666 Holy Number in Islam?

[Booklover]

OK,

For goodness sakes people. I am down with the love fest here, but can someone PLEASE answer my original question? I am the OP on this thread, and I really would like to know…is 666 a holy number in Islam or not?

Thanks!

I tried searching on Answering-Islam for this but could not really find anything that would answer your question.

I did find this on the FFI site on one of the debates that Ali Sina and a Muslim had. The Muslim was accusing Jews and Christians of being terrorists to the power of 666!

Vickie

 

[hamba2han]

I tried searching on Answering-Islam for this but could not really find anything that would answer your question.

The fact that there are no references or even a mention in the ‘Answering-Islam’ website is indeed the confirmation that the number 666 has no significance whatsoever in Islam.

 

[Kadaveri]

The reason 666 is considered an inauspicious number is not because of the Book of Revelation, because the Book itself was simply invoking the art of numerology, where the number 6 has many meanings. One of those meanings means “imperfection”, because 6 is one short of 7, and 7 is considered the “perfect” number.

But 666 need not be considered necessarily “evil”, from a numerological perspective. Add 6 + 6 + 6 and you get 18; add 1 + 8 and you get 9, which is the number of “completion”. The number 7 also means completion, but 9 carries that idea of “completion” further.

A number that is considered sort of “sacred”, especially by the Shi’ites, is 19.

19 isn’t considered sacred by Muslims, Sunni or Shi’a (anyone telling you Shi’a consider 19 to be sacred is wrong). The only people who think it’s sacred are those who follow Rashad Khalifa’s “submitter” cult that appeared around the 1980s, not Muslims.

But anyway, that doesn’t have much to do with ‘666’.

 

[Booklover]

The fact that there are no references or even a mention in the ‘Answering-Islam’ website is indeed the confirmation that the number 666 has no significance whatsoever in Islam.

Did you even bother to check out the link I posted?

Vickie

 

[Kadaveri]

Did you check the link given by the guy in the link you posted (you know what I mean)? He’s not a Muslim.

But still, Hamba has a fine point. Answering-Islam is by far the most comprehensive collection of Christian anti-Islamic polemics on the web, yet they don’t have any page on 666 having any significance in Islam. If it did those guys would have jumped on it faster than you could say AntiChrist.

 

[pprimeau1976]

This is a post from another message board. I don’t know if it’s true, but it’s chilling. According to the supposed Muslim source cited:

"The number 666 is highly publicized all over the world and it is associated with evil and danger.

However, it is not what it seems. It was a Satanic trick.
The trick was to prevent the people approaching the 666.
Satan knew that the 666 is the book of GOD and the people should be kept away from it.
According to his plan, he placed a bad image to the number 666."

Yet another messageboard was even more chilling when you look at the written and printed 666 and compared it to the Arabic name of “Allah”. You have to scroll down to view the picture.

 

[Kadaveri]

Again, that isn’t an Islamic site, it’s part of Rashad Khalifa’s cult (the endless mathematical gibberish is a huuuuuge give-away). Just scroll a few paragraphs down the page and you’ll see the author condemning all Abrahamic religions as Satanic, including Islam:
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"With his agents, he added verses to the Quran after Muhammad`s death.
He added verses of 128 and 129 in to Sura 9. He invented new books, Hadith and Sunna beside the Quran.
He tried to do the same plan to Islam.
He used his agent Marwan ibn al Hakam (died 65 AH/684 AD) to destroy the original written by Muhammad.
He did hide the mathematical code, the proof of the Quran, the number 19.
He made his own religion, Mecca centered so called islam."**

 

[pprimeau1976]

Again, that isn’t an Islamic site, it’s part of Rashad Khalifa’s cult (the endless mathematical gibberish is a huuuuuge give-away). Just scroll a few paragraphs down the page and you’ll see the author condemning all Abrahamic religions as Satanic, including Islam:

"With his agents, he added verses to the Quran after Muhammad`s death.
He added verses of 128 and 129 in to Sura 9. He invented new books, Hadith and Sunna beside the Quran.
He tried to do the same plan to Islam.
He used his agent Marwan ibn al Hakam (died 65 AH/684 AD) to destroy the original written by Muhammad.
He did hide the mathematical code, the proof of the Quran, the number 19.
He made his own religion, Mecca centered so called islam."

