1st communion for child baptised anglican

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Could anyone tell me the proper protocol for a 2nd grade child that was baptized anglican and wishes to make her first communion in the Catholic church with her classmates?
 
Hello!
Could anyone tell me the proper protocol for a 2nd grade child that was baptized anglican and wishes to make her first communion in the Catholic church with her classmates?
Well, she has to actually be a Catholic before she can receive Communion (for the first time or any other time). There’s no way around that one.

You said she was baptized Anglican. Does she (since she’s reached the age of reason) still consider herself Anglican? Do her parents consider her Catholic or Anglican, or something else?
 
Hello!
Could anyone tell me the proper protocol for a 2nd grade child that was baptized anglican and wishes to make her first communion in the Catholic church with her classmates?
it is essentially up to the bishop of each diocese, but such children, as would adults baptized in another Christian denomination, should go through RCIA and be received into full communion in the Catholic Church through profession of faith, Confirmation and first communion (preceded by first confession). This may be at Easter, or at another time selected by the pastor. She most likely will prepare for sacraments in a class with here peers, some Catholic, and some not. There are still some bishops who think it wiser that such children celebrate 1st communion in 2nd or 3rd grade with others of their class, and delay Confirmation until the normal age for Catholic youth of the diocese.
 
it is essentially up to the bishop of each diocese, but such children, as would adults baptized in another Christian denomination, should go through RCIA and be received into full communion in the Catholic Church through profession of faith, Confirmation and first communion (preceded by first confession). This may be at Easter, or at another time selected by the pastor. She most likely will prepare for sacraments in a class with here peers, some Catholic, and some not. There are still some bishops who think it wiser that such children celebrate 1st communion in 2nd or 3rd grade with others of their class, and delay Confirmation until the normal age for Catholic youth of the diocese.
I think you missed the point of the original post.
 
I don’t think I did miss the point, OP asked for the protocol, I gave it. Suggest she speak to her own pastor about a ruling on how things are done in that diocese. Neither the child’s wishes nor the parents determine the timing of the sacraments, the bishop retains that right.
 
I don’t think I did miss the point, OP asked for the protocol, I gave it. Suggest she speak to her own pastor about a ruling on how things are done in that diocese. Neither the child’s wishes nor the parents determine the timing of the sacraments, the bishop retains that right.
You gave “some” protocols, but they’re not relevant to what the poster is asking about.

The age of the person very much determines what is done, and how it’s done.

Whether or not the child is Catholic most of all determines what is done. We don’t know if the child is Catholic, therefore we have to ask the original poster that question first. Do you see what I’m getting at?
 
Hello!
Could anyone tell me the proper protocol for a 2nd grade child that was baptized anglican and wishes to make her first communion in the Catholic church with her classmates?
Jsscelfo,

It’s not going to be possible to answer your question until we have a little more information.

What exactly are you getting at? Please give more details, especially tell us what religion the girl is now.

Why was the child baptized Anglican in the first place?
Are the parents Catholic?
 
You gave “some” protocols, but they’re not relevant to what the poster is asking about.

The age of the person very much determines what is done, and how it’s done.

Whether or not the child is Catholic most of all determines what is done. We don’t know if the child is Catholic, therefore we have to ask the original poster that question first. Do you see what I’m getting at?
Unless she’s a very unusual case she is probably seven or eight years old and thus past the age of reason. I’m guessing that the only reason the poster is asking the question is because the child had never been “officially” received into the Catholic Church. We don’t know the parents’ status either.

Puzzleannie has to deal with these issues in real life all the time.
 
Unless she’s a very unusual case she is probably seven or eight years old and thus past the age of reason. I’m guessing that the only reason the poster is asking the question is because the child had never been “officially” received into the Catholic Church. We don’t know the parents’ status either.

Puzzleannie has to deal with these issues in real life all the time.
We know very little. That is exactly why we have to get information from the original poster before (yes, before) we give any answers.

Makes sense, no?

I have to deal with these issues in real life all the time.
 
My niece was baptized anglican. Her father is Catholic. Her mother is anglican. They were married in the anglican church. My niece attends a Catholic school. There seemed to be some confusion in my family as to what the protocol was. My niece is the one who wants to become Catholic.
 
