10 Pro-Gun Myths, Shot Down

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And what exactly are the chances of being robbed? At what trivial point does it become an unrealistic fear? (And note that I used quotation marks around the word.)

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My nearest neighbor’s house was robbed. So I don’t think the fear is all that trivial or unrealistic.

But for some, it’s not just a matter of robbers. In the part of the country where I live, there are feral hogs that can kill livestock and people. There are mountain lions, bears, coyotes and feral dogs. Also, armadillos are a problem. They won’t attack a person, but they dig holes in fields very quickly that can cause a vehicle crash. I shoot them on sight.

Why should anyone be rendered incapable of defending himself, his livestock and others from feral animals?
 
Arm the teachers.
Who’s to say that a teacher can’t flip-out and act as a mass killer? What about the gun on a teacher being stolen and used by a student, or where a student or two overcome a teacher, take his/her gun, and go on a rampage within the classroom?

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There were no bloody pitched battles, because there were no christian states to support large christian armies for a few centuries, but do you honestly believe that a christian would stand by and do nothing while, for example, a child is killed in front of them? Where is the love of Christ in that? Did you only read my comments and not the words of Christ?
But there was no recorded resistance at all - armed or unarmed - and some record would surely exist if Christians were indeed defending themselves.

As for not standing by and watching children being killed - St Agnes was only 13, and the adults around her to a man and woman appear to have done exactly nothing in terms of defending her apart from one of her judges who only went as far as to refuse to condemn her to death.

They surely weren’t all totally lacking the love of Christ, they merely recognised that defensive killing is not necessarily a duty, at least not always.
 
I did not say nobody should own one. I said the best we can hope for is that all gun owners will legitimately pass effective gun control checks.
Please be honest with me. Presently all legitimate gun owners do pass checks. Yet you still want more. You will not be happy until nobody can own a gun.

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My nearest neighbor’s house was robbed. So I don’t think the fear is all that trivial or unrealistic.

But for some, it’s not just a matter of robbers. In the part of the country where I live, there are feral hogs that can kill livestock and people. There are mountain lions, bears, coyotes and feral dogs. Also, armadillos are a problem. They won’t attack a person, but they dig holes in fields very quickly that can cause a vehicle crash. I shoot them on sight.

Why should anyone be rendered incapable of defending himself, his livestock and others from feral animals?
But if people are just as capable of committing crime - or doing harm - with other weapons or ordinary everyday items as with guns - which is what a lot of pro-gunners claim - then they are equally capable of defending themselves with those same other weapons or everyday items.

I think there is a good reason why people (including law enforcement and defence professionals who know whereof they speak) look to guns rather than knives etc for defence, and that reason is that they can do more damage. The flip side being they are more dangerous when used offensively as well as defensively. Stats seem to show that any given gun, whether legally or illegally owned, is more likely to be used offensively than in defense. Of course stats can be skewed.
 
Who’s to say that a teacher can’t flip-out and act as a mass killer? What about the gun on a teacher being stolen and used by a student, or where a student or two overcome a teacher, take his/her gun, and go on a rampage within the classroom?
A cop can ‘flip-out’, so I guess that you propose that the police be disarmed over that fear?
 
A cop can ‘flip-out’, so I guess that you propose that the police be disarmed over that fear?
There’s a big difference from being a teacher and a peace officer. Due to statistics, the specially trained officers are unlikely to flip-out while on duty, but the untrained teacher is more susceptible…

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There’s a big difference from being a teacher and a peace officer. Due to statistics, the specially trained officers are unlikely to flip-out while on duty, but the untrained teacher is more susceptible…

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What statistics are their on flip out rates between police and teachers. If you are going to involve that as a defense of your position, I would like to see the statistics that you are looking at?
 
What statistics are their on flip out rates between police and teachers. If you are going to involve that as a defense of your position, I would like to see the statistics that you are looking at?
Observations of where a police officer on duty flips-out vs the regular citizens, based on news articles. Also in studying the process of “socialization” as a professional psychologists, where coping mechanisms values are well known to differ across careers.

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There’s a big difference from being a teacher and a peace officer. Due to statistics, the specially trained officers are unlikely to flip-out while on duty, but the untrained teacher is more susceptible.
No one is suggesting we just start handing out guns to teachers and say “Here. Defend yourself and your students.”

Teachers, like peace officers would need to be properly trained in the use of firearms. it should start when they are in college. Every would-be teacher would be required to complete a firearms training course and qualify on a shooting range before they could graduate.

And then, just like they already have to take continuing education classes to maintain their teaching certifications, they would periodically be required to requalify on the range as well.
 
Who’s to say that a teacher can’t flip-out and act as a mass killer? What about the gun on a teacher being stolen and used by a student, or where a student or two overcome a teacher, take his/her gun, and go on a rampage within the classroom?

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When States pass laws allowing concealed carry, people like you start sounding off in the media with all sorts of imaginary predictions. Some of the typical ones are, “There will be OK Corral type shootouts in the street.” “People will settle neighborhood disagreements with a gun.” “People will shoot the driver that cuts them off in traffic.”, but then lo’ and behold, those who get conceal carry permits are among the most trustworthy and law abiding people in the State, so the imaginary scenarios never play out among them. They may continue to happen with the criminal element but that was happening anyways. I consider your imaginary scenarios above to be of the same caliber.
 
When States pass laws allowing concealed carry, people like you start sounding off in the media with all sorts of imaginary predictions. Some of the typical ones are, “There will be OK Corral type shootouts in the street.” “People will settle neighborhood disagreements with a gun.” “People will shoot the driver that cuts them off in traffic.”, but then lo’ and behold, those who get conceal carry permits are among the most trustworthy and law abiding people in the State, so the imaginary scenarios never play out among them. They may continue to happen with the criminal element but that was happening anyways. I consider your imaginary scenarios above to be of the same caliber.
Are you trying to say that allowing people to carry a gun will solve violence, or even reduce it significantly? Social psychologists and neurologists are well aware of what causes violence, and in due time, the problem will be addressed without guns?

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