300 suspected illegal immigrants caught in SC raid

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I guess a broke government should spend its money arresting workers? It takes them away from giving traffic tickets for minor violations during rush hour. What else is the government good for?
 
Oh, Tex, think again. If you think rush hour is bad now, just wait until traffic laws are *not *enforced.

I have compassion for the illegals - but not sympathy. I have compassion *and *sympathy for the disrupted families, especially for the legal ones.

Breaking the law has risks. Breaking our immigration laws carries the risk of being arrested and deported. You know that, I know that, and they know that. The family of anyone incarcerated for a crime is disrupted. That’s one of the risks a lawbreaker takes.

I support action to expand and speed up the “green card” process. I do not support either ignoring the problem or amnesty. Both just create more problems. US employers need to take more responsibility, too. We have instant background checks for gun buyers; why not instant Social Security checks for employees?

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Texas_Roofer said:
I guess a broke government should spend its money arresting workers? It takes them away from giving traffic tickets for minor violations during rush hour. What else is the government good for?
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Oh, I see it’s the governments fault for arresting people here illegally. No responsibility on the folks who were working here without adequate documentation or the employer?

For shame.

While you may not agree with the rules and the laws, they all know what the stakes are when the laws are broken.

If I speed or drive while impaired, I know what the stakes can be. Decisions can be hard some times and an incorrect one can cost dearly - but this is NOT the big bad governments fault. Sorry, I don’t buy that.
 
i dont agree with illegals working and not paying taxes. but trust me i know how hard it is to become legal. and not all illegals work they may be married to a US citizen but cant come up with the money to get the paperwork done to become legal. you have to know people with money. the paperwork alone costs $1500 and that does not include the doctor costs. and you have to have a sponsor who has to make a certain amount of money. if you dont know somebody like that you are out of luck. and call the immigration people and ask for help or ask if they could tell you how you could find somebody that would sponsor you and they say i cant help you with that. and most people would not want to be a sponsor out of fear that they have to support that person for 5 or more years. (even though most people support themselves they just need the sponsor on paper). and sometimes they turn you done because you didnt fill the paperwork out correctly and you have to start all over. of course you can get a lawyer but thats an additional $1500 or more.
i know some people who are in this situation so if you know somebody who could help please let me know.
 
As you type the government is spending over a trillion dollars to replace missing money. The jail time for the missing trillion dollars will be less than for the worker whom can not legal working status. Our government would be wiser to spend it money more appropreately.
 
I am not interested in how many workers were rounded up, I am asking how many of the agents who own and work for this company were arrested, charged and prosecuted, since they are the ones who broke the law for profit. Until I see prosecutions of employers I will consider such roundups for what they are, immoral persecution of workers in order to shift blame from those responsible. Are the shareholders of this company being held liable or do they continue to profit from illegality by blaming others?
 
Texas_Roofer said:
As you type the government is spending over a trillion dollars to replace missing money. The jail time for the missing trillion dollars will be less than for the worker whom can not legal working status. Our government would be wiser to spend it money more appropriately.
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You’ll get no argument here regarding the printing of money - though that has absolutely nothing to do with illegals being rounded up.
 
puzzleannie said:
I am not interested in how many workers were rounded up, I am asking how many of the agents who own and work for this company were arrested, charged and prosecuted, since they are the ones who broke the law for profit. Until I see prosecutions of employers I will consider such roundups for what they are, immoral persecution of workers in order to shift blame from those responsible. Are the shareholders of this company being held liable or do they continue to profit from illegality by blaming others?
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Managers, supervisors, and the HR director were the first ones arrested. The investigation is continuing and moving on up the corporate chain.

On a side note, at least a half dozen of the illegals arrested had already been deported once.
 
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On a side note, at least a half dozen of the illegals arrested had already been deported once.
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we don’t “deport” anymore. in order not to offend the sensibilities of the illegals and their advocates, we “remove” them.
 
Wirraway said:
we don’t “deport” anymore. in order not to offend the sensibilities of the illegals and their advocates, we “remove” them.
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And we do it with our hand out, see we need their money to finance our police activities. Rather than build a strong America we arrest workers and hide our debts.
 
These poor people. It’s really easy to talk about how they should be deported or removed or whatever…
I see people like this every day. I see them on the street, I shop with them, I buy produce from them. They did break the law, and they shouldn’t have done that. But if I were in their shoes, I might have done the same if it meant getting a better life for my children.
What’s worse than their crimes are the crimes the industry perpetrates against them - read up on some stuff about the meatpacking/slaughter industry and you’ll see what I mean. I shudder when I think of the human rights abuses going on so I can have cheap packaged chicken.
 
pentecostbaby said:
… I shudder when I think of the human rights abuses going on so I can have cheap packaged chicken.
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why are you buying cheap packaged chicken then?

personally, it doesn’t bother me. no one is kidnapping aliens and forcing them to work in sweatshops. the illegals-advocacy pity party never seems to assign blame for the plight of the illegals to the illegals themselves.
 
Texas_Roofer said:
I guess a broke government should spend its money arresting workers? It takes them away from giving traffic tickets for minor violations during rush hour. What else is the government good for?
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Boy You said a truth!makes me so mad when I see these police hiding behind bushes etc during rush hour preying on the unsuspecting motorist. I think its:( a disgrace
 
Wirraway said:
why are you buying cheap packaged chicken then?
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I’m not. It was rhetorical.
And we have an obligation to advocate for fair working conditions for all, regardless of status. You’d be pretty angry if your mother was forced to work in such a dangerous environment, with no worker’s comp, and with exposure to such dangerous chemicals … same principal. Shame on letting someone’s illegal status determine the way we treat them as human beings.
 
To clear up one misstatement, all businesses in SC employing more than three people have to have workers’ compensation insurance or be large enough to be self-insured. Anyone who gets hurt on the job receives the compensation required by law.

I have been through the West Columbia plant before it was bought by House of Raeford and doubt that it has changed much since. The jobs there are pretty much like any factory jobs, repetitive and monotonous, but not nearly as dangerous as some. I don’t know what fringe benefits, if any, the firm offers its hourly workers. It’s not a place I would want to work but isn’t the worst I’ve seen.

There is a large locally owned poultry processor near here that goes to great lengths to see that their immigrant employees are legal, trained, educated, taught English, and have at least the necessities of life. If buying packaged chicken bothers you because of the way the processors treat their workers, try the Amick Farms product. They can’t change the nature of the work and competition keeps the pay low, but at least they’re making the effort to take care of their employees.
 
pentecostbaby said:
I’m not. It was rhetorical.
And we have an obligation to advocate for fair working conditions for all, regardless of status. You’d be pretty angry if your mother was forced to work in such a dangerous environment, with no worker’s comp, and with exposure to such dangerous chemicals … same principal. Shame on letting someone’s illegal status determine the way we treat them as human beings.
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the best way to ensure that illegals aren’t mistreated in the american workplace is to keep them out of the country.

my mother – and why **my **mother? --would never cross a border illegally, so your hypothetical is rejected.

but, since you’re playing the Mom Card, you’d be pretty angry if your mother was assaulted by an illegal especially if that illegal had been removed from the country before and was ineligible for rentry because he was a felon.

shame on assuming that illegals are all downtrodden holy innocents like lambs to the slaughterhouse.

deport them all, let ICE sort them out.
 
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