40% of babies born to unmarried women !!!

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Regina_Love said:
There is no sin in having a child outside of Marriage. Having a child is NEVER a sin. A child is always a blessing. The sin is have sexual relations outside of marriage. It’s important we differentiate the two. Making girls and women feel shame for being pregnant when they are not married is why many abort! But the shame should not be about being pregnant, but about sexual promiscuity. There are a couple of million families wanting to adopt, but they can’t find a baby/child because they have all been aborted:(
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It was extremely easy to infer the poster was referring to having sex outside of marriage.
 
In cultures where masculinity and fatherhood are demonized, this problem will be common.
By their fruits, you shall know them!
 
Sam_777 said:
Adultery: Commandment #6, a mortal sin.
Abortion: Commandment #7, a mortal sin.

Those who are committing both have double mortal sins…
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Thanks for filling us all in on something we’ve been told since we were old enough to comprehend the words of those commandments.

In the examples given in the scriptures, Christ tells sinners to go an sin no more. We should do the same. Call sin sinful, tell those living in sin to seek forgiveness and amend their lives. What did you expect to gain by starting this thread? Did you happen to think there would be some sort of unique audience here for you to stand on your soapbox and preach in front of? Your posts seem ridiculous and trollish,

Lets, for a second, examine one common emotional cause of fornication and sexual sin: The desire for communion and bonding. Is this desire intrinsically bad and wrong? Absolutely not. This desire, though manifested in unhealthy and sinful ways, is absolutely good. The means by which many of us (mankind) seek communion and intimacy are absolutely wrong an sinful, but all of this is so, SO easily forgiven. All a person must do is seek out the most wonderful sacrament of reconciliation and they are forgiven completely and instantaneously. From the personal experiences of my past, I can tell you that regret after these sins is, for many, instant and fierce.
 
This trend is a tragedy, and soon we will see 75% of all children born out of wedlock. The point is not so much that these children weren’t aborted (which is of course always a good thing), but that they were concevied in the first place. We cannot go on forever accepting single motherhood as if it is a viable family rearing choice, just because it means that someone didn’t have an abortion. It’s like our morals are held hostage, we must accept all of these babies because “at least they weren’t aborted.” The key predictor for happiness in life will soon be defined as whether your parents had a life-long marriage or not. And a generation or two ago, this was not even an issue for 90% of the population. Out-of-wedlock childbirth is contributing to the demise of our society. We cannot afford to pay for these mothers and their children, and there are not enough people who can help them. Men must be responsible for their actions, even if they go to jail. Somewhere along the line someone must be held accountable for the rearing of these children. It’s an overwhelming problem. Our sick, lost culture is killing us, most especially the most vulnerable-unborn children. I look for a spiritual solution since this is fundamentally a spirtual problem. Many ethical problems here. I don’t even know how to sort it out.
 
robotsarecool said:
This ^. So many men and women who have premarital sex, like Saint Augustine, go on to live good lives that honor God. Instead of damning them and shunning them, we need to help them and remember we are sinners as well.
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This is true, but we need to be helpful without for one moment underestimating the gravity of the sin. Pretending that premarital sex “isn’t that bad” was a large part of what got us where we are today. It might be “nice” to someone to pretend that premarital sex is not so bad, but it is certainly not kind. How can people repent of something that “isn’t that bad”?
 
Cupofkindness said:
This trend is a tragedy, and soon we will see 75% of all children born out of wedlock. The point is not so much that these children weren’t aborted (which is of course always a good thing), but that they were concevied in the first place. We cannot go on forever accepting single motherhood as if it is a viable family rearing choice, just because it means that someone didn’t have an abortion. **It’s like our morals are held hostage, we must accept all of these babies because “at least they weren’t aborted.” The key predictor for happiness in life will soon be defined as whether your parents had a life-long marriage or not. **And a generation or two ago, this was not even an issue for 90% of the population. Out-of-wedlock childbirth is contributing to the demise of our society. We cannot afford to pay for these mothers and their children, and there are not enough people who can help them. Men must be responsible for their actions, even if they go to jail. Somewhere along the line someone must be held accountable for the rearing of these children. It’s an overwhelming problem. Our sick, lost culture is killing us, most especially the most vulnerable-unborn children. I look for a spiritual solution since this is fundamentally a spirtual problem. Many ethical problems here. I don’t even know how to sort it out.
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You appear to condemning the birth of some children by virtue of them being born to unmarried women - Your words I have bolded. All children are gifts from God. They and their births should be celebrated.
 
