2 parishes in one church building--does anybody understand this?

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This is from a website of a parish (parishes?) in my diocese. “St. Malachi is home to two distinct Roman Catholic parishes of the Diocese of Cleveland that come together for many worthwhile activities.” stmalachi.org/ Does anybody understand what this is?
 
Maybe it’s two different language communities, ie - one english ‘parish’, one spanish ‘parish’ 🤷
 
One would be the more traditional church while the other would be the more charismatic.

my church is called St. Joseph Church/Bread of Life Community. BoL is the charismatic presence in our parish. We inherited them when they requested to be recognized as their own parish and the Bishop said “no”. St. Joe’s “took them in” and gave them a home, I guess.
 
How about a Lutheran and a Catholic in one building?
We have one like that in our diocese - Calgary

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I am not going to comment on St. Malachi parish, since it is against forum rules to criticize a specific parish or priest, and in any case my knowledge goes back about 20 years. Note that the second “community” listed is a non-territorial parish, which are historically common in the Cleveland diocese. There were the regular territorial parishes, usually staffed by German or Irish priests (St. Malachi is one of the oldest of the original Irish parishes) but as more immigrants from Italy, Eastern Europe etc. came they wanted priests of their own language and culture, esp. after the turn of the century when priests were allowed to preach and give the readings in the vernacular, as well as nuns to teach their children. So non-territorial ethnic parishes operate side by side.

It is also becoming common for two established parishes to share buildings and facilities as parishes close and combine. St. James (English) and Blessed Sacrament (Spanish) in my former diocese share a pastor church and plant, and stagger their Masses and other events. They have separate parish councils, finances and liturgies.

Neither of those scenarios explains St. Malachi Community. The blurb says it all. The bishop in the 60s was rather conservative and too slow for the liking of some people to implement the changes in liturgy of V2. So some parishes jumped the gun. Also because of its location, near West Side, high-poverty area, they always had a strong awareness of “social justice” issues and amazingly remain a vibrant parish, when so many of the older close-in parishes have closed because the Catholic and ethnic populations have moved out to the suburbs. There developed what amounts to 2 separate parishes with different outlooks, the traditional Irish parish, and the very avant garde group, so they took the route making the de facto situation a reality.

Because the neighborhood has some strong anchors, St. Malachi, the West Side Market, Lutheran Hospital, St. Ignatius High School, Pilgrim Church (congregational) and other institutions it remains strong and fairly healthy in spite of its problems, and there has been a move toward “gentrification”, and some areas are becoming rather fashionable, growth of restaurants, night life etc.

St. Malachi, in cooperation with other organizations has been a large contributor to the health of the neighborhood, which has had its ups and downs, and it is home to some very good people doing some very good things, but it does have a rep as one of the more overtly liberal parishes in town (in the sense we on this board usually assign to that word).
 
I am not going to comment on St. Malachi parish, since it is against forum rules to criticize a specific parish or priest, and in any case my knowledge goes back about 20 years. Note that the second “community” listed is a non-territorial parish, which are historically common in the Cleveland diocese. There were the regular territorial parishes, usually staffed by German or Irish priests (St. Malachi is one of the oldest of the original Irish parishes) but as more immigrants from Italy, Eastern Europe etc. came they wanted priests of their own language and culture, esp. after the turn of the century when priests were allowed to preach and give the readings in the vernacular, as well as nuns to teach their children. So non-territorial ethnic parishes operate side by side.

It is also becoming common for two established parishes to share buildings and facilities as parishes close and combine. St. James (English) and Blessed Sacrament (Spanish) in my former diocese share a pastor church and plant, and stagger their Masses and other events. They have separate parish councils, finances and liturgies.

Neither of those scenarios explains St. Malachi Community. The blurb says it all. The bishop in the 60s was rather conservative and too slow for the liking of some people to implement the changes in liturgy of V2. So some parishes jumped the gun. Also because of its location, near West Side, high-poverty area, they always had a strong awareness of “social justice” issues and amazingly remain a vibrant parish, when so many of the older close-in parishes have closed because the Catholic and ethnic populations have moved out to the suburbs. There developed what amounts to 2 separate parishes with different outlooks, the traditional Irish parish, and the very avant garde group, so they took the route making the de facto situation a reality.

Because the neighborhood has some strong anchors, St. Malachi, the West Side Market, Lutheran Hospital, St. Ignatius High School, Pilgrim Church (congregational) and other institutions it remains strong and fairly healthy in spite of its problems, and there has been a move toward “gentrification”, and some areas are becoming rather fashionable, growth of restaurants, night life etc.

St. Malachi, in cooperation with other organizations has been a large contributor to the health of the neighborhood, which has had its ups and downs, and it is home to some very good people doing some very good things, but it does have a rep as one of the more overtly liberal parishes in town (in the sense we on this board usually assign to that word).
Thanks for the explanation. I was not intending to criticize either of the parishes. I have not been to Mass at St. Malachi, either the regular parish Masses or the community Mass; so I do not intend to judge either the parish or the community. I am aware of the clustering and sharing of a pastor, but I never heard of 2 Catholic parishes sharing the same building. That was what confused me.
 
Same here - Holy Cross Catholic Church and the Lutheran Church of the Cross.
How does this work in your parish? I looked at the websites and saw that Mass is at 9 & 11 a.m., but Lutheran service is also at 9 & 11 a.m.? Does your parish have a gym or hall where services are held?

I know in East Cleveland there is a Catholic parish that also shares the church with an Episcopal parish, but Catholic Mass is earlier in the morning and Episcopal Mass is later.
 
How does this work in your parish? I looked at the websites and saw that Mass is at 9 & 11 a.m., but Lutheran service is also at 9 & 11 a.m.? Does your parish have a gym or hall where services are held?

I know in East Cleveland there is a Catholic parish that also shares the church with an Episcopal parish, but Catholic Mass is earlier in the morning and Episcopal Mass is later.
It’s not my parish, although I do attend there occasionally.

The churches each have separate sanctuaries, but they share a social hall, nursery, etc. and occasionally sponsor interfaith activities.
 
It’s not my parish, although I do attend there occasionally.

The churches each have separate sanctuaries, but they share a social hall, nursery, etc. and occasionally sponsor interfaith activities.
Ok, that makes sense.
 
I would see the generic situation of two parishes in one building as a temporary one with an eye toward growth. For instance, if the Italians wanted their own parish they used to have to start in the (old) parish basement until they had the funds to build a church of their own. It doesn’t make too much sense to me to try to perpetuate two governing structures, especially if linked by the same pastor (in the case of closings), in one building.
 
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