15-Oct-08 - Holy See Approves Alternative Closing Messages for Mass [via EWTN]

[Catholic_Press]

VATICAN CITY, OCT. 14, 2008 (Zenit.org).- The Holy See has approved three alternatives to “Ite, missa est,” the final words said by the priest at Mass…

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[PatienceAndLove]

I often hear “go in peace to love and serve the Lord”.

 

[japhy]

I often hear “go in peace to love and serve the Lord”.

Before these new Latin dismissal texts, the licit texts (in Latin) were:
144. Deinde diaconus, vel ipse sacerdos, manibus iunctis, versus ad populum dicit: Ite, missa est (allelúia, allelúia).

Populus respondet: Deo grátias (allelúia, allelúia).
I’ll check the 1985 English translation of the 1975 Roman Missal when I get home. Catholic-Resources.org says there are three dismissal texts in English (which I would like to verify):
Go in the peace of Christ.
or The Mass is ended, go in peace.
or Go in peace to love and serve the Lord.

 

[FrDavid96]

Before these new Latin dismissal texts, the licit texts (in Latin) were:
144. Deinde diaconus, vel ipse sacerdos, manibus iunctis, versus ad populum dicit: Ite, missa est (allelúia, allelúia).

Populus respondet: Deo grátias (allelúia, allelúia).
I’ll check the 1985 English translation of the 1975 Roman Missal when I get home. Catholic-Resources.org says there are three dismissal texts in English (which I would like to verify):
Go in the peace of Christ.
or The Mass is ended, go in peace.
or Go in peace to love and serve the Lord.

Yep. The source is accurate. I took a quick peek at the Sacramentary just to be certain.

Frankly, I’m puzzled as to why this is news. Upon further thought, I also checked a 1974 printing and they’ve been there all along.

 

[japhy]

Yep. The source is accurate. I took a quick peek at the Sacramentary just to be certain.

Yeah, I just couldn’t remember for sure.

Frankly, I’m puzzled as to why this is news. Upon further thought, I also checked a 1974 printing and they’ve been there all along.

The three English ones aren’t “news”, it’s the new Latin ones which are news.

 

[Aramis]

It’s just Rome expanding the ICEL’s indulted endings to the core of the default Roman Mass in Latin.

 

[FrDavid96]

I’ve looked at the new endings. There’s nothing significantly different from what we’ve seen before. Slightly different words. But no “big deal” I just don’t see what the fuss is about…

 

[benedictgal]

Actually, this is what the new translations have indicated:

1. Then the deacon, or the Priest himself, with hands joined and facing the people, says:
   Go forth, the Mass is ended.
   Or:
   Go and announce the Gospel of the Lord.
   Or:
   Go in peace, glorifying the Lord by your life.
   Or:
   Go in peace.

This is supposed to be in line with a recommendation that Pope Benedict made in Sacramentum Caritatis:

The dismissal: “Ite, missa est”

1. Finally, I would like to comment briefly on the observations of the Synod Fathers regarding the dismissal at the end of the eucharistic celebration. After the blessing, the deacon or the priest dismisses the people with the words: Ite, missa est. These words help us to grasp the relationship between the Mass just celebrated and the mission of Christians in the world. In antiquity, missa simply meant “dismissal.” However in Christian usage it gradually took on a deeper meaning. The word “dismissal” has come to imply a “mission.” These few words succinctly express the missionary nature of the Church. The People of God might be helped to understand more clearly this essential dimension of the Church’s life, taking the dismissal as a starting- point. In this context, it might also be helpful to provide new texts, duly approved, for the prayer over the people and the final blessing, in order to make this connection clear (154).

I do not have the Latin versions of it, but, I suppose that this is what these new options intend to mean.

 

[Aramis]

I’ve looked at the new endings. There’s nothing significantly different from what we’ve seen before. Slightly different words. But no “big deal” I just don’t see what the fuss is about…

That, in the Missale Romanum, editio Paulus pp. VI, Anno 1974 one ending was prescribed: “Ite Missae Est.”

Now, 3 are.

The USCCB was indulted for three different endings in English. Now, those are in the Missale Romanum, editio anno 2008.

It is big. It is an Englishism spreading church-wide.

 

[FrDavid96]

That, in the Missale Romanum, editio Paulus pp. VI, Anno 1974 one ending was prescribed: “Ite Missae Est.”

Now, 3 are.

The USCCB was indulted for three different endings in English. Now, those are in the Missale Romanum, editio anno 2008.

It is big. It is an Englishism spreading church-wide.

There are 2 different issues.

1. Catholics in the US will not experience anything significantly different since similar forms have been allowed since 1974 in the US.
2. The expansion of these options worldwide express an example of how legitimate changes in the Mass are brought-about. The US bishops, in their wisdom and guided by the Holy Spirit saw a real value in the “evangelical” nature of the dismissal being better expressed in the words of the dismissal (at least as one option of three). The Holy See saw that value and approved it for the US. Later, the Holy See saw fit to expand those options for the Universal Church. The system worked. This is how the system should work.

 

[benedictgal]

Here is the latest regarding this matter. It was discussed during the Synod and the report appears in the November edition of Adoremus:

The Latin version and the newly approved English translation of the three new alternative dismissals follow:

• Ite ad Evangelium Domini nuntiandum.
Go and announce the Gospel of the Lord.

• Ite in pace, glorificando vita vestra Dominum.
Go in peace, glorifying the Lord by your life.

• Ite in pace. (Alleluia, alleluia is added during Easter season.)
Go in peace. (Alleluia, alleluia)

So, these are not innovations attributed to the USCCB; rather, these were crafted based on the suggestion made by the Holy Father in Sacramentum Caritatis.

 

[Digitonomy]

So do these simply add to, or completely replace the previously approved English options listed above? Such as the one I hear most often “Go in peace to love and serve the Lord.”

 

[Phemie]

So do these simply add to, or completely replace the previously approved English options listed above? Such as the one I hear most often “Go in peace to love and serve the Lord.”

It replaces them. BTW, the one you quote is also the one we hear most often.

 

[Phemie]

That, in the Missale Romanum, editio Paulus pp. VI, Anno 1974 one ending was prescribed: “Ite Missae Est.”

Now, 3 are.

The USCCB was indulted for three different endings in English. Now, those are in the Missale Romanum, editio anno 2008.

It is big. It is an Englishism spreading church-wide.

It wasn’t only an indult for the USCCB since our Canadian Sacramentary also has those 3 endings. Were those 3 endings perhaps for all English speaking countries? Our French one only has “Go in the peace of Christ.”

 

[Aramis]

It wasn’t only an indult for the USCCB since our Canadian Sacramentary also has those 3 endings. Were those 3 endings perhaps for all English speaking countries? Our French one only has “Go in the peace of Christ.”

Actually, it was probably an ICEL indult. Still, it was an indult, since the text was approved and differed substantially from the Latin original.

 

[Digitonomy]

It replaces them. BTW, the one you quote is also the one we hear most often.

Now that I think about it, I think I more commonly hear a compound dismissal: “The mass is ended. Go in peace to love and serve the Lord.” Not strictly licit, but a fairly minimal abuse.