54-day rosary novena and the luminous mysteries

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I only just heard of Fortuna Agrelli and the 54-day rosary for the first time. I stumbled upon this website:

novenaforournation.com/54-day-novena/

It seems like a legitimate apparition, but on the website above in indicates that only the Joyful, Sorrowful, and Glorious mysteries are to be prayed, not the luminous because as the websites says, “this novena was given by Our Lady as noted above in 1884 and only allows for the Joyful, Sorrowful and Glorious Mysteries.”

I’m not sure what to think of this. Is this legitimate or is this akin to the people thinking masses should only be said entirely in Latin because that’s what we used to do?
 
It’s too bad we can’t just pray the rosary, complete, including Luminous, simply because we love the Lord and desire to petition Him through Our Lady. 🤷

Do what you want,
It’s a private devotion and a very WORTHY and effective one at that.
The Luminous mysteries were a great addition.
There are many misconceptions regarding the “history” of the Rosary. Some people love the 54 day Novena, I just don’t ever think I’ve gotten through the whole thing, for many reasons. I do try to pray my rosary daily though.
Just pray. It pleases Our Lady.
God bless you, and welcome to the for a, btw. 🙂
 
Yes, I would follow the traditional 3 mysteries, as it is a part of the 54 day devotion. If I remember, Mary asked for a certain number of novenas within this novena, that would be complete by only using the 3 traditional mysteries. When the the novena is completed, then you can switch back to the Luminous Mysteries on Thursday.

I heard that this is an extremely powerful novena, BTW. You’ll probably be comfortable praying the Rosary daily, after this novena is completed.
 
thementalwombat said:
I only just heard of Fortuna Agrelli and the 54-day rosary for the first time. I stumbled upon this website:

novenaforournation.com/54-day-novena/

It seems like a legitimate apparition, but on the website above in indicates that only the Joyful, Sorrowful, and Glorious mysteries are to be prayed, not the luminous because as the websites says, “this novena was given by Our Lady as noted above in 1884 and only allows for the Joyful, Sorrowful and Glorious Mysteries.”

I’m not sure what to think of this. Is this legitimate or is this akin to the people thinking masses should only be said entirely in Latin because that’s what we used to do?
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It makes sense that the devotion was created with only the 15 mysteries used.

That said, there should be no issue with you tacking on the Luminous mysteries if you wish to. It’s not as if it will “invalidate” something. This isn’t some sort of ritual, it’s just a devotion.

It’s more likely that that comment on the website that says to exclude the Luminous mysteries was written by a person who 1) knows that the novena at its creation didn’t have the Luminous mysteries, 2) personally dislikes/avoids the Luminous mysteries, and 3) thinks that somehow this means the novena should not be said with the Luminous mysteries.

You can rest assured that the apparition did not say to exclude the Luminous mysteries because, of course, they did not yet exist at the time.
 
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It makes sense that the devotion was created with only the 15 mysteries used.

That said, there should be no issue with you tacking on the Luminous mysteries if you wish to. It’s not as if it will “invalidate” something. This isn’t some sort of ritual, it’s just a devotion.

It’s more likely that that comment on the website that says to exclude the Luminous mysteries was written by a person who 1) knows that the novena at its creation didn’t have the Luminous mysteries, 2) personally dislikes/avoids the Luminous mysteries, and 3) thinks that somehow this means the novena should not be said with the Luminous mysteries.

You can rest assured that the apparition did not say to exclude the Luminous mysteries because, of course, they did not yet exist at the time.
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True.

It is not a magic ritual that could be rendered ineffective due to the inclusion of the Luminous mysteries. You could include it or not.
 
thementalwombat said:
I only just heard of Fortuna Agrelli and the 54-day rosary for the first time. I stumbled upon this website:

novenaforournation.com/54-day-novena/

It seems like a legitimate apparition, but on the website above in indicates that only the Joyful, Sorrowful, and Glorious mysteries are to be prayed, not the luminous because as the websites says, “this novena was given by Our Lady as noted above in 1884 and only allows for the Joyful, Sorrowful and Glorious Mysteries.”

I’m not sure what to think of this. Is this legitimate or is this akin to the people thinking masses should only be said entirely in Latin because that’s what we used to do?
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The Luminous Mysteries are a recent innovation. There is nothing wrong with praying the 54-day Rosary novena as is on that website with just the Joyful, Sorrowful and Glorious Mysteries.
 
Thanks you for the responses! They were all very helpful.

I think the whole “magic ritual” part was kind of what rubbed me the wrong way because that’s what it felt like. Although since 54 is divisible by three but not four I can understand why excluding the Luminous might be preferable.

Thank you again! 🙂
 
Besides what others have already posted in this thread, another option is a kind of “doing both.” Many people can both follow the usual 54-day novena schedule and also pray the luminous mysteries “separately,” maybe once a week or so.
 
Thanks for posting this topic!

I want to join in the 54-day novena they’re talking about here: novenaforournation.com/54-day-novena/ It starts this Monday, the Assumption, and goes till the feast of the Holy Rosary on October 7, and is meant to be prayed for America (and we sure need it!)

But I wish I could find solid information on where that requirement about the order of the mysteries comes from. We’re told to pray Joyful, Sorrowful, Glorious and then immediately start over with Joyful, and there are 54-day schedules to keep it all straight. To me that’s a needless added complication, and it makes much more sense to pray the mystery that goes with the day-- Glorious on Sunday, Sorrowful on Friday, etc. If the Blessed Virgin asked specifically for that rigid order, then I will gladly do it! But I suspect it’s just one of those things that someone threw in there and now everyone’s copying it without knowing where it came from.
 
You may be correct that the rigidness of it was added by someone’s interpretation. Keep in mind that this is a private revelation, and as such is not binding on the Church as a whole. As someone else rightly pointed out it is a private devotion, not a magic formula, and as such we may pray the rosary with the luminous mysteries, and by extension I expect we could pray the mysteries we would normally pray for that day.

I expect that Our Lady recommended the order indicated because at the time there were only the 3 sets of mysteries of the rosary and so it divided nicely into the 54 days. I think we’re safe either way as the most important thing is that we pray regardless of the specific formula we use.
 
I think you’re right, especially that the most important thing is to actually pray. So now that I’ve posted on a messageboard about it, I’ll try to make sure to actually do it!
 
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