My niece was baptized anglican. Her father is Catholic. Her mother is anglican. They were married in the anglican church. My niece attends a Catholic school. There seemed to be some confusion in my family as to what the protocol was. My niece is the one who wants to become Catholic.
If the parents are willing for her to become Catholic they should make an appointment with the pastor asap. We can’t tell you what he will decide. If she has been attending Catholic school all along, perhaps she would be able to receive communion at about the same time her class does so. However, some arrangement would probably have to be made for her to officially enter the church and be confirmed at that time too.
 
My niece was baptized anglican. Her father is Catholic. Her mother is anglican. They were married in the anglican church. My niece attends a Catholic school. There seemed to be some confusion in my family as to what the protocol was. My niece is the one who wants to become Catholic.
Since she is not yet Catholic, she cannot receive Communion. She must be received into the Church before she receives–there’s no way around that. And keep in mind that becoming Catholic means just that. She can’t be both Catholic and Anglican at the same time–that’s impossible. Both she and her parents need to understand that.

If she hasn’t yet reached her 7th birthday, it’s relatively easy. She can simply be admitted into the Church by a special rite for admitting previously baptised children into the the Church. This rite is almost identical to an infant baptism. It supplies the ritual and blessings of Baptism. The pastor can do this immediately, as soon as he has at least a founded hope that the child will be raised in the Catholic faith.

If she’s past her 7th birthday, that makes things a little different. Technically, she should go through the RCIA program (ironically, the RCI of Adults) but that’s not an absolute. I gather that the whole point of your post is that she wants to participate with her classmates? The pastor may well consider this a good pastoral reason to allow that to happen, rather than to separate her from her friends and require her to participate in a program with adults, where she will most likely feel very out of place. The pastor can receive someone into the Church at any time.

The short answer is to say talk to your pastor. If she isn’t yet 7, talk to him as soon as possible.

That’s a start. And it might bring up even more questions. Keep us posted.
 
You gave “some” protocols, but they’re not relevant to what the poster is asking about.

The age of the person very much determines what is done, and how it’s done.

Whether or not the child is Catholic most of all determines what is done. We don’t know if the child is Catholic, therefore we have to ask the original poster that question first. Do you see what I’m getting at?
OP states child is baptized Anglican, and has reached catechetical age, so I gave only info that applies in that case. OP did not ask about the rest of the family, she asked as I receive the question every year from parents at our Catholic school, so that is how I answered. Bottom line remains the same. Parents of the child must have an interview with their pastor (not the school) asap, do not delay, and he will guide them.
 
Hello!
Could anyone tell me the proper protocol for a 2nd grade child that was baptized anglican and wishes to make her first communion in the Catholic church with her classmates?
Jsscelfo:

Given her age, and the circumstances, you may want to request that the pastor receive her into the Church using the brief ceremony which supplies the rites of the Church that were lacking because she was baptised outside the Church. It is his decision, but it is possible that he could do this right away if the parents request it and he has a founded hope that she will be raised Catholic from now on. I olny say it’s possible, so keep that in mind please. If she hasn’t yet reached her 7th birthday (and that’s possible) then there’s no question that this would be the way to go.

This is a relatively simple ceremony and resemebles the full rite of Baptism in almost every way (but without the actual Baptismal formula and the water).

This would allow her to continue along with the rest of her classmates, and receive first Communion with them in the spring. It would also avoid any potential embarrassment or discomfort she might feel by 1 being seperated from her classmates and 2 taking part in the RCIA program with (probably mostly) adults where she would feel uncomfortable.

You will have to provide some proof of her baptism. Anglicans generally give baptism certificates, so that should be easy. One thing that might complicate things is to keep in mind that for the baptism to be valid, she must have been baptised using the Trinitarian formula (In the Name of the Father…) Unfortunately, we can no longer assume that was the case. If the proof of baptism does not say this, the pastor may need to investigate further.
 
