30,000 denominations of protestantism?

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I’m not a defender of the Reformation or protestantism but I often hear it thrown in protestants faces that there are 30000 different forms of their religion. I think this is unfair.
  1. I’d be hard pressed to name 20 different branches of Protestantism
  2. Even the ones I could list have the same theological beliefs even if their views on morals differ
So what do you say? Isn’t it time catholics abandon this attack on protestants?
 
I’m not a defender of the Reformation or protestantism but I often hear it thrown in protestants faces that there are 30000 different forms of their religion. I think this is unfair.
  1. I’d be hard pressed to name 20 different branches of Protestantism
  2. Even the ones I could list have the same theological beliefs even if their views on morals differ
So what do you say? Isn’t it time catholics abandon this attack on protestants?
I’m a high school student, and my school requires that we take the PSAT. On one of the information forms, there is a spot for “religion” where you fill in the appropriate bubble. Trust me, there’s more than 20 denominations out there.
 
I’m a high school student, and my school requires that we take the PSAT. On one of the information forms, there is a spot for “religion” where you fill in the appropriate bubble. Trust me, there’s more than 20 denominations out there.
Yeah but 30000? Don’t you think that number is a little high? I’m sure that the average catholic couldn’t name 20. So why does the average catholic say 30000?
 
I’m a high school student, and my school requires that we take the PSAT. On one of the information forms, there is a spot for “religion” where you fill in the appropriate bubble. Trust me, there’s more than 20 denominations out there.
He did actually use the word “branches”, of course there are more than 20 denominations but I would imagine the word was carefully selected.
Anglican
Lutheran
Presbyterian
Congregationalist
anabaptist
methodist
baptist
pentecostals
united church of christ
quakers
evangelicals
adventists
new thought or spiritualist
anyone think of anymore “branches”?
 
I’m not a defender of the Reformation or protestantism but I often hear it thrown in protestants faces that there are 30000 different forms of their religion. I think this is unfair.
  1. I’d be hard pressed to name 20 different branches of Protestantism
  2. Even the ones I could list have the same theological beliefs even if their views on morals differ
So what do you say? Isn’t it time catholics abandon this attack on protestants?
I agree. There may be 30,000 different church names, but by no means that many denominations. What I only recently found out (through the help of EWTN radio programming) is that there are many Catholic splinter groups, in addition to the Orthodox Church and other churches that may/may not be in communion with Rome.

-Mark
 
From what I can tell, the number is a lot closer to 20 than 30,000. From a Catholic point of view, I think that part of the number comes from the non-denominational churches. Some count each one as its own denomination. I personally do not like that method, but on paper there is a reason for it. After all, if they were all the same, why are there so many?

I would bet that if you used general catagories and did not sub-divide (for instance, convience a Mizzu Synod Lutherin that they are the same as a ELCA or a Wisconson that they go with either one), the number would be around 50-75. If you got a little more specific, probably somewhere around 150-200. If you count each little dot on the map, who knows. Besides, we have no way to know how many “me and Jesus alone” type of folks, nor do we know how many small groups there are.

It really doesn’t matter. Catholics cannot understand why there is more than one. I could even grant 2 or 3, but how can you justify so many divergent readings of the same scripture?
 
He did actually use the word “branches”, of course there are more than 20 denominations but I would imagine the word was carefully selected.
Anglican
Lutheran
Presbyterian
Congregationalist
anabaptist
methodist
baptist
pentecostals
united church of christ
quakers
evangelicals
adventists
new thought or spiritualist
anyone think of anymore “branches”?
Where would Church of God, COGIC, and Holiness, fall?
 
From what I can tell, the number is a lot closer to 20 than 30,000. From a Catholic point of view, I think that part of the number comes from the non-denominational churches. Some count each one as its own denomination. I personally do not like that method, but on paper there is a reason for it. After all, if they were all the same, why are there so many?

I would bet that if you used general catagories and did not sub-divide (for instance, convience a Mizzu Synod Lutherin that they are the same as a ELCA or a Wisconson that they go with either one), the number would be around 50-75. If you got a little more specific, probably somewhere around 150-200. If you count each little dot on the map, who knows. Besides, we have no way to know how many “me and Jesus alone” type of folks, nor do we know how many small groups there are.

