12 page first confessional. Too long?

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I’m preparing to go to confession since I was told that as a baptized Protestant seeking communion with the CC, I could confess at any time. So this week I will confess. I hope I am not delaying it too long. I have lost most of my hair recently from stress and worry and growing up without any theological guidance and trying to make up for all of it immediately. There is almost none of me left, apparently most everything I do is a sin.

I’ve done the exam of conscience. I’ve written down my sins twice and then typed them up. A nagging thought is that I am not putting enough time or effort into something as powerful as forgiveness. However, I don’t know what to do about it. I don’t know how many times I’ve said this or felt that in decades! So I categorized them into continuous, habitual, many times, a few times, and once or twice. I hope this suffices. Most of my sins are internal. I’ve tried to list them all but I see a rabbit hole. I’m don’t know the difference between a thought and a legit feeling because I never really considered thoughts sinful or held custody of them, so I’ve thought about everything. Not even just a passing thought because I’m plagued with intrusive thoughts. I mean I’ve probably entertained any thought that’s ever occured to me. I fleshed them out to whatever conclusion satisfies me. Here are some problems I’m having.

One, I dont know everything evil I’ve ever done. But perhaps if I kept waiting and thinking and delayed confession I could remember it? Two, I probably have a lot of butterfly effect sins. I mean causing others to sin due to my own sins. And then that goes to the next person, etc. Goodness you never really know how your actions shape the world. Something small could make a guy hurt himself or take it out on his kids or at least despair. Three, different aspects of the same sin. Let’s say my mother caught me stealing a nudity magazine. Ha! Do I confess looking at the magazine, stealing it, or dishonoring my mother separately? This is just an example, but there are several aspects of the same sin.

I have legitimately grave sins to confess, but paradoxically I also suffer from scrupulosity. It’s more of a lack of assurance about anything because I thought I was right as a Protestant. I felt perfectly justified. So apparently my feelings mean nothing. So I have no idea what I’m doing anymore. Nothing makes any sense, and everything seems to be eternal hell or abundant purgatory. From a guy that is extremely conscientious and introspective and that lives and works alone and doesn’t see people, this has been a nightmare. It all feels so bizarre and irrational. Taken to it’s conclusion, at least in my mind, I don’t know how any Catholics deal with this system with sanity if they believe in eternal hell and have thought about eternity. The thing I liked about whatever view I used to have was that I’m too stupid, lazy, and conniving to be trusted with any piece of my own salvation. Now, I despair not because of God, but because I’m such a screw up. I feel like the odds of me making it out of here in good shape are very small.

See you later,
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TL;DR: for my first confessional I’m trying to be thorough. I’m only listing each sin once, and categorizing them by how many times, but idk if I’m being too specific, not specific enough, or what. It’s about 10-12 pages single space. One type of sin per line. One example is “I’ve put people, possessions, desires, and ideas before God”. Should I break that down because it’s probably 1000 things. That’s the first and broadest one I have listed. The rest are more specific.
 
Call and set up an appointment with your priest.

He will determine if you are ready to make confession, or, if you need some more guidance.

12 pages of typed sins leads me to think that some education about sin is needed.

Heck, there are only 10 commandments to violate! Talk to your priest.
 
I also suffer from scrupulosity.
That is really clear in what you’ve written here.

Put the lists aside. Go to confession, tell the priest it is your first confession AND that you have scrupulosity. HE WILL GUIDE YOU.

Perhaps make an appointment for your confession so the priest has time to work with you on the scrupulosity issue.

Follow his directions as to what to confess, how frequently, and how to work through your scruples.

Also, scruples are frequently a manifestation of OCD so if you haven’t already been evaluated by a mental health professional, make an appointment to see someone.
 
Definitely make an appointment. In your case of (most likely) scrupulosity, you will need more time to confess and for the priest to get to know you.

I personally think that 12 pages is way over the top. You need to speak from your heart, not from a script. Do not get stressed out, God knows your sins before you even say them to the priest. Confession is meant to be healing, not stressful. Be at peace.
 
Keep in mind, too, that Holy Communion wipes away venial sin. Go back through that list and find the things that fit the criteria for a mortal sin: grave matter, full knowledge (that it was a grave matter) and full consent.

