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Hi. I was just wondering what happend to all the Cathlics during the 1970’s?

I mean I’m only 34 and I was born in 77. But did a lot of Catholics quit going to Mass back then or what? Or did they just become spiritual but not religioius?]

Anyone older than me care to expalin?

Thanks…
 
Good question. I’m 49 and have noticed even in the past four or five years a decline in congregation numbers. Very sad.
A Catholic school teacher recently said to me: “Oh, you don’t have to go every Sunday.”
I said: “Yes, you do, and start teaching it not only to the students, but to their parents as well.”
The adults from the 70s and 80s seem to lack the knowledge of the mass.
I think the adults should be taught again somehow.
 
A lot of things really slid in the 70s, Mass attendance and practice of one’s faith being among them. And toward the end of that decade there was the ascendancy of the “Bible-believing televangelist.” I suppose a lot of Catholics substituted watching one of those broadcasts for going to church on a Sunday morning, erroneously believing that it was just as valid.

You also saw, for the first time in the history of this country, a real drop in the number of new vocations, as well as professed religious and ordained priests leaving their vocations for marriage or a single life. Many of them retained the social activism of their vocations, however, without the Gospel mandate that underlined the activism when they were still professed. They were a little bit behind the times, though, as the social activism of the sixties was evaporating in the wider society.

Society as a whole was becoming more vapid, while retaining the iconoclasm of the sixties. Essentially, we turned into a nation of sluggards with little self-esteem, or regard for much of anything else. Including God.

Just a view of American history according to Odile—LOL!
 
Watered down Catholicism, with a lot of heretics in power, such as being RCIA teachers. That would be my guess. Correct me if I’m wrong.
 
Hi. I was just wondering what happend to all the Cathlics during the 1970’s?

I mean I’m only 34 and I was born in 77. But did a lot of Catholics quit going to Mass back then or what? Or did they just become spiritual but not religioius?]

Anyone older than me care to expalin?

Thanks…
Dear jason3477,

Cordial greetings and a warm welcome to the world of CAF. Thankyou for the above question, dear friend.

The decline in Mass attendance in the Western World is, I think, largely owing to the whole impact of the moral and cultural revolution of the Sixties and its godless and secular ideology. Alas, the spirit of the age has penetrated the walls of Holy Mother Church, meeting with little or no resistance by the faithful. Consequently, many modern Catholics have adopted a hand in hand with the world type of approach to their religion, a ‘Catholicism Lite’, if you please, which makes very little demand upon them in terms of thoroughgoing Christian discipleship and serious abstention from worldly pleasures. Thus it is hardly surprising that irregular or non-attendance at Mass has become all too common as a consequence of such worldliness. However, what surely admits of no doubt at all is that men have decidedly not become more “spiritual” in recent times.

Other factors have undoubtedly played a part in the general state of deterioration and the Laodicean lukewarmness with which contemporary Catholicism is now beset, but it is an undeniable fact that many of the faithful in our age have succumbed to the secular drift and have been contented with much lower standards. This would have been unthinkable to our Catholic forefathers, who always strived to live up to the arduous demands of their Faith. Naturally, this ‘Catholicism Lite’ approach to our holy religion has taken its toll as regards the ardent undertaking of obligations and observations, including Mass attendance.

It is right and necessary to give a diagnostic analysis of our present desperate plight, but it is imperative that we also honestly address the issues and seek an effective remedy, thus setting in order those things that are wanting.

First, we need again to manfully face up to the challenges of Catholic living in an increasingly irreligious and amoral world. This will necessarily entail daring to be different and offering our decadent age a credible alternative Christian counter-culture that is unashamedly unworldly.

Second, we must counteract that effete but wide-spread desire to make things pleasant in our religion by avoidance of almost everything that savours of self-denial or renouncing “a few of our favourite things”. How often do we hear modern day Catholics vociferously declaring that we must be ‘world-affirming and not world-denying’, or that we must not be prissy prudes or ‘overscrupulous’ when it comes to indulging in worldly amusements? There is a warped view held by many of the younger generation of emerging Catholics, that one can plunge into just about any pleasure that appeals to the senses and yet still remain a Catholic in good standing. That evinces a monumental failure to think with an authentically Catholic mind, but this in turn stems from inadeqaute catechesis which in turn stems from succumbing to the secular drift and assimilation of the worldly spirit.

Third, we surely also need to reflect upon the sobering truth that the whole course of this earthly life is a state of probation and that we must, if we are to enter life eternal, “work out our salvation with fear and trembling”, to qoute St. Paul. The salvation of a soul is an difficult business involving daily penitence, frequent Mass attendance, good works and self-denial by taking up our cross and following Christ. A half-hearted and shallow desire full of compromise with the godless world, will hardly suffice. Only an earnest laying hold upon eternal life now and a burning desire to enter in “by the narrow door” will be blessed with success. However, is this the religion of multitudes who profess the Catholic religion today? It would probably be contemptuously dismissed as a recipe for ‘kill-joy religion’ and Puritanism, not that the Puritan saints could not teach us Catholics a few things about devout living. Be that as it may, sanctity and separation from the godless world is one of the grand evidences of a work of grace within a man’s heart, as the lives of the choicest saints bear ample testimony.

Finally, and I aplogise for the homily, dear friend, but the antidote to all our present ills, including this fall in Mass attendence of which you speak, is really to heed the call for sanctity and separation from the godless world and its deplorable standards. Only this ardent pursuit of holiness will stimulate a more thoroughgoing approach to the obligations and observances of our most holy religion.