It really doesn’t matter. Catholics cannot understand why there is more than one. I could even grant 2 or 3, but how can you justify so many divergent readings of the same scripture?
Protestants generally agree about the meaning of various scripture. They do disagree on issues that they feel are less important details of the faith but so do catholics. Some catholics are more “feeneyite” in their beliefs about salvation and some are pretty liberal. Some catholics believe in limbo and some do not. Some catholics believe that Mary is the mediatrix of all grace and some don’t. I think a double standard is wrongly being applied to protties.
 
Protestants generally agree about the meaning of various scripture. They do disagree on issues that they feel are less important details of the faith but so do catholics. Some catholics are more “feeneyite” in their beliefs about salvation and some are pretty liberal. Some catholics believe in limbo and some do not. Some catholics believe that Mary is the mediatrix of all grace and some don’t. I think a double standard is wrongly being applied to protties.
Over all I agree.

This points out one divergent point that tends to get ignored in Catholic/Protestant conversation: what is less important and who decides it. For example, I consider the filioque issue very minor, but I would be crazy to try to convence an Orthodox of that.

There is a context issue. Catholics usually only bring up the division thing when discussing which Church was founded by Christ or when they are discussing the concept of “being One as the Father and I are one” from jesus’s prayer in the Gospel of John.

For what it is worth, there is something to be said for going on and leaving if you don’t agree with a teaching. For example, the pro-abortion Catholics are really silly. That said, if you disagree with some things, is it because you don;t know or don’t like it?
 
He did actually use the word “branches”, of course there are more than 20 denominations but I would imagine the word was carefully selected.
Anglican
Lutheran
Presbyterian
Congregationalist
anabaptist
methodist
baptist
pentecostals
united church of christ
quakers
evangelicals
adventists
new thought or spiritualist
anyone think of anymore “branches”?
All of the various Eastern Orthodox divisions
All of the various Oriental Orthodox divisions
Assyrian Church of the East
Jehovah’s Witnesses
Unitarians
Universalists
AME
Amish
Mennonites
Brethren
Numerous Charismatic denominations
Christian Science

Some would also make an argument for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (The Mormons) as well.

Take a look at Wikipedia. They have a pretty huge list of Christian Denominations, and I think it’s broken down in a pretty fair way. It certainly looks well short of 33,000, but its enormous nonetheless.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations
 
All of the various Eastern Orthodox divisions
All of the various Oriental Orthodox divisions
Assyrian Church of the East
Jehovah’s Witnesses
Unitarians
Universalists
AME
Amish
Mennonites
Brethren
Numerous Charismatic denominations
Christian Science

Some would also make an argument for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (The Mormons) as well.

Take a look at Wikipedia. They have a pretty huge list of Christian Denominations, and I think it’s broken down in a pretty fair way. It certainly looks well short of 33,000, but its enormous nonetheless.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations
You can take away the first 3 on your list. They are not protestant.
 
a group of religious congregations having its own organization and a distinctive faith wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
You can’t count every non-denominational church as it’s own denomination (they are one congregation, not a group of congregations), nor all the people who stay home and believe what they want. Denominations are groups of congregations.

Also unreasonable to count non-Christian groups as “Protestant Denominations”
 
Where would Church of God, COGIC, and Holiness, fall?
well church of God in Christ are pentecostals, their origins, not to mention practice are in Asuza street…
Holiness…well I suppose I should have said Wesleyan and that would have been better, but they come under Methodists
which Church of God?
 
