3rd class relic done right?

[CJsmommy]

I had the chance the other day to visit the National Shrine of St. Therese. While there I bought a rosary made by a Carmelite nun which I then pressed to the glass of a reliquary which housed a bone fragment of the Little Flower. There was a kneeler there and I tried to be as reverent as possible and prayed that she would accept my making a 3rd class relic with her. Was that the correct way to go about it? She is not my patron saint, although her Carmelite sister Elizabeth of the Trinity was my confirmation patron. Since I went I do have more of an interest in her and I’m starting to read The Story of a Soul.

 

[KnightOfSPUD]

As far as I know, a third class relic requires direct contact with either a first class or a second class relic.

You don’t need to be a devotee to validate the “relicization”.
When I was still in elementary, a bone and glove with the blood of Padre Pio came to visit. All of us were given stampitas with a tiny portion of one of his unused gloves but those gloves were in his possession and were touched by him.

So as of the moment, I do not know whether the relic I have is a second or a third class relic.

 

[thistle]

I had the chance the other day to visit the National Shrine of St. Therese. While there I bought a rosary made by a Carmelite nun which I then pressed to the glass of a reliquary which housed a bone fragment of the Little Flower. There was a kneeler there and I tried to be as reverent as possible and prayed that she would accept my making a 3rd class relic with her. Was that the correct way to go about it? She is not my patron saint, although her Carmelite sister Elizabeth of the Trinity was my confirmation patron. Since I went I do have more of an interest in her and I’m starting to read The Story of a Soul.

What you did does not make the object a third class relic.

A third class relic is any object, such as a piece of cloth, that has been touched to a first-class relic and the reliquary in which a bone of a saint is housed is not a first class relic. The first class relic is the bone inside.

 

[Gertabelle]

With respect, disagreeing with previous posters.

First and second class relics are generally encased in a reliquary which has been given and official seal of a Church leader – Bishop, Cardinal – including their name and the date. This means the relic has been verified to be what it says it is. One must not break that seal in order to touch other objects to the relic and thus create third-class relics.

Here’s what I found regarding relics and their classes:

Relics are physical objects that have a direct association with the saints or with Our Lord. They are usually broken down into three classes. First class relics are the body or fragments of the body of a saint, such as pieces of bone or flesh. Second class relics are something that a saint personally owned, such as a shirt or book (or fragments of those items). Third class relics are those items that a saint touched or that have been touched to a first, second, or another third class relic of a saint.

With regard to third class relics, the touch does not have to be a direct touch to the relic itself. Merely touching the container that houses the relic is sufficient to bring about that transformation and effect a new relic.

This is from this website about St Maria Goretti, sponsored by the group Treasures of the Church.

Sorry, I don’t have time to do a deeper search to find something more authoritative.

To answer your question though, yes, your rosary is now a third class relic of St Therese.

 

[CJsmommy]

With respect, disagreeing with previous posters.

First and second class relics are generally encased in a reliquary which has been given and official seal of a Church leader – Bishop, Cardinal – including their name and the date. This means the relic has been verified to be what it says it is. One must not break that seal in order to touch other objects to the relic and thus create third-class relics.

Here’s what I found regarding relics and their classes:

This is from this website about St Maria Goretti, sponsored by the group Treasures of the Church.

Sorry, I don’t have time to do a deeper search to find something more authoritative.

To answer your question though, yes, your rosary is now a third class relic of St Therese.

Hmm… well the reliquary was itself housed in a glass case. The shrine is a little museum with that reliquary and several second class relics all housed behind glass. But if a touch to another third class relic works, I have a little cloth in a medal of Bl. Elizabeth of the Trinity that was sent from the Carmelites overseas.

 

[thistle]

With respect, disagreeing with previous posters.

First and second class relics are generally encased in a reliquary which has been given and official seal of a Church leader – Bishop, Cardinal – including their name and the date. This means the relic has been verified to be what it says it is. One must not break that seal in order to touch other objects to the relic and thus create third-class relics.

Here’s what I found regarding relics and their classes:

This is from this website about St Maria Goretti, sponsored by the group Treasures of the Church.

Sorry, I don’t have time to do a deeper search to find something more authoritative.

To answer your question though, yes, your rosary is now a third class relic of St Therese.

That is wrong. A third class relic is created by touching an object directly to a first class relic and not the container housing it.

Father John Hardon’s Modern Catholic Dictionary (which carries the Imprimi Potest, Nihil Obstat, and Imprimatur):

RELIC. An object connected with a saint, e.g., part of the body or clothing or something the person had used or touched. Authentic relics are venerated with the Church’s warm approbation. They may not be bought or sold. Those of a martyr are placed in the altar stone at the consecration of an altar. Relics are of three classes: the first is part of the saint’s body and is the type placed in the altar stone; the second is part of the clothing or anything used during the saint’s life; and the third is any other object, such as a piece of cloth, that has been touched to a first-class relic. (Etym. Latin reliquiae, remains.)

 

[CJsmommy]

I found the answer to my own question on here

http://mariagoretti.com/about-relics/

With regard to third class relics, the touch does not have to be a direct touch to the relic itself. Merely touching the container that houses the relic is sufficient to bring about that transformation and effect a new relic.

I also read somewhere else that if the container is touched with the intention of making a relic that a relic is made.

 

[thistle]

When anyone says they have found the Church answer to relics they are wrong.

The Church does NOT have any official documented classification of relics.

What I quoted from Father Hardon in an earlier post is the classification of relics according to Church tradition.

Any digressing from that is not Church tradition but simply the result of so many people nowadays wanting relics that they are finding ways to water down how to make a third class relic in order to have one.