Cupofkindness said:
The point is not so much that these children weren’t aborted (which is of course always a good thing), but that they were concevied in the first place. We cannot go on forever accepting single motherhood as if it is a viable family rearing choice, just because it means that someone didn’t have an abortion.
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And a generation or two ago, this was not even an issue for 90% of the population. Out-of-wedlock childbirth is contributing to the demise of our society. We cannot afford to pay for these mothers and their children, and there are not enough people who can help them. Men must be responsible for their actions, even if they go to jail.
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Somewhere along the line someone must be held accountable for the rearing of these children. It’s an overwhelming problem. Our sick, lost culture is killing us, most especially the most vulnerable-unborn children. I look for a spiritual solution since this is fundamentally a spirtual problem. Many ethical problems here.
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Sillara said:
This is true, but we need to be helpful without for one moment underestimating the gravity of the sin. Pretending that premarital sex “isn’t that bad” was a large part of what got us where we are today. It might be “nice” to someone to pretend that premarital sex is not so bad, but it is certainly not kind. How can people repent of something that “isn’t that bad”?
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Sorry, but when did I ever say it wasn’t that bad? Sin is bad and we are all horrible sinners. I was trying to point out (just in other phrasing) to hate the sin, but not the sinner. People tend to outcast these women who need help and need God. If we treat them like trash (as Catholics), why would they want anything to do with the Church? They wouldn’t.

I am glad the Church didn’t do that to my Mother in law when she became pregnant with my husband. Her making that mistake of premarital sex and getting pregnant, made her realize she needed to repent and come back into the fold of the Catholic Church. They accepted her and supported her with open arms. I am so glad they did. If they didn’t who knows, my husband may not have been raised a Catholic and may not be religious today.
 
severus68 said:
You appear to condemning the birth of some children by virtue of them being born to unmarried women - Your words I have bolded. All children are gifts from God. They and their births should be celebrated.
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I don’t think that was Cupofkindness’s intent. What is a tragedy is babies being deliberately deprived of a father and of a family. That’s where the increasingly out of wedlock rate leads us—to fatherless families, to single parent households. And to poverty, to poor education, to poor future prospects. Deliberate atomization of the family undermines the foundations of our society. Unless stable families again become the norm—not currently a likely proposition—our civilization will fail.
 
Friday_child said:
I have to agree with Shatterpoint and Kib. Although these women have committed a sin at least they have not committed a worse one by destroying the life they have created. I do think it is important that a child have a father figure but there is no reason why this can not be a grandfather or uncle.
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I must agree with this as someone who was born to an unmarried mother and who has been raised surrounded by other male role models. I have never once felt that I missed out on anything by not having a father in the home, as my granfather, uncle and also my older cousins often took up many of the tasks and responsibilities of looking after me and raising me correctly.
 
JimG said:
I don’t think that was Cupofkindness’s intent. What is a tragedy is babies being deliberately deprived of a father and of a family. That’s where the increasingly out of wedlock rate leads us—to fatherless families, to single parent households. And to poverty, to poor education, to poor future prospects. Deliberate atomization of the family undermines the foundations of our society. Unless stable families again become the norm—not currently a likely proposition—our civilization will fail.
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This. Not to mention that a sizable portion of the people in prison come from single parent (usually the mother) homes.
 
Sarcelle said:
This. Not to mention that a sizable portion of the people in prison come from single parent (usually the mother) homes.
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Precisely. Because in any community with a very high out of wedlock birth rate, family stability has vanished; mothers and children suffer the consequences–economic, social, legal, and yes, fathers suffer the consequences too. Deprived of respect as head of a family they often turn to gangs and crime.
 
severus68 said:
You appear to condemning the birth of some children by virtue of them being born to unmarried women - Your words I have bolded. All children are gifts from God. They and their births should be celebrated.
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So tell me Severus, how are you celebrating their births? How much time have you spent in the company of an unmarried mother and her children? How much money have you sacrificed for the sake of these children? Do you tutor them? Take them to the doctor? Pay for their braces? Remember their birthdays? Help potty train them? Light candles for them in church? Listen to a beaten-down woman as she tries to cope with the life she has created for herself? I do not condemn the children born out-of-wedlock, but pity their cirucmstances and deplore these relentless trends which are the demise of Christian culture. Moreover, I have to pay for the lifestyles of these people as well. That is simply unfair. I have worked with these people for a long long time. Poor unmarried mothers face really tough, tough obstacles and the only way to turn it around for them is to practically adopt them and their children and graft them unto your own family tree. Who will protect these children if they are abandoned by their own father? Very few people are willing to do that, nor is that any guarantee of success, even measured in simple terms.
 
Sam_777 said:
*October 31, 2012:
**“More than 40 percent of all babies born in the country last year, the report said, were born to unmarried women.” *http://forums.catholic-questions.or...atholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon13.gif Link.

WAKE-UP people WAKE-UP, and remember that you are committing a mortal sin, and the consequence is no inheritance of GOD’s Kingdom (1 Corinthians 6:9-10):
“Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”
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That is destabilizing to society.
 
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