A cartoon is published. And there is Muslim outrage.

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Muslim outrage? Let’s do a little historical review. Just some highlights:
  • Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.
  • A Muslim attacks a missionary children’s school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.
  • Let’s go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.
  • Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.
Dead children. Dead tourists. Dead teachers. Dead doctors and nurses. Death, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of Muslims … no Muslim outrage … but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban and all hell breaks loose.

Is this really about cartoons? They’re rampaging and burning flags. They’re looking for Europeans to kidnap. They’re threatening innkeepers and generally raising holy Muslim hell not because of any outrage over a cartoon. They’re outraged because it is part of the Islamic jihadist culture to be outraged. You don’t really need a reason. You just need an excuse. Wandering around, destroying property, murdering children, firing guns into the air and feigning outrage over the slightest perceived insult is to a jihadist what tailgating is to a Steeler’s fan.

I know and understand that these bloodthirsty murderers do not represent the majority of the world’s Muslims. When, though, do they become outraged? When do they take to the streets to express their outrage at the radicals who are making their religion the object of worldwide hatred and ridicule?

Islamic writer Salman Rushdie wrote of these silent Muslims in a New York Times article three years ago.

“As their ancient, deeply civilized culture of love, art and philosophical reflection is hijacked by paranoiacs, racists, liars, male supremacists, tyrants, fanatics and violence junkies, why are they not screaming?”

Indeed. Why not?
 
Although it’s said hard and against my better judgment to paint with one brush. It is tough to argue with your post…
 
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jay29:
Muslim outrage? Let’s do a little historical review. Just some highlights:
  • Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.
  • A Muslim attacks a missionary children’s school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.
  • Let’s go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.
  • Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.
Dead children. Dead tourists. Dead teachers. Dead doctors and nurses. Death, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of Muslims … no Muslim outrage … but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban and all hell breaks loose.

Is this really about cartoons? They’re rampaging and burning flags. They’re looking for Europeans to kidnap. They’re threatening innkeepers and generally raising holy Muslim hell not because of any outrage over a cartoon. They’re outraged because it is part of the Islamic jihadist culture to be outraged. You don’t really need a reason. You just need an excuse. Wandering around, destroying property, murdering children, firing guns into the air and feigning outrage over the slightest perceived insult is to a jihadist what tailgating is to a Steeler’s fan.

I know and understand that these bloodthirsty murderers do not represent the majority of the world’s Muslims. When, though, do they become outraged? When do they take to the streets to express their outrage at the radicals who are making their religion the object of worldwide hatred and ridicule?

Islamic writer Salman Rushdie wrote of these silent Muslims in a New York Times article three years ago.

“As their ancient, deeply civilized culture of love, art and philosophical reflection is hijacked by paranoiacs, racists, liars, male supremacists, tyrants, fanatics and violence junkies, why are they not screaming?”

Indeed. Why not?
This is definitely a keeper for the archives, just in case I suddenly have a soft heart for the peaceful religion.
 
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jay29:
Muslim outrage? Let’s do a little historical review. Just some highlights:
  • Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.
  • A Muslim attacks a missionary children’s school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.
  • Let’s go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.
  • Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.
Dead children. Dead tourists. Dead teachers. Dead doctors and nurses. Death, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of Muslims … no Muslim outrage … but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban and all hell breaks loose.

Is this really about cartoons? They’re rampaging and burning flags. They’re looking for Europeans to kidnap. They’re threatening innkeepers and generally raising holy Muslim hell not because of any outrage over a cartoon. They’re outraged because it is part of the Islamic jihadist culture to be outraged. You don’t really need a reason. You just need an excuse. Wandering around, destroying property, murdering children, firing guns into the air and feigning outrage over the slightest perceived insult is to a jihadist what tailgating is to a Steeler’s fan.

I know and understand that these bloodthirsty murderers do not represent the majority of the world’s Muslims. When, though, do they become outraged? When do they take to the streets to express their outrage at the radicals who are making their religion the object of worldwide hatred and ridicule?

Islamic writer Salman Rushdie wrote of these silent Muslims in a New York Times article three years ago.

“As their ancient, deeply civilized culture of love, art and philosophical reflection is hijacked by paranoiacs, racists, liars, male supremacists, tyrants, fanatics and violence junkies, why are they not screaming?”

Indeed. Why not?
A Religion of Death.
 
Given the propensity of the media NOT to report good as well as bad news, can we really be sure there was no Muslim outrage?

The radical side of Islam is a master at manipulating the media.
Ever ask yourself why all of the protest banners being carried during these riots are in english? It certainly is not for the benefit of the non-english people that surround them. My guess is that it is for the english speaking reporters.

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The Cartoon Intifada
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By Clifford D. May Scripps Howard News Service February 9, 2006
http://www.defenddemocracy.org/doc_img/355703.jpg Muslim demonstrators have been torching embassies, stoning churches and threatening mass murder – to protest cartoons characterizing Muslims as violent extremists.

