With respect, I don’t see how that could be. Who among the Anglicans believes in transubstantiation? Does any Anglican bishop or priest teach it? Given Apostolicae Curae
papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13curae.htm which you brought up, how would an Anglican even make it happen? Transubstantiation for an Anglican, there’s a condemnation on it in an Anglican’s charter from the 16th century…right?
Re: the 39 articles, would you agree at one time all Anglicans believed in them? That’s your heritage. And there are obviously Anglicans today who still believe in them and teach from them…true? If the 39 articles are so universally disregarded as you say, then why haven’t they been tossed? Aren’t they also in your book of common prayer?
I’m just exploring this with you. I don’t see how an Anglican would pass the following provision
§4.“provided that they manifest Catholic faith in respect to these sacraments and are properly disposed.”
help me understand your position
A fair portion of Anglo-Catholic Anglicans believe in transubstantiation, but you would have to ask (I would have to ask, too, generally). But not necessarily in that as a
de fide explanation of the real presence. You may have seen this sort of discussion from Lutherans on here, too. Me, I have absolutely no problem with transubstantiation. It seems as noble an attempt to explain how the the wheels go around, in confecting the sacrament, as one could hope for.
An Anglican priest would make it happen precisely as does a RC priest, through valid form, intent, matter and minister.* Apostolicae Curae * is a binding judgment on RCs (and you certainly should affirm it). Anglicans have a different view of the matter.
The Articles are not an Anglican charter. They are not and were not binding on Anglicans in general,
ab initio, but only were required, by Act of Parliament (Act of Subscription, 1571), to be affirmed (not opposed) by clergy (not laity) of the Church of England. Anglicans, in general, manifest a range of attitudes to them, as I said.
It is not known if all Anglicans ever believed in them. But the range of Anglican positions on the points that were stated in them has been present from the first and is primarily seen in the Tractarian movement/Oxford group, and the later Ritualists. Such folk are usually known as Anglo-Catholics.
Some Anglicans effectively have tossed them. Not in their entirety, since a portion of them are mere Trinitarian Christianity, and some (on the reformed/evangelical side of the Anglican spectrum), still will affirm them. But there is nothing that requires Anglicans, generally, to do so.
In some senses they have been tossed. As I said, they are now listed in the 1979 Episcopal Prayer Book as historical documents. And the 1968 Lambeth Conference (a decennial meeting of the official Anglican Communion), passed the following resolution:
"Resolution 43
The Ministry - The Thirty-Nine Articles
The Conference accepts the main conclusion of the Report of the Archbishops’ Commission on Christian Doctrine entitled “Subscription and Assent to the Thirty-nine Articles” (1968) and in furtherance of its recommendation:
(a) suggests that each Church of our Communion consider whether the Articles need be bound up with its Prayer Book;
(b) suggests to the Churches of the Anglican Communion that assent to the Thirty-nine Articles be no longer required of ordinands;
(c) suggests that, when subscription is required to the Articles or other elements in the Anglican tradition, it should be required, and given, only in the context of a statement which gives the full range of our inheritance of faith and sets the Articles in their historical context."
This resolution is reflective of the Articles’ status amongst Anglicans generally, but certainly doesn’t mean that no Anglicans subscribe to them. Or that any necessarily need to, merely because that document existed. Motley.
Yes, they are in the Book of Common Prayer I use, the 1928 Episcopal Book. They are never referenced or mentioned. We know they represent history, statecraft as theology, fro 450 years ago.
To see if a given Anglican manifests Catholic faith in respect to these sacraments, you are going to have to ask him. No short cuts.
I started posting on line, about 12 years ago, to help other RCs who had some little confusion about Anglicanism. Oddly enough, the first person to respond to me is currently a poster on this board.
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