A Call To All Protestants

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Would you please be so good as to show me where is, “The Believer’s Prayer,” or whatever it’s called, (‘I accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord & Savior’) in the Bible?

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adstrinity said:
Would you please be so good as to show me where is, “The Believer’s Prayer,” or whatever it’s called, (‘I accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord & Savior’) in the Bible?

Thank you. Bless.
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It is not there. For some it is a “form” of the Creeds, which is just another way of saying what you believe. Believe it or not, lots of Protestants do not believe in anything like the sinner’s prayer.
 
Not all, not even most Protestants believe in this, but something like it can be found in the baptismal vows made by adult converts to Catholicism.
 
reteeks21 said:
Believe it or not, lots of Protestants do not believe in anything like the sinner’s prayer.
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I think those that reject infant baptism are more into the “sinner’s prayer”. :confused: I heard a Lutheran pastor talk about this just a few days ago.
 
Jerusha said:
I think those that reject infant baptism are more into the “sinner’s prayer”. :confused:
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They do; good observation. I don’t believe in that sort of “prayer”, but I do believe in the Creed(s), and I believe in infant baptism.
 
adstrinity said:
Would you please be so good as to show me where is, “The Believer’s Prayer,” or whatever it’s called, (‘I accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord & Savior’) in the Bible?

Thank you. Bless.
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Do you mean what is commonly referred to as “the sinner’s prayer”? Nothing in it conflicts with anything in Scripture, and with the caveat that most who promote it do not believe in the efficacy of sacraments, nothing in that prayer contradicts Catholic teaching.
 
reteeks21 said:
It is not there. For some it is a “form” of the Creeds, which is just another way of saying what you believe. Believe it or not, lots of Protestants do not believe in anything like the sinner’s prayer.
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Alright, well, for those that do, can you show me where it is?

I refuse to believe that this is not at least inferred to in the BIble. I want that source.
 
I think most Evangelicals would use the “sinners prayer”. I think you’d find the basis for it in the story of the two men who went to the temple to pray…the Publican wouldn’t even raise his eyes to heaven and said “God be merciful to me a sinner.”…he went away justified.
 
adstrinity said:
Would you please be so good as to show me where is, “The Believer’s Prayer,” or whatever it’s called, (‘I accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord & Savior’) in the Bible?

Thank you. Bless.
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Do you know how it goes?
 
Publisher said:
I think most Evangelicals would use the “sinners prayer”. I think you’d find the basis for it in the story of the two men who went to the temple to pray…the Publican wouldn’t even raise his eyes to heaven and said “God be merciful to me a sinner.”…he went away justified.
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I just saw a preacher - white, with grey hair, in a grey robe, with black stripes - on tv invite the people watching to recite the prayer. Afterwards the people watching were asked if they said the prayer they could know more by writing to an address and receive a book - not the Bible 🤷 -. Not sure if there was any money involved like with mr feelgood Joel Olsteen
 
Hi,
Im a born again evangelical chrisitian who doesnt even know what the sinners pray says:blush: but,

I dont know any BAC who believes saying the prayer is what saves you anyway. It is your motive behind the words–IOW–do you mean what you are saying:thumbsup: If you dont mean what you are saying it is just lip service and of no effect.

Im thinking that whoever started this may have gotten the idea from Romans 10:8-13
8But what does it say? “(A)THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”–that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,
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9that (B)if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and (C)believe in your heart that (D)God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
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10for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
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11For the Scripture says, “(E)WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.”
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12For (F)there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is (G)Lord of (H)all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him;
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13for “(I)WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.”
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adstrinity said:
Would you please be so good as to show me where is, “The Believer’s Prayer,” or whatever it’s called, (‘I accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord & Savior’) in the Bible?

Thank you. Bless.
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Since I’m a recovering Protestant, may I chime in?

