A brief history of political islam

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Let us forgive; but never forget (no matter what muslims may claim) the history of political islam.

I fear that it will attempt to raise it’s poisonous head again in our life times; this can never be allowed.

The history of political Islam starts with Mohammed’s immigration to Medina. From that point on, Islam’s appeal to the world has always had the dualistic option of joining a glorious religion or being the subject of political pressure and violence. After the immigration to Medina, Islam became violent when persuasion failed. Jihad entered the world.

After Mohammed’s death, Abu Bakr, the second caliph, settled the theological arguments of those who wished to leave Islam with the political action of death by the sword. The jihad of Umar (the second caliph, a pope-king) exploded into the world of the unbelievers. Jihad destroyed a Christian Middle East and a Christian North Africa. Soon it was the fate of the Persian Zoroastrian and the Hindu to be the victims of jihad. The history of political Islam is the destruction of Christianity in the Middle East, Egypt, Turkey and North Africa. Half of Christianity was lost. Before Islam, North Africa was the southern part of Europe (part of the Roman Empire). Around 60 million Christians were slaughtered during the jihadic conquest.

Half of the glorious Hindu civilization was annihilated and 80 million Hindus killed.

The first Western Buddhists were the Greeks descended from Alexander the Great’s army in what is now Afghanistan. Jihad destroyed all of Buddhism along the silk route. About 10 million Buddhists died. The conquest of Buddhism is the practical result of pacifism.

Zoarasterianism was eliminated from Persia.

The Jews became permanent dhimmis throughout Islam.

In Africa over 120 million Christians and animists have died over the last 1400 years of jihad.

Approximately 270 million nonbelievers died over the last 1400 years for the glory of political Islam. These are the Tears of Jihad which are not taught in any school.
 
The Jews became permanent dhimmis throughout Islam.
So has every non-Moslem in the ‘Moslem world’. The Islamification of history has many westerners spouting the “Jews and Christians lived in peace with Moslems” before the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
 
In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

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…I fear that it will attempt to raise it’s poisonous head again in our life times; this can never be allowed.
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The Jews and the Christians will never be pleased with you, until you follow their faith.

O Muhammad, tell them : “Allah’s guidance is the only guidance;” and if after all the knowledge you have received, you yield to their desires, there shall be none to protect you or help you from the wrath of Allah.

Those to whom We have given the book and who read it as it ought to be read, they are the ones who believe in it; as for those who reject it, they are for sure the losers

Qur’an 2:120-121
 
The Jews and the Christians will never be pleased with you, until you follow their faith.
I have no interest in converting you to my religion.
So the quran is dead wrong there.

I just do not want your religious laws imposed on me.
 
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I have no interest in converting you to my religion.
So the quran is dead wrong there.
Quran is not wrong . God warned believers in holy Quran that how Muslims will find Jews hostile to them , how disbelievers will try to mislead them .

Surely u know , in your own holy book , God scolded Jews because how they disobeyed God so many times ; how they killed many Prophets of God Almighty . Jesus (pbuh) is another example . Jews tried to kill him & before the end day , after his second coming , Jews will again try to kill him.

Before attacking Islam , why not write about the history of Jews ?
 
Quran is not wrong . God warned believers in holy Quran that how Muslims will find Jews hostile to them , how disbelievers will try to mislead them .
Again I am not hostile to muslims. I am married to a muslim woman.
I just dont agree with political islam. If islam was to give up on its political aspirations, I would have no problem with it, whatsoever.

Let me state this clearly

I have no problem with muslims, or even religious islam

I have a huge problem with political islam.
 
So has every non-Moslem in the ‘Moslem world’. The Islamification of history has many westerners spouting the “Jews and Christians lived in peace with Moslems” before the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
Actually, they did. Historically Islam has been more tolerant of the other two great religions than Christianity. Probably because they were the youngest of the three monotheistic faiths, and as the “new kid on the block” couldn’t afford to be overly antagonistic to their elder “brothers”.