They have been burning flags and stomping on crosses and Stars of David – to express their outrage at those who say they are intolerant.

The damage these demonstrators are doing to the image of Islam is incalculable, far beyond what any poison-penned cartoonist could accomplish. So why are they doing it?

Machiavelli provided the answer more than 500 years ago. For those who would rule, he said, it is better “to be feared than loved.”

By now, all but the most self-deluded among us recognize that Militant Islamists are waging a War Against the West, a deadly jihad against Christians, Jews, Hindus and moderate Muslims. These religiously inspired fascists have no interest in being loved by “infidels.” They do, however, want to inspire fear – and they do want to rule.

The international intifada that has erupted – ostensibly in response to 12 cartoons first published in a Danish newspaper in September – is merely the Militant Islamists’ latest tactic. The charge most frequently leveled against the protestors is hypocrisy. How can they be up in arms over a few cartoons lampooning Muslims when, in many Muslim societies, Jews and Christians are routinely characterized in the most vicious terms and images? But that misses the point.

The Militant Islamists are not demanding equality. They are demanding superiority. They are Muslim supremacists – ideological heirs to those who, in the 20th century, fought for Aryan supremacy and white supremacy.

Yousef Al-Qaradhawi – leader of the European Council for Fatwa and Research and president of the International Association of Muslim Scholars – is seen by some as the “hidden hand” behind the protests. He has candidly declared: “Islam will return to Europe as the conqueror.”

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al-Qaeda commander in Iraq, has elaborated: “Killing the infidels is our religion, slaughtering them is our religion, until they convert to Islam or pay us tribute.”

And in fact, for years the West has paid tribute, not least to Saudi Arabia’s theocratic rulers. We have allowed mosques in America and Europe to be taken over by Saudi agents who see to it that their radical brand of Islam is both preached and practiced.

At the same time, we have meekly accepted that there can be not a single church or synagogue on Saudi soil. We accept, too, that while Americans and Europeans may convert to Islam, in Saudi Arabia abandoning the faith is a crime punishable by death.

(see pg. 2)
 
(pg. 2)

The Saudis were the first to recall their ambassador from Copenhagen in response to the publication of cartoons in Danish newspapers. And here the plot thickens: It now appears that three faked cartoons – of a far more obviously offensive nature than those published in Denmark – also were distributed in the Middle East, to make sure the fabled “Muslim street” would rise up as instructed.

The mainstream media appears little interested in this alleged manipulation. Indeed, most Western news outlets are not even giving readers and viewers the opportunity to judge for themselves whether the cartoons that were published in Denmark do insult the Muslim faith – or whether they only ridicule the Militant Islamists who offer Heavenly virgins to those willing to suicide-bomb children.

News executives claim they want to avoid giving offense. But if they were practicing self-censorship out of fear would they admit it?

More than a few moderate Muslims understand what is really going on. A Jordanian editor published some of the Danish cartoons to show they are not as offensive as advertised. He was promptly fired and arrested.

Ayatollah Ali al-Sistanti, Iraq’s leading cleric, was scathing about those who “have exploited this …to spread their poison and revive the old hatreds with new methods.”

But, in the end, there is little that liberal Muslims can do. They don’t have the oil money. They don’t control the Middle East’s mosques, media or governments. And they, too, can be intimidated by the threat of violence.

Militant Islamism is least of all about religion. It’s mostly about power. The Cartoon Intifida has not been a spontaneous uprising in response to a gratuitous insult. It’s one front in an expanding war of arms and ideas being waged against the West.

And it appears to be working. If, in the process, the reputation of Islam is muddied and bloodied, that’s a price the Militant Islamists are more than willing to pay.

Clifford D. May, a former New York Times foreign correspondent, is the president of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies a policy institute focusing on terrorism.
 
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al-Qaeda commander in Iraq, has elaborated: “Killing the infidels is our religion, slaughtering them is our religion, until they convert to Islam or pay us tribute.”
I’m calling all muslim posters here to explain what zarqawi says above! any one dare to explain that to me?? :mad:
 
Good, manipulating words. Why do you look for answeres you have then already urself.
 
Peace,

The article is just from another one-sided commentator to a multi-dimensional situation. It would be more accurate to say "No Muslim outrage covered by the media."

Good Muslims don’t make the news. No reporter wants to hear our story and how our religion speaks the truth and extends peace. There are over 1 billion Muslims, and any rational person would realize that you cannot generalize an entire religion based on the actions of 0.00002% of people who call themselves “Muslim”. You should also know that any logical person would not generalize an entire religion by the actions of a small fraction of the so-called followers; you judge a religion based upon its foundation of beliefs and creed.

