300 years of state-sponsored discrimination

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Although the two things aren’t exactly the same, it does smack of hypocrisy with this silly law, not that it would bother me anyway, I certainly wouldn’t want to marry into them, plus my wife might object.

But Catholics can’t marry into them, then their government tries to preach about tolerance, and anti-racism.

Religious tolerance, now that’s a joke.
 
No, I’m not unaware of some of the history of all this, of course.

I wasn’t criticizing Irish people for having a historic or even (a somewhat academic, I’d suggest) residual ‘human rights’ interest in the question. My response was just a reaction to reading all these posts and realizing that I don’t think I’ve ever met anybody who cared about the subject.

Personally, I think that William should find a nice Jewish girl, convert . . . .
 
Speaking about religious persecution, yes there are still the remnants of that era, with all the Mass Rocks scattered around Ireland.

With look- outs who kept and eye out for the British while Mass was being held, otherwise if caught who knows what might have happened to them. (killed perhaps)
I can understand though that changing it for the British would be a major headache. Irish people generally though tend to regard it with some humor and a jaundiced eye, since we are a different nationality in any case it has no direct impact on us which is why I was puzzled to see Fr McManus getting heated about it in the article from earlier in the thread.
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I don’t have the slightest interest in what they do, I don’t plan to marry into them anytime soon.

As for Fr Mc’Manus, another subject I know, but I was disappointed to see him backing a pro-choice abortion politician, not impressed Fr.
 
Along with getting rid of the anti-Catholic language in the Bill of Rights and other public documents, I would think that a more enlightened British government and people would make some reparation for the Irish Potato famine and other hostilities and bigotry to the Irish people over the centuries.

I would think that the political liberals & progressives would support such things. But they turn their gaze to oppression in Africa or other distant lands and not with their next-door neighbors.

Such is human nature – but we’re called to rise above that.
 
reggieM said:
I would think that a more enlightened British government and people would make some reparation for the Irish Potato famine and other hostilities and bigotry to the Irish people over the centuries.
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It’s called contribution to the Common Agricultural Policy.
 
reggieM said:
I would think that the political liberals & progressives would support such things. But they turn their gaze to oppression in Africa or other distant lands and not with their next-door neighbors.
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Well, I don’t know that most people would think of the Irish as being oppressed - they seem relatively well-off and their system is democratic so, if they’re feeling oppressed, they only have themselves to blame.
 
Kaninchen said:
What’s that got to do with Ireland itself?
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On Tuesday April 22nd a large group of BT Ireland staff, with support from other CWU members, held a public protest at the corporate head office for British Telecom in Dublin

BT Ireland workers protest against anti-Irish discrimination

The protest was held to publicly highlight the fact that British Telecom is refusing to give collective bargaining rights to a large group of its staff simply because they are Irish.
indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/04/397843.html
 
dosdog said:
On Tuesday April 22nd a large group of BT Ireland staff, with support from other CWU members, held a public protest at the corporate head office for British Telecom in Dublin

BT Ireland workers protest against anti-Irish discrimination

The protest was held to publicly highlight the fact that British Telecom is refusing to give collective bargaining rights to a large group of its staff simply because they are Irish.
indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/04/397843.html
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So, the actions of multinational corporations are all the fault of the Brits?
 
Kaninchen said:
Yes, every day Brits wake up to 19th Century cartoons in their papers.
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Eugenics traces its roots to Britain in the early 1880s, when Sir Francis Galton coined the term to mean “well-born”.his book Studies of Hereditary Genius (1869),
eugenicsarchive.org/eugenics/list3.pl

Houston Stewart Chamberlain
Chamberlain’s anti-Semitism led him to reject the idea of the Jewish-born Messiah of Christianity and to propose an essentially Germanic religion deriving from the symbols of the Aryan race.

The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century (1899), which demonstrates his thesis that the history of a people or race is determined by its racial character and abilities.
answers.com/topic/houston-stewart-chamberlain

Few realize that up until 1930, all Protestant denominations agreed with the Catholic Church’s teaching condemning contraception as sinful. At its 1930 Lambeth Conference, the Anglican church, swayed by growing social pressure, announced that contraception would be allowed in some circumstances. Soon the Anglican church completely caved in, allowing contraception across the board.
catholic.com/library/Birth_Control.asp

Why there is no God
Richard Dawkins October 31, 2006
in Times Online
timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article618796.ece

Britain’s decision to legalize hybrid animal-human embryos

VATICAN CITY, MAY 18, 2007 (Zenit.org)
zenit.org/article-19671?l=english
 
Kaninchen said:
Well, I don’t know that most people would think of the Irish as being oppressed - they seem relatively well-off and their system is democratic so, if they’re feeling oppressed, they only have themselves to blame.
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The point is that they were oppressed, whether the British government ever thought they were or not.

It’s more for the health of England to repair the damage done.

But I think most people view it as you do – they’ve viewed it that way for a long time. The oppression of the Irish by the English which lasted for centuries was “the fault of the Irish” and they “only have themselves to blame”.

That’s a pretty standard view, actually – and it says a lot about the problem.
 
Kaninchen said:
Well, I don’t know that most people would think of the Irish as being oppressed - they seem relatively well-off and their system is democratic so,** if they’re feeling oppressed, they only have themselves to blame**.
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Well did you ever, ignorance is definitely bliss, were not talking about now, were talking about the past few centuries.

And for the past we have only ourselves to blame, can you please elaborate on your term, " they only have themselves to blame" ?
 
hawkeye said:
Well did you ever, ignorance is definitely bliss, were not talking about now, were talking about the past few centuries.

And for the past we have only ourselves to blame, can you please elaborate on your term, " they only have themselves to blame" ?
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If you look at the post I was replying to, it stated:

I would think that the political liberals & progressives would support such things. But they turn their gaze to oppression in Africa or other distant lands and not with their next-door neighbors.

So, what British oppression are the people of the Republic currently suffering?
 
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