My niece was baptized anglican. Her father is Catholic. Her mother is anglican. They were married in the anglican church. My niece attends a Catholic school. There seemed to be some confusion in my family as to what the protocol was. My niece is the one who wants to become Catholic.
This very much sounds, then, like our starting point is that the girl is not Catholic and thus must first become Catholic before receiving the Eucharist. Much of the advice so far has been fairly well to the point, but there have been some inaccuracies that I hope to address.
If she hasn’t yet reached her 7th birthday, it’s relatively easy. She can simply be admitted into the Church by a special rite for admitting previously baptised children into the the Church. This rite is almost identical to an infant baptism. It supplies the ritual and blessings of Baptism. The pastor can do this immediately, as soon as he has at least a founded hope that the child will be raised in the Catholic faith.

If she’s past her 7th birthday, that makes things a little different. Technically, she should go through the RCIA program (ironically, the RCI of Adults) but that’s not an absolute. The short answer is to say talk to your pastor. If she isn’t yet 7, talk to him as soon as possible.
Yes, the first key distinction here is that of age. If the girl is as yet below the age of reason, she can very easily be received into the Church and proceed along the “standard” sacramental path in her parish. If she is in the second grade, though, I highly doubt that she is below the age of reason, and in that case she would need to convert as an “adult” (canonically, that is everyone who has attained reason, de facto set at seven years; she would be an adult who is still a minor). Father has said that she should technically go through RCIA; RCIA, though, is only for non-Christians who are entering the Church. There may be some special guidelines for adults below the age of 14, but the general rule is that a non-Catholic Christian can be received by his/her pastor at any time the pastor feels they have a sufficient grasp of Catholics’ beliefs and responsibilities.
it is essentially up to the bishop of each diocese, but such children, as would adults baptized in another Christian denomination, should go through RCIA and be received into full communion in the Catholic Church through profession of faith, Confirmation and first communion (preceded by first confession). This may be at Easter, or at another time selected by the pastor. She most likely will prepare for sacraments in a class with here peers, some Catholic, and some not. There are still some bishops who think it wiser that such children celebrate 1st communion in 2nd or 3rd grade with others of their class, and delay Confirmation until the normal age for Catholic youth of the diocese.
Having said that RCIA is not necessary, I will concede that in some parishes Annie’s “should” isn’t too far off. If the girl has insufficient grasp of Catholicism (despite her Catholic schooling) and parish resources are set up in such a way that their RCIA program is the best way to remedy this deficiency, then it ought to be used. Actually, an RCIC (…for Children) is designed for those between 7 and 14, so if one of those exists that might be your best bet. Really, though, all that is minimally necessary is private instruction/examination by the pastor and reception when he sees fit.

The inaccuracy I would clear up in Annie’s post, though, is that about the timing of Eucharist and Confirmation. It is not simply up to the bishop to decide what he thinks best. Canonically, a pastor who receives a non-Catholic Christian into the Church is obligated to confirm that person at the reception, regardless of whether anyone thinks it would be nicer to get confirmed with classmates. Whether or not we are going to raise the possibility of a bishop dispensing from the canonical requirement, then, the canonical norm for anyone of 7 years or older is for reception through profession, confirmation, and Eucharist.
 
Friends,
Please try to keep in mind the original question posed by the original poster.

“Could anyone tell me the proper protocol for a 2nd grade child that was baptized anglican and wishes to make her first communion in the Catholic church with her classmates?”

That question has a rather direct 2-part answer.
  1. She needs to speak with the pastor of the place, and request/suggest that the pastor receive her into the Church immediately by simply supplying the missing rites of Baptism.
  2. Alternately, if in the pastor’s judgment she is too mature for that simple rite, or it is otherwise inappropriate; to receive her into the Church by an abreviated form of the RCIA ritual and allow her to receive first Communion with her classmates.
The answer to her actual question is in the two options above.

The pastor can take that suggestion under advisement. It is up to his judgment to decide if the above is pastorally appropriate. And it is up to him to determine if he has such faculties (either by the law itself by virtue of his office as pastor, or by the faculties granted to him by the Ordinary) or how he goes about obtaining them.

It is also up to the pastor to simply answer “No. She has to go through the entire RCIA program with the appropriate adaptations for one who was previously baptised outside the Church.” In other words “I can’t do what you’re asking.”