“Whosoever kills an innocent human being, it shall be as if he has killed all mankind, and whosoever saves the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind.” (Quran 5:32)

“You do not do evil to those who do evil to you, but you deal with them with forgiveness and kindness.” (Sahih Al-Bukhari)
 
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Shadowcry:
Good, manipulating words how like a terrorist.
ok. so you just simply put them as terrorist. they do it in the name of god, using quranic verses, killing people, where are you peace muslims? explain to me WHERE WERE YOU on the day of the tragedy that jay29 mentioned above?? :eek: no where… some even smiling… or laughing… cheerings… when see the infidels dead by suicide bombers especially on 9/11… millions tv cameras recorded that, didnt you realise it? :mad:
 
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FitrahGuidedMe:
Peace,

The article is just from another one-sided commentator to a multi-dimensional situation. It would be more accurate to say "No Muslim outrage covered by the media."

Good Muslims don’t make the news. No reporter wants to hear our story and how our religion speaks the truth and extends peace. There are over 1 billion Muslims, and any rational person would realize that you cannot generalize an entire religion based on the actions of 0.00002% of people who call themselves “Muslim”. You should also know that any logical person would not generalize an entire religion by the actions of a small fraction of the so-called followers; you judge a religion based upon its foundation of beliefs and creed.

“Whosoever kills an innocent human being, it shall be as if he has killed all mankind, and whosoever saves the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind.” (Quran 5:32)

“You do not do evil to those who do evil to you, but you deal with them with forgiveness and kindness.” (Sahih Al-Bukhari)
Hey… thats the talmud narration you are talking about… 😃 😃 😃 pls quote another narrations or verses… kinda boring to hear about this one… the Jews knew it long time ago before your prophet’s time, that kill one person is just like you kill the entire society… :tsktsk:
 
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FitrahGuidedMe:
Peace,

The article is just from another one-sided commentator to a multi-dimensional situation. It would be more accurate to say "No Muslim outrage covered by the media."

Good Muslims don’t make the news. No reporter wants to hear our story and how our religion speaks the truth and extends peace. There are over 1 billion Muslims, and any rational person would realize that you cannot generalize an entire religion based on the actions of 0.00002% of people who call themselves “Muslim”.
You say it’s 0.000002% of the population but in another post I showed a poll by Saudi Arabia that showed over half of all Saudi’s have a very favorable view of Osama Bin Laden, and another one that showed 95% of educated males between 25 and 40 had very favorable views of Osama (if you want sources look at the links in the thread titles “Islam” in this forum).

I’m sorry the problem is not 0.00002% it’s clearly much more widespread. It is written in your holy book to kill us if we don’t convert, or pay you dhimitude. These guys aren’t simply ‘terrorists’, they’re just actually practicing what Islam preaches.
 
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Shadowcry:
Good, manipulating words. Why do you look for answeres you have then already urself.
You had given me the answer right before you edit it :D. I didnt know the answer… I was asking… you gave me the answer that zarqawi was terrorist… 😛

why did you then edit your own answer? because you believe that zarqawi is not terrorist, right? because he was right under the light of the teaching, wasnt he? so either Islam=Terrorism or Terrorism=Islam. You pick!!
 
Cyber Knight:
ok. so you just simply put them as terrorist. they do it in the name of god, using quranic verses, killing people, where are you peace muslims? explain to me WHERE WERE YOU on the day of the tragedy that jay29 mentioned above?? :eek: no where… some even smiling… or laughing… cheerings… when see the infidels dead by suicide bombers especially on 9/11… millions tv cameras recorded that, didnt you realise it? :mad:
Getting a little angry are you, well I frankly was not there at the place of those tragedies. But for what does that matter, since your consumed with hate I suppose the destruction of the muslims would appease you.
 
Cyber Knight:
You had given me the answer right before you edit it :D. I didnt know the answer… I was asking… you gave me the answer that zarqawi was terrorist… 😛

why did you then edit your own answer? because you believe that zarqawi is not terrorist, right? because he was right under the light of the teaching, wasnt he? so either Islam=Terrorism or Terrorism=Islam. You pick!!
No I thought that would insult you but know it doesnt matter. And again I havent agreed with anything you have said So you are putting answers into your own head.
 
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Shadowcry:
No I thought that would insult you but know it doesnt matter. And again I havent agreed with anything you have said So you are putting answers into your own head.
First of all, I wont feel offended if anyone call me terrorist. 😛 because:
  1. I’m not. :angel1:
  2. not by words or actions :tsktsk:
You had given 2 answers on the same thread… and I was just trying to simplify. And now you call me put the answers into my own head? 😃 😃 . oh well ok then… no more argue… 👍
 
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Shadowcry:
Getting a little angry are you, well I frankly was not there at the place of those tragedies. But for what does that matter, since your consumed with hate I suppose the destruction of the muslims would appease you.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 😉
 
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