14 year old murders baby in toilet

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What if there were a functioning community around girls in this situation to let them know they don’t have to have sex to have worth, if they do anyway and they get pregnant they can get medical help and need not give birth alone, and lots of people would love to adopt their children? What if someone had been there to talk to her after the birth and let her recover mentally before she was all alone with the child? Whatever she did, this girl was a child, and she was impaired at the time.😦
Where are the neighbors, teachers, cousins, anyone when a girl is growing up without knowing how things work? Sex ed didn’t stop her from getting pregnant. Health ed didn’t stop her from being alone without a doctor or midwife to keep her and the baby safe. Child protection didn’t stop her from drowning a baby. The system doesn’t work.
 
i know the headlines said “14 year old murders baby in toilet” but can a 14 year old really be held accountable for a tragedy such as this? i find it beyond comprehension that there were not any adults that were aware of what was going on here. the 14 year old didn’t murder the baby in the toilet. the adults who should have been giving her support did.
 
helen_m said:
i know the headlines said “14 year old murders baby in toilet” but can a 14 year old really be held accountable for a tragedy such as this? i find it beyond comprehension that there were not any adults that were aware of what was going on here. the 14 year old didn’t murder the baby in the toilet. the adults who should have been giving her support did.
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A fourteen year old is well within the age of reason to understand that killing someone is murder.
 
I have a 14 y.o. and have been pregnant. I will never understand how parents can look anyone in the eye and say they were unaware their daughter was pregnant!
 
Undoubtedly there were systemic failures here, among faculty and family. There’s probably culpability to go around.

But fourteen is definitely old enough to know that trying to flush a crying baby down a toilet isn’t right. 😦 Christ have mercy.
 
mapleoak said:
A fourteen year old is well within the age of reason to understand that killing someone is murder.
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Absolutely. Stories like this make my blood boil. She and her parents should be punished.
 
** the 14 year old didn’t murder the baby in the toilet. the adults who should have been giving her support did.**

**Let’s not play “deflect responsibility.” Let’s put the responsibility on the person who committed this foul deed–the mother.

I’m a little tired of hearing that perpetrators are never responsible for what they do, it’s always “society.”**
 
I was thinking with the prevalence of sex-ed in the public schools, that without a doubt, she would have known that sexual activity makes the possibility of pregnancy more a possibility. 😦

I did say to my dh, how does a teacher look at a girl everyday in the classroom and not notice a pregnancy? :confused:
 
A ‘good’ lawyer would easily get her out of her predicament. Any reasoning he offers for this child’s actions has to hold more water than prevailing adult ‘logic’ that a baby only deserves to live if it’s mother wants it.😦

This is the kind of behavior to be expected when young minds are fed garbage. How tragic.
 
😦 Yes the girl is resposible for what she did to the baby.
You wonder how the teachers and her parents couldn’t tell she was pregnant.
As Strngrnrth says,that is what is needed. In these classes
girls and boys need to be told who they can go to or where they can go to for help.
This is what gets me sometimes about these people in the Pro-Life movement.Now I am not putting any posters here down.I am just saying that if all these people are so against abortion,then why doesn’t the Pro Life movement put ads out there aimed at teens saying,Hey if your pregnant and scared to tell your parents, we can help you with this, help you through the pregnancy,and if you decide to give the baby up, we can help with adoption too.
Now the Sisters of Life and the Sisters of the Gospel of Life may do that,but the laity need to get invovled too.
The various diocese in the US should help too,under their ministry
to the family. Anyone regardless of faith could go there for aid.
Maybe it would help stop or prevent some of this sort of thing.

Just so tragic ,in so many ways.
 
I’m just in awe over this whole thing… what can be said except Christ have mercy
 
The sad part may be that this child may have been sexually abused by incest too rather than just be sexually active. Very sad when life to a 14 yr. old is disposable. She must have been very desperate. More reasons to truly pray.
 
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