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CountrySinger
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30 pounds. I think the sarcasm didn’t come through on my previous post.
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flyingfish
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Hehe it did, I was just curious. That’s awesome though
Seems like you lost it in only a month?
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CountrySinger
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But when you start out fat, you lose a lot of weight really quickly (usually 5-7 pounds a week) because the huge drop in calories eaten.Hehe it did, I was just curious. That’s awesome though
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flyingfish
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What do you eat? How much do you exercise? That just seems so fast! The only time I ever lost that much weight so fast was when I has severe flu for 2 weeks, and lay in bed and ate absolutely nothing for the entire 2 weeks.
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CountrySinger
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I’m impatient, so it has to come off fast. I injured mt foot, so I can’t do the exercises that I want to do (having a cast does that). But I lift weights and have a bike for your arms (I don’t know how else to describe it). I eat around a 1000 calories a day, since I can’t exercise that much. Once I start my hard core exercise, I’ll eat around 1200-1400 calories. I eat mostly fruits, veggies, and eggs. It’s a vegatarian diet.
Today I broke it, the boyfriend and I had breakfast for dinner. Yummy.
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ManOnFire
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Silly? Really? Well, here you go, do a google search on it, and you’ll fing that spicy foods release endorphins, which are the body’s natural pain killers. Runners are addicted to endorphins, also known as “runner’s high.” Link: livestrong.com/health-article/spicy-food-addiction-caused-endorphins_8a8b76b8-d5a9-7af1-f863-c97b9be0bbc6/
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purplesunshine
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This is not a legitimate posting…its a blog…less worthy of being taken seriously than wikipedia…it’s not even backed up by actual medical research. It’s been reposted verbatum several places over the internet without any background. If you’re going to bother posting please don’t re-post someone’s opinion when it comes to facts.
This is a NYT posting that concludes that spice can save one from salt (which can be far more damaging and CAN cause food cravings.)
nytimes.com/1983/09/21/garden/eating-spicy-food-what-are-the-effects.html?&pagewanted=1
A legitimate article from a fitness magazine
fitnessmagazine.com/recipes/healthy-eating/nutrition/health-benefits-of-spices-herbs/
Web-MD a well-regarded site boasts of spice in their “Ten ways to boost your metabolism” website
women.webmd.com/family-health-9/slideshow-boost-your-metabolism
If you want to go blog for blog this blog completely disagrees with yours:
weightloss.suite101.com/article.cfm/can_eating_spices_help_with_weight_loss
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zaramarie81
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I would be careful in saying that all runners are addicted to endorphins. Endorphins are a natural, God-given response of the body. It is not necessarily a disorder to experience pleasure. Gosh, when a woman breastfeeds her body releases oxytocin which triggers bonding centers in the brain and overall good feelings. God designed our bodies to do many wonderful things, and not all bodily responses to hormones or neurotransmitters are signs of dysfunction. I think it’s important to remember here that true addiction is a disordered state that only some struggle with and it can take various forms. If a person is addicted to food, then perhaps this idea of making food a bit more bland will be helpful to them. But many of us are *not *addicted to food and spices are a healthy, natural way to encourage healthy eating. Your thread is interesting and thought-provoking and helpful to some, but like so many things in life, it will not apply to all.
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ManOnFire
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healthy, Bland foods: Better and less painful to not tease the brain.
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purplesunshine
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ManOnFire
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EASY to prove. Just give up spices, diet soft drinks in favor of water, and tastier foods in favor of healthy, bland foods. If they’re not addictive, you won’t miss them.
Getting back to your above references (I only had a limited amount of time to respond earlier), NONE of your references DENIED that body’s “natural high” painkillers (the same one that is released when skydiving), Endorphin, is released when eating spicy foods. But my references did. Your NY TImes article was from 1983.
Since spices release the body’s “natural high” painkillers, endorphins, then this means these spicy foods might be MORE addictive than rich foods or diet soft drinks as a mild form of drug addiction, like the runner’s high or skydiver’s high!
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purplesunshine
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Your referances??? You had one link to a blog that has no medical background…in fact there’s nothing to prove that you didn’t posted that blog yourself. That being said, your endorphin conclusion is loose at best because endorphines can be released at all sorts of levels…by wearing a comfortable sweater… and again, that referance medical bearing on spice consumption.
You are using anacdotal evidence and drawing from limited cultural above. My articles, in the very least, provided facts. So far you have provided none.
