10 Pro-Gun Myths, Shot Down

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Psychologists and Sociologists are not experts in statistical analysis, data analysis, or research methods. Economists are the experts in those areas.

How much background do you have in math?
That’s ridiculous. What are your credentials to make these claims?

I spent much of my life studying statistics and research methods from within the School of Psychology, at UCLA.

Please cite a reference to back up your claim.

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In most other countries, crossbows are subject to similar restrictions to guns. They fall under the same category of weapon.
Then you would have to put any weapons (knives, bows-and-arrows, acid, any thing that canbe shot/thrown) in the same category because all you need for a drive by is a car (truck, anything horse drawn), two people (one to drive and one to handle the weapon), and the weapon. 😛 🤷
 
It’s a nationally representative sample, so there’s a built in control for things like illegal activities and areas of high crime rate. Moreover it is stated that: “All data were weighted to account for unequal selection probabilities and nonresponse and were poststratified to produce national estimates.” This controls for any possible selection bias. Oversample are only used when analyzing by race, in order to guarantee adequate sample size.

I have a PhD in research psychology, so I’m an expert when it comes to these types of studies.

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Sooo…who gets to decide what gets weighted? Folks at Oxford? Yeah, no bias there Robert…
 
That’s ridiculous. What are your credentials to make these claims?

I spent much of my life studying statistics and research methods from within the School of Psychology, at UCLA.

Please cite a reference to back up your claim.

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I am an economist and I’ve worked with psychologists. What they call “research” and “statistical analysis” is anything but. It is not up to the standard of economics. They infer things from data and statistics that cannot be inferred, something you seem to do too. They don’t understand that correlation does not equal causation, something you seem to not understand either. They don’t understand how to control for extraneous variables in their statistical analysis. It’s just horrible.

Did you study statistics and research methods in liberal arts classes or did you take math and economics classes on those subjects.
 
Sooo…who gets to decide what gets weighted? Folks at Oxford? Yeah, no bias there Robert…
Do you have any idea why weights are used? They are used as controls, not confounds. They are often used throughout science. They are not arbitrary.

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Do you have any idea why weights are used? They are used as controls, not confounds. They are often used throughout science. They are not arbitrary.

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Yes Robert. I practice medicine, and have taken several graduate statistics courses which allow me to sort through the tons of chaff found in “studies” like the ones you like to post.

Weights are supposed to control for known variations, but anytime you are dealing with the “soft” sciences of psych and,/or politics, they can easily be added to skew the data toward a pre-ordained ending.

Like Free radical said…association does not equal causation.
 
Yes Robert. I practice medicine, and have taken several graduate statistics courses which allow me to sort through the tons of chaff found in “studies” like the ones you like to post.

Weights are supposed to control for known variations, but anytime you are dealing with the “soft” sciences of psych and,/or politics, they can easily be added to skew the data toward a pre-ordained ending.

Like Free radical said…association does not equal causation.
No, weights are used to correct for potential sample biases, not variability. They do not skew your data.

Look, go to Google, search “households violence guns” and pick out any of the numerous studies or articles that you wish.

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Insurance companies probably keep the most accurate statistics, since it costs them a lot of money if they don’t get them right.

I’ve noticed that people’s life insurance premiums take something of a hit when they purchase guns - coincidence? 🤷
 
Insurance companies probably keep the most accurate statistics, since it costs them a lot of money if they don’t get them right.

I’ve noticed that people’s life insurance premiums take something of a hit when they purchase guns - coincidence? 🤷
How do insurance companies know if their policy holders own guns?
 
How do insurance companies know if their policy holders own guns?
I’m guessing they figure it out when you add the gun to your list of household possessions, on your householder insurance. After all, it costs a lot to replace it when someone steals it and shoots you with it … 😃
 
Probably the same was health insurance companies find out if you’re a smoker; they ask you.

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I have never seen such a question on a life insurance application. Nor has my life insurance company every inquired about gun ownership.

The Veteran’s Administration has asked questions about gun ownership and I, like any reasonable gun owner, have always answered “none of your business”.
 
I’m guessing they figure it out when you add the gun to your list of household possessions, on your householder insurance. After all, it costs a lot to replace it when someone steals it and shoots you with it … 😃
Ahhhh, you are now talking about HOME OWNER"S insurance.

I recommend the National Rifle Association’s Home Owner’s policy. It covers all losses and liability and it a great value.
 
Ahhhh, you are now talking about HOME OWNER"S insurance.

I recommend the National Rifle Association’s Home Owner’s policy. It covers all losses and liability and it a great value.
Yes. Most people use the same company for both their home-owner’s and their life insurance policies.
 
I’m guessing they figure it out when you add the gun to your list of household possessions, on your householder insurance. After all, it costs a lot to replace it when someone steals it and shoots you with it … 😃
My homeowner’s insurance does not know I have a gun.
 
Insurance companies probably keep the most accurate statistics, since it costs them a lot of money if they don’t get them right.

I’ve noticed that people’s life insurance premiums take something of a hit when they purchase guns - coincidence? 🤷
My life insurance policy has never asked if I own a gun. They do not know I have a gun.
 
Only if you expect them to buy you a new one, if it gets lost or stolen.
Why is that? My homeowner’s insurance is a blanket policy, it does not require me to itemize or list the items I own in my house. They do not know what I have in my home. If my TV is stolen, I just call them up and they replace it. Same with any good in my home.
 
Why is that? My homeowner’s insurance is a blanket policy, it does not require me to itemize or list the items I own in my house. They do not know what I have in my home. If my TV is stolen, I just call them up and they replace it. Same with any good in my home.
Anything exceptionally valuable or unique would be listed, such as paintings, antiques, and the like. A gun would be unique. Most people have TV sets.
 
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