20,000 Muslims Attack a Church in Cairo

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severntofall said:
No there won’t. Muslims should not be treated with violence. We should close our borders to them and avoid their regions at all cost. Nearly a majority of indigeonous Europeans contemplate doing so even now.
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Well his fantasies are disturbing but your xenophobia and bigotry is morally repugnant.
 
severntofall said:
No there won’t. Muslims should not be treated with violence. We should close our borders to them and avoid their regions at all cost. Nearly a majority of indigeonous Europeans contemplate doing so even now.
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Not this indigenous European. And certainly not those indigenous Europeans who are also Muslim. Albanians for example.
 
LDNCatholic said:
Not this indigenous European. And certainly not those indigenous Europeans who are also Muslim. Albanians for example.
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Albanians, Bosnians, Degestanies, Uzbeks, Russians (15% of the population not counting Chechnians) etc.
 
neploho said:
Albanians, Bosnians, Degestanies, Uzbeks, Russians (15% of the population not counting Chechnians) etc.
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Does Uzbekistan count as Europe (just slightly off topic-I always thought it was Central Asia)?
 
neploho said:
Your paraphrased cliche really does not justify or explain your xenophobic desires.
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Then let me rephrase. Islam at it’s current rate of reproduction will eventually be a majority of the worlds population. Once they have obtained a majority in any region, it’s theirs and they ain’t letting it go. I do not wish to live under sharia law nor do I wish it for my decendants. I have no ill will towards the Muhamadites, I just don’t want to live in one of their nations, Let them do their own thing and fail or prosper according to their efforts, I just don’t want to be a part of it.
 
LDNCatholic said:
Not this indigenous European. And certainly not those indigenous Europeans who are also Muslim. Albanians for example.
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I said the majority, not all. And yes, I will admit that you include the primarily islamic nations (and you should) I am wrong. I guess, I should have said the majority of indigenous Western Europeans.
 
Im taking miraculous medals with me when i go to Egypt, hopefully i can have at least a conversion with them!
 
LDNCatholic said:
Does Uzbekistan count as Europe (just slightly off topic-I always thought it was Central Asia)?
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Ah. You are right. They have been part of the Russian Empire since the 19th century were in the USSR until it’s fall. I guess that’s why I associate them so closely with the Russians and Europe.

The important thing, is to make sure no Uzbeks cross over into Russia. Being a Europanish country all hell might break loose if that happened
 
severntofall said:
Then let me rephrase. Islam at it’s current rate of reproduction will eventually be a majority of the worlds population. Once they have obtained a majority in any region, it’s theirs and they ain’t letting it go. I do not wish to live under sharia law nor do I wish it for my decendants. I have no ill will towards the Muhamadites, I just don’t want to live in one of their nations, Let them do their own thing and fail or prosper according to their efforts, I just don’t want to be a part of it.
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You may want to reread this and reconsider your reasoning.
 
severntofall said:
I said the majority, not all. And yes, I will admit that you include the primarily islamic nations (and you should) I am wrong. I guess, I should have said the majority of indigenous Western Europeans.
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I don’t even think most indigenous Europeans would be in favour of that. The far right perhaps.
 
severntofall said:
Then let me rephrase. Islam at it’s current rate of reproduction will eventually be a majority of the worlds population.
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Islam will become the worlds largest religious population, but the claim they will become a majority of the worlds population is more ambagious.
Once they have obtained a majority in any region, it’s theirs and they ain’t letting it go.
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Well of course. As we all know Muslims are a monolithic population.

Just to be safe I will point out that was sarcastic.

Even if demographics support your claim that Muslims will become a majority of the population that would not entail that they will become a majority in any region that permits marginal Muslim migration. What ought we do with the domestic Muslim populations?

There are just so many fallacies with this whole argument it is difficult to know where to start or what to focus on.
I do not wish to live under sharia law nor do I wish it for my decendants.
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Because, as we all know, there is a logical connection between a Muslim majority population and Sharia law. Its kind of like how Italy is subject to Cannon Law.
I have no ill will towards the Muhamadites
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cute
I just don’t want to live in one of their nations
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Sure. because the US is going to become an Islamic state unless we suspend all Muslim immigration.
 
neploho said:
Islam will become the worlds largest religious population, but the claim they will become a majority of the worlds population is more ambagious.

Well of course. As we all know Muslims are a monolithic population.

Just to be safe I will point out that was sarcastic.

Even if demographics support your claim that Muslims will become a majority of the population that would not entail that they will become a majority in any region that permits marginal Muslim migration. What ought we do with the domestic Muslim populations?