I spent 6 weeks on a wilderness survival course. What your body often craves (from what I learned) aren’t spices but complicated trans-fats, over-processed flour and super-refined sugars. This makes much more sense than your theory because at least 1/2 the world eats food that is moderately to heavily spicy and don’t (traditionally) have problems with obesity. Spices range from mild (like raisins) to extreme (like habenero). Eating a bowl of steal-cut oatmeal with raisins and brown sugar/honey/natural maple syrup is MUCH better than eating a bag of instant box “plain” oatmeal. In the same way eating whole-grain macroni with home-made tomato sauce (with garlic, onions, pepper) is much better than eating “plain” bland spaghettio’s. EVEN if you eat more. Each of those ingredients (garlic, onions, pepper) have great nutrients.
Also, putting hot sauce, garlic, curry powder on a piece of celery won’t add much to the calorie count. When you eat a stick of celery you actually burn more calories in the chewing and digestion that it can provide, so if you ate 1 stick or 1 pound (provoked by spice) you wouldn’t gain any weight.
So again. Show me some actual proof.
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flyingfish
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I read a study in a health journal a while back, I don’t know if it’s peer reviewed, but it pretty much said that the more flavor combinations you pile in the more tempting and addictive the food is, and the more likely you are to overeat. So while eating butter mixed up with sugar and flour won’t tempt you, a cake will. Salt, spices, pretty much any kind of taste enhancer was in there.
I think it was called Nutrition Action Letter or something.
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purplesunshine
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Unless you’re a raw vegan you’re not going to eliminate flavor combinations. Bread, because its a comfort food, is positively addicting but its “bland” even by itself. You don’t need spices to make it addicting. In fact, lots of high-starch foods are bland but can be very addicting on their own.
I’m still not convinced that spices can cause any kind of overeating, if that was the case all Middle Americans, Asians, Middle Eastern people and many South Americans would have problems with clinical obesity. (that is before western “processed” food was introduced)
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purplesunshine
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As far as this. I only drink water. I’m allergic to high fructose corn syrup. At the very most I have tea. But I disagree with the theory. Soda isn’t addicting because of the flavor but because of the high artificial sugar and complex preservatives. Infact, people who drink “natural” sodas such as Jones often will consume less simply becuase it has less sugar, less salt and less chemicals that make you want to drink more. The soda companies know what they’re doing.
I eat alot of rice, lentils and other foods. I eat a lot of garlic, onion, spice…I even have a bottle of general tso’s sauce on hand. My pallet is extremely healthy and extremely flavorful.
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flyingfish
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Well the article didn’t say that flavors were the only addicting thing, or that the absence necessarily means it’s not addicting. You might not need spices to make someone want to eat bread, but the claim of the article was pretty much that a person might be tempted to eat more garlic bread, or more sweet bread, or other flavored bread than just plain bread.
Or be more tempted to eat a piece of meat covered in salt and spices, and eat more of it, than just eat it plain.
I don’t know about obesity in other cultures, processed foods are doubtless a bigger problem than salt and pepper, but that paper was more about how to avoid triggers for overeating.
I don’t think you need a scientist to tell you that you’ll be more likely to overeat on something that tastes good rather than something plain or disgusting.
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ManOnFire
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It seems as though you’re completely missing the point of the Original Post. The brain REMEMBERS the pleasure highs of zero-calorie diet drinks, spices, sugar, salt, etc. Dieting for 2 bland meals per day and then splurging for one tasty meal per day DOES NOT and NEVER WILL work because if your brain can talk you into SELECTING the “good taste,” why would anyone voluntarily select the bland one? Once you eat healthy, bland meals all day every day, you’re brain doesn’t miss it as much! Freedom from the enslavement of food!
I’M THE PROOF. I became accustomed to having dessert after every dinner to the point that I NEEDED it after every dinner. Once I started eating bland desserts, dessert was no longer attractive. I made it a point to have no cheese or soft drinks. I lost weight to the point that I was so skinny that several relatives thought I was ill. Not a bad problem to have. It was easy to gain a few pounds.
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mini_me640
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Stop eating processed, sugary, trans-fatty artificial foods and eat whole, unprocessed foods, naturally raised meat, organic produce, and whole grains and you will likely lose weight and be healthier without having to give up the pleasure of food.
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petitfleur
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I think its an interesting point- glad its working for you.
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petitfleur
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okay this is opposite of your point but country singer- try cutting you orange into slices lengthwise and sprinkeling cinnamon on them. its really tasty sorry
OP is fruit off the table then for you? I do see some of your point. I struggle with weight myself. I see how sweet things can stimulate something you dont want too.
Gives me something to think about for sure.
OP is fruit off the table then for you? I do see some of your point. I struggle with weight myself. I see how sweet things can stimulate something you dont want too.
Gives me something to think about for sure.
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