Did you know that Rashad Khalifa was assasinated in 1990 and 1+9+9+0 = 19!

I am just playing around.

 

[Ahimsa]

666 need not be considered an ‘evil’ number. So if some religion incorporates 666 in a positive way, that doesn’t mean that that religion is glorifying ‘evil’. Like I said before, 666 has multiple meanings, some good, some not so good. To wit:

In the movie π, the protagonist is searching for hidden numerical patterns in the stock market and the Torah. Each Hebrew letter corresponds to a number. The true name of God is said to correspond to a 216 digit number. Ironically, the number 216 is the multiplication product of 6 x 6 x 6 = 216. 666 is considered the number of the beast or Satan note: yes, but only in Christian theology].

And further:

The 216-letter name of God sought by the characters of the film is actually widely known and called the Shemhamphorash or the Divided Name. It comes from Exodus 14:19-21. Each of these three verses is composed of seventy-two letters in the original Hebrew. If one writes the three verses one above the other, the first from right to left, the second from left to right, and the third from right to left, one gets seventy-two columns of three-letter names of God. The seventy-two names are divided into four columns of eighteen names each. Each of the four columns represents one of the four letters of the Tetragrammaton.

666, or numbers associated with 666, need not be considered evil, in the eyes of non-Christian religions.

 

[meedo]

Hello,

I am an arab muslim from Egypt.

I have never ever heared of any mention of any holy or ultra special numbers in Islam .

Hope that helps ,

Thanks

Meedo

 

[Verisimilitude]

Hello,
I am an arab muslim from Egypt.

Hi,
Could you tell me your understanding of the Jinn- like those in Sura 72? Are these spirits active in today’s world if also in the past?

Are you familiar with Leprechauns or gremlins as mischievous creatures as is common folklore in the West? I’d be curious to know if you think the jinn are anything similar to that, and/or if the jinn are always observed in a religious point of view.

Thanks

 

[Ilocia]

Hi,
Could you tell me your understanding of the Jinn- like those in Sura 72? Are these spirits active in today’s world if also in the past?

Yes they are

Are you familiar with Leprechauns or gremlins as mischievous creatures as is common folklore in the West? I’d be curious to know if you think the jinn are anything similar to that, and/or if the jinn are always observed in a religious point of view.

Thanks

One question… are human allowed to marry muslim jinns?

thanks for your answer!!

 

[persepolis]

when this topic started to discuss about numbers, I thought that it would be a nice theory at last…
bye the way… I believe in numbers… I start with dimensions:
when you understand dimensions of world, you will understand about Jinns and others…
humans’ body is a 3D body but he can see 2 dimensions with his eyes. Imagine a 2D animal or a creature. What do you think about it’s eyes? it must be smaller than 2D…
you have no idea about 1D creature but now imagine a creature with more than 3 dimensions! how would be possible to see that creature?
…

Second is about world system (I don’t know if there is a philosophical idiom)
when I use mathematics to explain the worlds’ events, the question is how would be predictable?! see this page to understand how world is going bigger and out of this system and control. so we are going far away from the beginging.Number Spiral. this was a math example like Fibonacci number…
astronomy example. and also for biology
…

I don’t know Codex Gigas very well but it has a page named Heavenly City… The building contains some floors… In some countries people believe #7 as a holy number… Islam talks about heavens 8 doors and 7 doors of the hell… I believe in Heaven, but I think the Earth would be the hell (like a page of Codex Gigas)…

in Zoroaster, there is a story about 3 floors of heaven (1.Stars, 2.Moon, 3.A high and long light like in black hole)
some picture of black hole with long light (gamma): Pic1 Pic2

tell me what do you think about these subjects and descriptions…

 

[geometer]

OK,

For goodness sakes people. I am down with the love fest here, but can someone PLEASE answer my original question? I am the OP on this thread, and I really would like to know…is 666 a holy number in Islam or not?