The question was a rather simple one, but the answers are becoming much too complicated. I know everyone is trying to help, but let’s keep in mind that too many details, and too much back-and-forth about the RCIA program only serves to confuse the person asking the question. Thank you to everyone who is trying to help. You mean well, and please do not think that I believe anything else. But let’s keep in mind the original question.
 
Friends,
Please try to keep in mind the original question posed by the original poster.

“Could anyone tell me the proper protocol for a 2nd grade child that was baptized anglican and wishes to make her first communion in the Catholic church with her classmates?”

That question has a rather direct 2-part answer.
  1. She needs to speak with the pastor of the place, and request/suggest that the pastor receive her into the Church immediately by simply supplying the missing rites of Baptism.
  2. Alternately, if in the pastor’s judgment she is too mature for that simple rite, or it is otherwise inappropriate; to receive her into the Church by an abreviated form of the RCIA ritual and allow her to receive first Communion with her classmates.
The answer to her actual question is in the two options above.

The pastor can take that suggestion under advisement. It is up to his judgment to decide if the above is pastorally appropriate. And it is up to him to determine if he has such faculties (either by the law itself by virtue of his office as pastor, or by the faculties granted to him by the Ordinary) or how he goes about obtaining them.
But number two simply leaves out everything that can be said with certainty. A pastor receiving someone into the Church has, by law, the faculty to confer confirmation and the obligation to use that faculty. The only way to receive an “adult child” into the Church and have her receive First Communion with her classmates would be to receive and confirm her before (or at) the First Communion Mass; it would also make sense, though, that might have to receive the Eucharist when they are received into the Church, which would push it into the same Mass (I just don’t have my rites in front of me to back that up). The important detail, though, is that it is not up to any individual to “determine” the “pastoral appropriateness” of when to confirm one received into the Church. The law makes that decision for you.
 
But number two simply leaves out everything that can be said with certainty. A pastor receiving someone into the Church has, by law, the faculty to confer confirmation and the obligation to use that faculty. The only way to receive an “adult child” into the Church and have her receive First Communion with her classmates would be to receive and confirm her before (or at) the First Communion Mass; it would also make sense, though, that might have to receive the Eucharist when they are received into the Church, which would push it into the same Mass (I just don’t have my rites in front of me to back that up). The important detail, though, is that it is not up to any individual to “determine” the “pastoral appropriateness” of when to confirm one received into the Church. The law makes that decision for you.
That is the pastor’s decision to make.

First, the pastor decides if he should do it.

If yes…
Secondly, the pastor determines if he can do it, or if he needs some other permission/dispensation. It’s his determination, not for us to decide for him.
 
The point I am trying to make is this:

The original poster asked “how can I make this happen?” paraphrased of course.

I believe I’ve answered that question by saying that she needs to speak to the pastor and ask that he do what I stated in the above responses. He might respond yes or no, but the possible responses don’t change what the question should be.

The questions of what should the pastor do? or what may the pastor do? are not realy what’s being asked.
 
Having worked in pastoral care for years and being well trained in it, I’m going to throw my two-cents in with Fr. David.
  1. You must determine if the child is Catholic. The pastor or associate determines this.
  2. You must prove that the child was properly baptized. The parents must prove this to the pastor’s satisfaction.
  3. You must provide the missing rituals. A cleric takes care of this.
After that is settled, the pastor has the authority to dispense with the RCIA and allow the child to go through the religious education program of the parish and some adaptation of the RCIA, not the the ordinary RCIA. Many parishes and dioceses also have an RCIT for younger persons entering the Church. The RCIT is an adaptation of the RCIA. But the crowd is school age.

Converts must also go through the program, not just non Christians.

The program can be adapted a the pastor’s discretion in coordiantion with the Director of Religious Educaiton who has to figure out the logistics of the adaptation. Pastors usually hand down the decision and let the DRE get it in motion.

As to confirmation, Canon Law says this is the ordinary process. The pastor can decide not to confirm. The law does not place a moral obligation under pain of sin on the pastor or the preciding cleric who is receiving the person.

These kinds of decisioins are made all the time all over the world.

Let’s not overwhelm the OP. Call the parish office and find out whom you have to speak with. Make an appointment and take it from there.

Good luck,

JR 🙂
 
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