God bless and I do hope that was of some help. Thankyou for suffering a lengthy post, dear friend.

Warmest good wishes,

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Pax
 
One thing that had a huge impact on the behavior of many Catholics is that in 1970 there was a worldwide conference on CCD/Religious Ed. and it decided to have a “touchy-feely” (with banners) form of catechesis rather than just teaching the Faith to children. That impacted those in junior high, high school and college a lot who were not being taught the Faith. This caused a huge out-fall of terribly catechized people who then taught the future children to be uncatechized. It also meant that the people putting out materials for catechesis were putting out poor materials. We haven’t yet fully gone beyond that it in our teaching of the Faith. There are now good materials out there, but they aren’t being chosen by DREs as the material they want to use.
Plus, the children see the models of poor catechesis at home and follow that.
 
But did a lot of Catholics quit going to Mass back then or what? Or did they just become spiritual but not religioius?

There are many different theories. The only thing we know for certain is that at it’s American zenith the great thinkers of the Church decided our beautiful liturgy and our prayer to St Micheal to defend us against evil had to go.

They wanted to be liked…be more like the Protestants.
 
I think that the church is swinging back to the way she was back in the olden days. I think that things will be much more like they were in the 1920s . What I LOVE is that so many young guys are so much more orthodox in thier thinking. When I was a kid we didin’t go to church too much. But I see a postivie direction as to where the Church is headed especially when I am reading the vocations forum on here:thumbsup:.
 
Hi. I was just wondering what happend to all the Cathlics during the 1970’s?

I mean I’m only 34 and I was born in 77. But did a lot of Catholics quit going to Mass back then or what? Or did they just become spiritual but not religioius?]

Anyone older than me care to expalin?

Thanks…
Vatican Council II, possibly? The changes made as a result were for the purpose of making Mass more approachable to the average Joe, but unfortunately, reverence for the Mass and the Eucharist were almost completely lost. Which is really ironic, when you think about it, because now the average Joe doesn’t even go to Mass! I think my age group has somthing like 15% Mass attendance. Very sad!
 
I made it through the 70’s and beyond thanks to a good, solid Catholic school education from the 60’s. May God forever bless the sisters with the “clickers”! 😉
 
I was a product of the 70s CCD. 😦 I had no idea about the my true faith. My dad was a former seminarian and he tried to teach me but I only saw it as, “Dad telling me what to do”. But he did instill in me a healthy fear of God. On my own I kind of fell away but had a reversion in the late 90s/early 2000s. What brought me back? Finally learning my faith. A lot of , “Wow, I didn’t know that!”. I thank Our Lady for that (particularly Our Lady of Fatima). 🙂
 
I was born in '73. I agree with those who said that CCD was watered down, feel-good yuck.

It also didn’t help that my family members are all “cafeteria” variety Catholics. In one breath, they would say that there’s nothing wrong with ABC that the Church is wrong:eek: (I shudder to think about that!) and in the next breath they would talk about how much they pray the rosary (often). :whacky::banghead:

If THAT doesn’t mess up faith formation, there is nothing that could.
 
I was born in '73. I agree with those who said that CCD was watered down, feel-good yuck.

It also didn’t help that my family members are all “cafeteria” variety Catholics. In one breath, they would say that there’s nothing wrong with ABC that the Church is wrong:eek: (I shudder to think about that!) and in the next breath they would talk about how much they pray the rosary (often). :whacky::banghead:

If THAT doesn’t mess up faith formation, there is nothing that could.
All I can say is wow. :eek:
 
Lots of good thoughts here but make no mistake about it…the Catholic church is and has been under constant attack probably more so than at almost any other time in history.
 
Lots of good thoughts here but make no mistake about it…the Catholic church is and has been under constant attack probably more so than at almost any other time in history.
I don’t think the battle will ever be over…until it’s all over.
 
I was born in '73. I agree with those who said that CCD was watered down, feel-good yuck.
If that isn’t scary enough, my daughter goes to Catholic school and now THEIR religion is “watered down, feel-good yuck”. It’s sickening. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve said to her, “That’s not exactly right, my dear”, or “There’s a little more to it than that.” Talk about frustrating! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… As tuition rises into the stratosphere, the quality of religious education is plummeting down into the cesspool.
 
If that isn’t scary enough, my daughter goes to Catholic school and now THEIR religion is “watered down, feel-good yuck”. It’s sickening. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve said to her, “That’s not exactly right, my dear”, or “There’s a little more to it than that.” Talk about frustrating! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… As tuition rises into the stratosphere, the quality of religious education is plummeting down into the cesspool.
:eek:

The schools here aren’t any different. Nor are the churches and CCD programs.

In my church, larger families are laughed about (at the very best of negative reactions) or looked down on. Yes, there are a few of us who have four or more (I love seeing the family with 7 kids!) but we are rare.
 
:eek:

The schools here aren’t any different. Nor are the churches and CCD programs.

In my church, larger families are laughed about (at the very best of negative reactions) or looked down on. Yes, there are a few of us who have four or more (I love seeing the family with 7 kids!) but we are rare.
I notice you’re from the Jersey shore area. I’m not too far from you. I love seeing the families with 7 kids, too! Such a breath of fresh air!
 
I notice you’re from the Jersey shore area. I’m not too far from you. I love seeing the families with 7 kids, too! Such a breath of fresh air!
I just wish my circumstances were different so that I could join them. 😦
 
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