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april32010
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and where has this been done?
( can you link the bell thread ,i can’t find it)
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( can you link the bell thread ,i can’t find it)
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JReducation
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About a year ago, I said that some of our friars in the missions don’t have $1 for bell. However, that’s not a major deal for us.and where has this been done?
a. A bell does not make or break the mass.
b. $1, in many countries, can feed a family for an entire day and sometimes more.
c. The little money that the friars receive from the mother house goes to meeting the needs of their people. Feeding the hungry is a greater good than having a sanctuary bell. One must always opt for the greater good. Feeding the hungry is a command from Jesus himself. A sanctuary bell is a disicpline that the Church adopted and it can dispense with as well.
Where there seems to be the misunderstanding of placing Francis over Christ is this whole question about rubrics. As I said many times. Many religious orders, including Franciscans, have their own missals and liturgical books. They have their own rubrics. These rubrics are approved by the Sacred Congregation for Divine Worship.
In addition, a superior is an ordinary, equal to a bishop. Whatever dispensations a bishop can give regarding the mass, can also be given by a superior to any priest who celebrates the mass in his chapel or church, because that’s his turf.
This is true for all of the major religious orders of men.
None of this places St. Francis over Christ or the Church, because all of this is approved by the Church.
As I said before, the subject of this particular thread is not liturgy. It’s a flash mob. The only rules to a flash mob as those that the superior of the house makes. The Church has no rules on this. General rules of reverence and great care for the Blessed Sacrament apply as they would to someone walking down the street with the Blessed Sacrament in his pocket as he makes his way to the home of a sick person.
You can’t apply liturgical rules to a non liturgical action. It does not work. It makes no difference which religious order is involved. The rules of the flash mob are made up on the spot by the superior and the local pastor, if there is one. I’m not sure why we’re even discussing the mass and the bells used at mass.
As has been said by the Church herself, no one except the superior and the pope has the authority to pass judgment on an individual religious who is exempt or on a community that is exempt.
One can disagree without passing judgment. The moment one accuses another of idolatry, which is the accusation here “putting St. Francis before Christ and the Church” one is passing judgment and publicly condemning another person."
No one should pass judgment on or condemn anyone. In addition to what scripture tells us about this, the Church has added the Right of Exemption. If one claims to be faithful to the Church, one must then comply with Church law. Therefore, one needs to back off exempt religious not for their sake, but out of fidelity to Church law.
Fraternally,
Br. JR, FFV
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Exorcist
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Actually they don’t. They use the same order of the Mass that the rest of the Latin Rite uses. Their calendar is different but the “rubrics” are the same.
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