered felt rugs as well as well crafted tools and domestic utensils. Clothing uncovered by archaeologists has also been well made many trimmed by embroidery and appliqué designs. Wealthy people wore clothes covered by gold embossed plaques.

Although gold was widely used by the ruling elite of the various Scythian tribes, the predominant material for the various animal forms was bronze. The bulk of these items were used to decorate horse harness, leather belts & personal clothing. In some cases these bronze animal figures by being sewn onto hard leather jerkins & belts, helped to act as armour.

The use of the animal form went further than just ornament, these seemingly imbuing the owner of the item with similar prowess & powers of the animal which was depicted. Thus the use of these forms extended onto the accoutrements of warfare, be they swords, daggers, scabbards, or axes.

The primary weapon of this horse riding culture was the bow, and a special case had been developed to carry the delicate but very powerful composite bow. This case, “the gorytus”, had a separate container on the outside which acted as a quiver, & the whole was often decorated with animal scenes or scenes depicting daily life on the steppes. There was a marked following of Greek elements after the 4th century BC, when Greek craftsmen were commissioned to decorate many of the daily use articles.
 
Shepherd’s Chapel is bad news.

He teaches that there were two creations and that the original sin was not the disobedience of the fruit of the tree, but that Eve had sex with the snake and that Cain and Able were twins born of different fathers. Cain of the devil in the serpent and Able from Adam.
http://bestsmileys.com/scared/3.gif...silly/6.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/silly/7.gif I knew he was goofy, but, sheesh! That’s worse than I thought!!http://bestsmileys.com/surprised/4.gif
How do I know? I sat through two or three of their “Bible studies”.
 
So I guess those angles, saxons, jutes, danes, and normans are all celts from hispania and gaul .
It’s been several years since I read up on all this, but to the best of my recollection, the Celts started out somewhere in the Carpathian mountains. Over the centuries, they moved westward, some being called Gauls (gaul, gael) and staying 'round what is now France, some continuing westward. From the part of Spain called Galicia (gael again), some sailed northward and wound up in the British Isles.

Again, it’s been a lo-o-o-o-ong time, so please forgive any memory lapses.

On a side note, I also read in How the Irish Saved Civilization that traces of monasteries founded by the followers of St. Columbkille after the fall of the Roman Empire have been found as far east as Kiev: the migration in reverse!
 
Just for fun and to be fair, let’s also deconstruct the evidence given in this site which purports similarities between Hebrew and Japanese words…
Several years ago, I ran across a fascinating little book about Jews in China. Evidently, a European bishop visited China some time in the 19th century and found a community of folks with surnames like Lee (Levi?), Kan (Kohen?), Dan (the tribe), etc. While they looked pretty much ethnically Chinese, they considered themselves Jews. Their neighbors called them “the people of the sinew,” for the parts removed in the production of kosher meat.

This community had been separated from the rest of the Jewish world since before the time of the Maccabees, since Chanukah was unknown to them. They celebrated all the biblical festivals, and their most festive children’s celebration was Purim.

Apparently, this group either assimilated or died out over time, but the bishop who visited documented their way of life pretty thoroughly.

So maybe the jump from China to Japan isn’t such a big one? 🙂
 
Several years ago, I ran across a fascinating little book about Jews in China. Evidently, a European bishop visited China some time in the 19th century and found a community of folks with surnames like Lee (Levi?), Kan (Kohen?), Dan (the tribe), etc. While they looked pretty much ethnically Chinese, they considered themselves Jews. Their neighbors called them “the people of the sinew,” for the parts removed in the production of kosher meat.

This community had been separated from the rest of the Jewish world since before the time of the Maccabees, since Chanukah was unknown to them. They celebrated all the biblical festivals, and their most festive children’s celebration was Purim.

Apparently, this group either assimilated or died out over time, but the bishop who visited documented their way of life pretty thoroughly.

So maybe the jump from China to Japan isn’t such a big one? 🙂
Japan’s first verifiable Chinese visitor was the Buddhist missionary Hui Shen, whose 499 AD visit to an island east of China known as Fusang (扶桑, typically identified as referring to either modern-day Eastern Japan or to the Americas) was described in the 7th-century Liang Shu.

Before (and of course after) that, Japan, or at least the western portions of it, is already known to the Chinese, who wrote about it (the “Queen of Yamataikoku” Himiko even sent an envoy to the Cao Wei Kingdom [220-265 AD]).

It is said that a clan named Hata (秦) was active in Japan during the Yamato Period (250–710); they were foreign, as they came from the Korean kingdom of Baekje, many believe the Hata only passed through Baekje and were originally from somewhere further away. Some believe they were descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes; however more likely they were merely Chinese Jews.
 
It is said that a clan named Hata (秦) was active in Japan during the Yamato Period (250–710); they were foreign, as they came from the Korean kingdom of Baekje, many believe the Hata only passed through Baekje and were originally from somewhere further away. Some believe they were descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes; however more likely they were merely Chinese Jews.
If I might supplement this, this notion that the Hata Clan are descendants of the Lost Ten Tribes are a minority opinion and is far from widely accepted or even seriously considered in formal scholarship. However it is central to the beliefs of several Japanese New Religions and to the writings of various contemporary Japanese antiquarians. While there are tantalising indications that the Hata were Semitic or Central Asian in origin, most serious scholars have not jumped to the conclusion that they were definitely Jewish, or among the Lost Tribes.

Though there is a Chinese Jewish Community (Kaifeng Jews) who existed at Kaifeng from at least the Southern Song Dynasty (960-1279) until the late nineteenth century. They were postulated to be descendants of Levites and Kohanim who were disenchanted by Ezra’s prohibition of taking foreign wives and encouraging tribal ‘intermarriage’ and fled, eventually arriving to Persia and then to India, where they resided for centuries before moving to China during the later Han Dynasty (206 BC-220 AD).

From this time until the latter part of the Tang Dynasty, the Jews slowly dispersed throughout China, taking Chinese wives, and siring “half-Chinese, half-barbarian” children. In the “Great Anti-Buddhist Persecution” (845-46), Buddhism and other foreign religions—Zoroastrianism, Manichaeanism, Nestorian Christianity, Islam and Judaism—were forced from China proper back to its outlying territories under the supervision of the Khitan tribes (including the Ningixa region) and all foreign temples were burnt to make way for their Confucian and Taoist counterparts, the native religions of China. It was not until the early Northern Song Dynasty, when Emperor Taizong, a man with a great thirst for knowledge, sent out envoys to every corner of Asia to learn from and recruit foreign scholars, did the Jews return to China.

If this story is true, they would not in a sense fit the category of ‘part of the Ten Lost Tribes’ and ‘ancestors of a given country’ since they were ‘assimilated’.
 
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