Two points to make here:

“The Believer’s Prayer” or “The Sinner’s Prayer” is not a pro-forma prayer as a Catholic would recognize (The Our Father, The Hail Mary, etc), but rather a broad brush term for the paryer invoked when one “gets saved”. 🤷 Losely based on what many evangelicals would call The ABC’s of salvation: ask/admit, believe, and confess. Many would also point to “The Romans Road to Salvation”: four disconnected verses from Romans (I can provide specifics should you require them).

Where is it in the bible? It isn’t. Then again, where is the 2nd half of the Hail Mary? The Chaplet of The Devine Mercy?
I think you see my point.

-Michael
 
BanksOfTheTiber said:
Since I’m a recovering Protestant, may I chime in?

Two points to make here:

“The Believer’s Prayer” or “The Sinner’s Prayer” is not a pro-forma prayer as a Catholic would recognize (The Our Father, The Hail Mary, etc), but rather a broad brush term for the paryer invoked when one “gets saved”. 🤷 Losely based on what many evangelical’s would call The ABC’s of salvation: ask/admit, believe, and confess. Many would also point to “The Romans Road to Salvation”: four disconnected verses from Romans (I can provide specifics should you require them).

Where is it in the bible? It isn’t. Then again, where is the 2nd half of the Hail Mary? The Chaplet of The Devine Mercy?
I think you see my point.

-Michael
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Welcome, Banks. Please don’t refer to yourself as a “recovering Protestant.” Unlike Catholics who leave the Church, we Protestants do not need to chuck our past or demean it.
 
Again, there is no real difference between “the sinner’s prayer” and all the prayers earnest catechumens offer before their baptisms and then of course their baptismal vows.

But I think what is really being asked is, where is the biblical mandate for “getting saved” by a decision, or by the recitation of a prayer?

It isn’t there, but then, most proponents of the altar call and the sinner’s prayer do not believe that the mere saying of the prayer is what saves, rather, the grace of God in Christ saves sinners. This prayer is just the expression of their willingness to turn from sin and be saved.
 
Steadfast said:
Again, there is no real difference between “the sinner’s prayer” and all the prayers earnest catechumens offer before their baptisms and then of course their baptismal vows.

But I think what is really being asked is, where is the biblical mandate for “getting saved” by a decision, or by the recitation of a prayer?

It isn’t there, but then, most proponents of the altar call and the sinner’s prayer do not believe that the mere saying of the prayer is what saves, rather, the grace of God in Christ saves sinners. This prayer is just the expression of their willingness to turn from sin and be saved.
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Dumb quesiton: if it isn’t there, why is there some call for it by some sola scriptura folks? Same with alter call?
 
adstrinity said:
Would you please be so good as to show me where is, “The Believer’s Prayer,” or whatever it’s called, (‘I accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord & Savior’) in the Bible?

Thank you. Bless.
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The example of prayer described by Publisher about the “personal” prayer by the humble publican is a good one.

The thief on the cross showing his “personal” faith in Jesus as Lord by his request to Jesus would be another.

We know that the Bible is clear about the fact that God is made up of Three PERSONS in ONE GOD.
We also know that we are each a created “person” by that God.
Any dealings we have with the Person of Jesus, as our Lord and Saviour, are going to therefore have to be “personal”, so I reject the “wisdom” of persons that seem to think our having a “personal Lord and Saviour” is not in the Bible.
The invention of the need for additional faith in a non-personal organization, such as any church or any church-prescribed works of our own merit, as a necessary part of our salvation is what is not truly found in the Bible.

The Bible is very clear about our required faith in Jesus to become born from above. Read Romans to see that our true faith is the only thing that saves us.
There are many professors of true faith, who might have used that prayer you make fun of to become eternally saved, if the Holy Spirit was in it. There are also many professors that are only saying “Lord,Lord”, if the Holy Spirit is not in it.
You can see by the examples of the publican and the thief on the cross, that there does not need to be any particular form of prayer that might be what the Holy Spirit uses.

Some think that being repetitious with prayer according to a formula is the correct method. Jesus said that pagans use that method and commanded that we must not do it that way. Think about it.
 
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