Thanks!

Probably not. Like another poster had said the number 19 has been written about quite a bit. I do not believe that Islam or Judsism believe that numbers themselves are evil or holy, so christianity likewise should hot hold such a belief.

In Islam the text of the Koran has passages and paragraphs which when counted in various way sum up in numbers divisible by 19. There are so many of these that this is regarded as a miracle.

The number given in revelation is given as three greek letters whose values are 600:60:6.

Someone mentioned numerology, and showed a few calculations, but those calculation techniques were not used in ancient gematria methods. There are four such methods.

Numerology was a modern development in divination made by two jewish women near the turn of the century, more than 100 years ago now. All forms of judaism reject divinatory practices.

600:60:6 these numbers are all assigned to a single attribute of God, which is called beauty. Beauty is a very good thing, but according to jewish tradition if it is overemphasized it becomes an evil thing.

Best regards,

Vince

 

[matahari]

I am looking into this, is 666 considered a Holy number in Islam?

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According to Our Lady’s messages to Fr.Gobbi the number 333 signifies Divinity.
Lucifer rebels against God and wishes to place himself above God . He [L] bears the sign 666…him who sets himself against Christ . Of the Antichrist

In 666 A.D. a new attack against Christianity came in the form of Islam which denies the Trinity and divinity of Christ. Islam tried to destroy Christianity by military force.

 

[Sam_777]

when this topic started to discuss about numbers, I thought that it would be a nice theory at last…

Take a look at this thread:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=5161459#post5161459

 

[Eucharisted]

I am looking into this, is 666 considered a Holy number in Islam?

No, it isn’t. I think 99 is, though, since Allah has “a hundred names minus one.”

 

[rtconstant]

Probably not. Like another poster had said the number 19 has been written about quite a bit. I do not believe that Islam or Judsism believe that numbers themselves are evil or holy, so christianity likewise should hot hold such a belief.

In Islam the text of the Koran has passages and paragraphs which when counted in various way sum up in numbers divisible by 19. There are so many of these that this is regarded as a miracle.

The number given in revelation is given as three greek letters whose values are 600:60:6.

Someone mentioned numerology, and showed a few calculations, but those calculation techniques were not used in ancient gematria methods. There are four such methods.

Numerology was a modern development in divination made by two jewish women near the turn of the century, more than 100 years ago now. All forms of judaism reject divinatory practices.

600:60:6 these numbers are all assigned to a single attribute of God, which is called beauty. Beauty is a very good thing, but according to jewish tradition if it is overemphasized it becomes an evil thing.

Best regards,

Vince

Just an aside I think that numbers are important to Judaism. Well maybe important isn’t the right word, but I do think they are significant. That was my impression anyway. I believe that this is an aspect of Qabalah ? I realize that isn’t something that is universally practiced but I think its something that has always been there. I could be wrong though.

As to the OP I’ve never heard anything in Islam regarding 666. And as noted before if the anti-Islam sites don’t mention it, then its a good bet it doesn’t exist.

 

[geometer]

As to the OP I’ve never heard anything in Islam regarding 666. And as noted before if the anti-Islam sites don’t mention it, then its a good bet it doesn’t exist.

The Jewish mystical tradition known as Kabbalah is an oral tradition, which was not offered to everyone. It was only to be studied by men who were well schooled in Torah and talmud and who were at least 40 years old. Currently Kabbalah is being offered to everyone by some schools. It is said that not everyone needs to study Kabbalah. It is thought that Kabbalah is best for people whose faith has been weakened by the study of philosophical ideas.

The Sufi tradition in Islam has never been offered to everyone and remains secret and only communicated among men.