QUOTE=Rolltide;3241272]All of the various Eastern Orthodox divisions
All of the various Oriental Orthodox divisions
Assyrian Church of the East
Not Protestant
Jehovah’s Witnesses
not protestant
Unitarians
only 10 percent or so are even Christian, not Protestant at all
Universalists
same as above, but sure some Baptists can also be universalist
uh…what do you think the M stands for?? They fall under Methodists
Amish
Mennonites
Brethren
all anabaptists
Numerous Charismatic denominations
pentecostals
Christian Science
New Thought
Some would also make an argument for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (The Mormons) as well.
Not Protestants.
I am talking branches for my two cents, not specific denominations
 
I’m not a defender of the Reformation or protestantism but I often hear it thrown in protestants faces that there are 30000 different forms of their religion. I think this is unfair.
  1. I’d be hard pressed to name 20 different branches of Protestantism
  2. Even the ones I could list have the same theological beliefs even if their views on morals differ
    So what do you say? Isn’t it time catholics abandon this attack on protestants?
Hi

I checked for the list of Christian Denominations in the wikipedea:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations.
There is a lot of information there.
This is not a complete list, but aims to provide a comprehensible overview of the diversity that exists among denominations of Christianity. Some links may point to non-existent articles. There are approximately 300 branches listed here. According to one source, there are, in all, approximately 38,000 Christian denominations.[1]

Between denominations, theologians and comparative religionists, there are considerable disagreements about which groups can be properly called Christian. These disagreements rise primarily from doctrinal differences between groups. For the purpose of simplicity, this list is intended to reflect the self-understanding of each denomination. Explanations about different opinions concerning their status as Christian denominations can be found at their respective articles.

There is a useful graph also there indicating Major divisions within Christianity which I could not copy/paste here as I have only a modest knowledge of computers, if somebody else does it that would be beneficial.

The reality whatever it is, must be accepted and then those who don’t like so many denominations should work for unity to reduce the numbers to one, if possible. I am among those who would like United Christendum to end double confusion in Christianity, the first because of so many denominations and the second because of abundance of mysteries in this religion.

Thanks
 
Your Total “Christian Denominations” Count for today is 39521. That is your total denominations count as of 1/26/2008. We get this by

// call DaysBetween function to number of days between today and 7/2/2007
var num_days = DaysBetween(today_date, end_date)

// calculate number of denoms
// assumes on 7/2/2007 there were 39000
// assumes by 1/1/2025 there will be 55000

var num_denoms = 39000.0 + (2.502737369 * num_days)

For the facts and stats see here. From a letter by the Gordon Conwell people who professionally catalog and keep all the current stats on denominations.

Thank you for your inquiry. I can assure you that the figure of 39,000 is in no way inflated. This number represents our most current, up-to-date data. As we are constantly updating this figure, it is not published in print form. The figure of 33,800 from the year 2000 was printed in our book World Christian Trends, (Pasadena, CA: William Carey Library, 2001). Part 12 of World Christian Trends (WCT), Table 12-1 gives figures of denominational totals for all 238 countries of the world. These figures are also represented graphically in WCT on page 917, Global Map 14. The definition for denominations used in WCT, and also in our publication World Christian Encyclopedia (Oxford, 2001) is as follows:

“Any agency consisting of a number of congregations or churches voluntarily aligning themselves with it. As a statistical unit in this survey, a ‘denomination’ always refers to one single country. Thus the Roman Catholic Church, although a single organization, is described here as consisting of 236 denominations in the world’s 238 countries.”

More precise listings of denominations can be found in the World Christian Encyclopedia, under the article for each country. These lists are not exhaustive, as there are too many small denominations to list separately, but they should help give a clearer picture. Furthermore, the Southern Baptist Convention has over 40,000 congregations in the US alone; not to mention the Baptist General Conference, Baptist Bible Fellowship International, etc. So we are definitely not counting each congregation as its own denomination. We are also not lumping all Baptists into a single denomination, but counting each organization separately. I hope this information helps.

Justin J. Evans
Research Assistant
Center for the Study of Global Christianity

Phil P
 
Hi

I need an information; sorry, that might be a sort of off the topic.

I understand that at the time of coronation of King Edward VII, he was presented with a copy of New Testament which consisted of about 60 books (normally the number is 27). Does anybody know anything about it?

Thanks
 
Is this a rhetorical question or a question you are asking me. I do not follow.
Sorry, I was not clear. It seems like people disagree because either they do not know or understand the teaching or they do not like or agree with it. One is through no fault of their own, the other one might be.
 
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