We’re stuck with them. Hopefully we can make them more apart of the culture in which they reside…hopefully.

There are just so many fallacies with this whole argument it is difficult to know where to start or what to focus on.

Because, as we all know, there is a logical connection between a Muslim majority population and Sharia law. Its kind of like how Italy is subject to Cannon Law.

There are countless muslims who wish to live under sharia law, it’s a simple matter when they have a majority of the population. Even today there are efforts to make it the legal standard for muslims in Europe.

Sure. because the US is going to become an Islamic state unless we suspend all Muslim immigration.

The world is going to become one eventually. All they have to do is keep reproducing at twice the rate of the rest of us. My friend, isn’t it time for you to rebury your head into the sand?
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neploho said:
Well his fantasies are disturbing but your xenophobia and bigotry is morally repugnant.
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I suspect, although do not necessarily wish to presume, that you have not, in fact, lived (or even temporarily resided) in a Muslim country at any point in your life.

As such, I would question your ability to judge others as xenophobic or bigoted, given your complete lack of comprehension of the vitriol and hatred that Christians in the Middle East have to suffer on a daily basis.

Moreover, your rash (and seemingly obdurate) generalisation of some of the posters on this board, is a little tiresome.

The reality of the situation is that life under Muslim Law is a far cry from the relative religious freedom that is enjoyed in the West (which is, perhaps, one of the reasons that people of a scholarly nature tend to revert discussion to a lesson in objectivity :rolleyes: - such as you have tended to do in this thread).

The Christians of the East, for whom nearly all of their history and tradition, has been decimated by Muslim occupation and domination, bear witness to the fact that the fears of those in this thread are not only grounded in reality, but that their suggestions are also pragmatic in the face of evil.

Their words are not simply an un-educated outburst based on outdated stereotypes 😉
God Bless,
 
Magicsilence said:
I suspect, although do not necessarily wish to presume, that you have not, in fact, lived (or even temporarily resided) in a Muslim country at any point in your life.
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You would be correct. I have also never lived in a majority Catholic country, but if anti-Catholic nativism reemerged I’d oppose that as well.
As such, I would question your ability to judge others as xenophobic or bigoted, given your complete lack of comprehension of the vitriol and hatred that Christians in the Middle East have to suffer on a daily basis.
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The suffering of minority population in some Muslim majority authoritarian states is irrelevant unless the immigrants in question have participated in human rights abuses.
Moreover, your rash (and seemingly obdurate) generalisation of some of the posters on this board, is a little tiresome.
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Neither judgements were rash.
The reality of the situation is that life under Muslim Law is a far cry from the relative religious freedom that is enjoyed in the West
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again, that is irrelevant for the dispute in question.
(which is, perhaps, one of the reasons that people of a scholarly nature tend to revert discussion to a lesson in objectivity :rolleyes: - such as you have tended to do in this thread).
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I don’t know what you mean.
The Christians of the East, for whom nearly all of their history and tradition, has been decimated by Muslim occupation and domination, bear witness to the fact that the fears of those in this thread are not only grounded in reality, but that their suggestions are also pragmatic in the face of evil.
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uh huh
Their words are not simply an un-educated outburst based on outdated stereotypes 😉
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not just outdated stearotypes. Ignorance, methodological incoherance, and fallacisious arguments also contributed.
God Bless,
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Well thank you:)
 
Magicsilence said:
I suspect, although do not necessarily wish to presume, that you have not, in fact, lived (or even temporarily resided) in a Muslim country at any point in your life.

As such, I would question your ability to judge others as xenophobic or bigoted, given your complete lack of comprehension of the vitriol and hatred that Christians in the Middle East have to suffer on a daily basis.

Moreover, your rash (and seemingly obdurate) generalisation of some of the posters on this board, is a little tiresome.

The reality of the situation is that life under Muslim Law is a far cry from the relative religious freedom that is enjoyed in the West (which is, perhaps, one of the reasons that people of a scholarly nature tend to revert discussion to a lesson in objectivity :rolleyes: - such as you have tended to do in this thread).

The Christians of the East, for whom nearly all of their history and tradition, has been decimated by Muslim occupation and domination, bear witness to the fact that the fears of those in this thread are not only grounded in reality, but that their suggestions are also pragmatic in the face of evil.

Their words are not simply an un-educated outburst based on outdated stereotypes 😉
God Bless,
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Wow. I wish I were as capable and eloquent as you my friend. You have stated everything that I have attempted to. Excellent post.
 
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