There’s always been a strong distinction made in Islam between polytheists (pagans) and fellow monotheists (“people of the book”). The attitude toward polytheists has for religious reasons been one of unmitigated hostility whereas the stance toward fellow monotheists has been one of accomodation and even fellowship, generally speaking.

Added: now that you mention it, I wouldn’t be surprised if Islam were not non-exclusivist in matters of salvation as well. Does anyone know if muslims believe Christians and Jews can go to heaven?
 
Let us forgive; but never forget (no matter what muslims may claim) the history of political islam.

I fear that it will attempt to raise it’s poisonous head again in our life times; this can never be allowed.

The history of political Islam starts with Mohammed’s immigration to Medina. From that point on, Islam’s appeal to the world has always had the dualistic option of joining a glorious religion or being the subject of political pressure and violence. After the immigration to Medina, Islam became violent when persuasion failed. Jihad entered the world. ]/quote]

**Algebra was Islamic or not?

You have bypassed the 13 years of life of hardship of Muhammad in Makkah. Why is that? The extreme opression that Muhammad and his men suffered at the hands of the pagan Arabs is a big history. Peopel had to take refuge in a nearby christian country.

. That pain and suffering was much more than Jesus suffered for about three hours on the cross. And you have bypassed that without any word?**
After Mohammed’s death, Abu Bakr, the second caliph, settled the theological arguments of those who wished to leave Islam with the political action of death by the sword
 
Added: now that you mention it, I wouldn’t be surprised if Islam were not non-exclusivist in matters of salvation as well. Does anyone know if muslims believe Christians and Jews can go to heaven?
nopes…jews and christians are going to hell.
 
Actually, they did. Historically Islam has been more tolerant of the other two great religions than Christianity. Probably because they were the youngest of the three monotheistic faiths, and as the “new kid on the block” couldn’t afford to be overly antagonistic to their elder “brothers”.

There’s always been a strong distinction made in Islam between polytheists (pagans) and fellow monotheists (“people of the book”). The attitude toward polytheists has for religious reasons been one of unmitigated hostility whereas the stance toward fellow monotheists has been one of accomodation and even fellowship, generally speaking.

Added: now that you mention it, I wouldn’t be surprised if Islam were not non-exclusivist in matters of salvation as well. Does anyone know if muslims believe Christians and Jews can go to heaven?
I doubt the Armenians would agree with you. Hindu’s w/ 80 million dead…
 
nopes…jews and christians are going to hell.
**The reply by Algebra that Jews and Christians will go to hell is not true. It is an absolutely wrong reply and it is ignorance about the Quran. Please see:

Al Quran verse 02:62:

“Surely, those who are believers and those who are Jews and christians and people of other faiths, whoever believes in Allah (i.e. God) and the (accountability of) the last day and does good deeds, they will have their reward with their Lord. And they willnot have any fear (of the future) nor any sorrow (about the past).”**

This verse is not saying that they will go to hell. It is telling the Jews and the christains about the good news of their good deeds.
I am sure there is nothing in the bibleNT about christians. They were all Jews at that time. The writers of the bible were all Jews (except John who is said to be gentile). Anyhow, none of the writers of gospels were christians. So what does bible say about christians that they will go to heavens? When there is no mention of any christian in the bibleNT. Please think over all these things.

algebra, you say that Jews and christians will go to hell. Well Islam does not say that. If they want to go to hell, we will not stop them.
 
I doubt the Armenians would agree with you. Hindu’s w/ 80 million dead…
Wasn’t the genocide of the Armenians perpetrated by Ataturk’s secularist government? If so it seems unfair to blame it on Islam.

Whereas during the explicitly Islamic Ottoman period Turkey had a large community of Christians, if I’m not mistaken.
 
algebra, you say that Jews and christians will go to hell. Well Islam does not say that. If they want to go to hell, we will not stop them.
Rubbish that verse has been abrogated by the verse that says that after this day no religion other than islam will be accepted by Allah.
 
So do I. Christianity does not teach exclusivity.
Historically, Catholic Christianity certainly did. Today the position is more nuanced and may be read in a number of different ways, but remains much more favorable for non-Catholic Christians than members of other faiths.
 
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