This is not to say that it isn’t a good practice to confess venial sins, only that the mortal sins are the most important to confess. You may not have committed any, since for most of your life you did not have full knowledge of the gravity of your sins.

I totally agree with those who suggest that you talk to your confessor. You’re still learning about this matter of how confession works; do not worry!!
 
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I also suffer from scrupulosity.
That is really clear in what you’ve written here.

Put the lists aside. Go to confession, tell the priest it is your first confession AND that you have scrupulosity. HE WILL GUIDE YOU.

Perhaps make an appointment for your confession so the priest has time to work with you on the scrupulosity issue.

Follow his directions as to what to confess, how frequently, and how to work through your scruples.

Also, scruples are frequently a manifestation of OCD so if you haven’t already been evaluated by a mental health professional, make an appointment to see someone.
Yes. Let your priest guide you. Trust your confessor and put the papers down. Trusting your confessor will please Christ.
 
I divided them up into the 10 commandments. I’m trying to cover them all. I sympathize with Martin Luther as I know what he was going through. At the same time, I was not raised Catholic, but I was raised to be Christian by my mother. On the other hand I was raised by my father who does not believe. I grew up with murderers, drug runners, Sicilian mob guys, racists, and every other kind of dirty bird. Not that I participated in all of that, but it really skewed my idea of right and wrong. Not knowing the state of my conscience at the time of the sin or thought , I’d rather just let it all out and then work on not doing the stuff again. I don’t want to intentionally leave anything out. Some, I’m sure, are venial. I just want to let it out. I’ve scheduled a confession. I’ll see what the priest has to say. I scheduled it at a different church out of embarrassment and because I wanted this done very soon.
 
This is absolutely incorrect and not the thing to say to someone who is scrupulous.

I have heard confessions for three and a half years, and have heard somewhere in the neighborhood of 8,000 confessions. I have heard the confessions of adult converts and of lapsed Catholics who have returned after decades. NEVER does a first confession need to be that long or detailed. A first confession is by nature a general confession, so one may speak generally. “I did sin X very frequently, I did sin Y a few times,” etc.

OP, throw out the list. Set up a meeting with your priest, and get his guidance on how to proceed. Make sure you tell him you’re scrupulous.

-Fr ACEGC
 
Thanks Father,

The confession is set up for Friday. I’m going to try and enjoy the rest of my week and use guidance during the confessional to complete it.

See you later,
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the confessions of adult converts and of lapsed Catholics who have returned after decades. NEVER does a first confession need to be that long or detailed. A first confession is by nature a general confession, so one may speak generally. “I did sin X very frequently, I did sin Y a few times,” etc.
⬆️ ⬆️ Oh, how I wish that could be made a sticky at the top of the subforum.
 
I tried looking around, I just found a lot of conflicting answers, so I posted my own details.
 
You’re not alone - a lot of posters ask similar questions which is why I think it’d be good if Fathers advice could be made a sticky at the top of the forum, as I think it’d resolve a lot of posters questions/concerns etc.
 
The confession is set up for Friday. I’m going to try and enjoy the rest of my week and use guidance during the confessional to complete it.
I am praying that you will have peace of mind this week and a most blessed encounter with God’s mercy on Friday.
 
As I said in response to your question in the Ask a Priest Anything thread, “knowing you” isn’t actually essential to helping you in the confessional. Knowing your sins, and maybe asking some questions to clarify, is helpful. For more in-depth help, a meeting outside of confession would be better. This is where knowing you would be more important and more helpful. But confession is for confessing sins, and especially if there are a lot of people in line and a limited amount of time to hear the confessions, there isn’t a need for more detail than is necessary. It might seem somewhat impersonal, but it’s not meant to be much more than confess sins, get some small amount of counsel if the priest deems it necessary, receive absolution, and go in peace.
 
Was that to me or @Alligator?

If me yes, I need to make an appointment first.
 
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Well Father, I thank you and everyone here. I hope later to join your forum as a confirmed Catholic.
 
@annad347 Some of the best guidance I’ve ever received from a priest in confession came from an anonymous priest I’ve never met before (or likely since). Just remember, in the kindest way I can communicate this in a written/impersonal forum - it’s not about you, it’s about faithful Christian living that we’re all called to (details may vary, but the main points are the same).
 
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