A Catholic planning to fast for Ramadan next year

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If you crave dialogue and/or friendship why don’t you ask your neighbors in which way you can support them during Ramadan. I can imagine it’s tough to do any work for instance without anything to drink in that heat. You could also drive the family to their mosque so that they won’t have to walk in that heat. In return your Muslim neighbors could do something for you during lent. I sold my chametz (wheat products) to my Muslim neighbor before Pessach and got it back around a week later.
I’ve often wondered why G-d allows three religions and I believe the reason is that we can all support each other 🙂
 
I just decided to fast for Ramadan 2014, which starts June 29 next year for 40 days.

No worries, I’m not in any danger of converting. I just think that to truly love our neighbor, we must be open to walking a mile in their shoes. I also think that’s the only way to effectively evangelize.

Here’s a great video that went a long way toward convincing me.
Gee, as the faithful Catholic that I’m sure you are, why don’t you run this by your pastor and see what he has to say?

Because there are soooooo many Catholic devotions that you could do instead of embracing Islam., I wonder why you don’t try them?

The Rosary, The Divine Mercy Chaplet, The Chaplet to the Holy Spirit, the 54 Day Novena, reading the Catechism/Vatican 2 documents for the year of faith, etc…

Some Catholics fast Wednesdays and Fridays-and not just in Lent!

Again, I advise you to go to your pastor and tell him you’d like to incorporate a Muslim practice into Catholicism.
 
Gee, as the faithful Catholic that I’m sure you are, why don’t you run this by your pastor and see what he has to say?

Because there are soooooo many Catholic devotions that you could do instead of embracing Islam., I wonder why you don’t try them?

The Rosary, The Divine Mercy Chaplet, The Chaplet to the Holy Spirit, the 54 Day Novena, reading the Catechism/Vatican 2 documents for the year of faith, etc…

Some Catholics fast Wednesdays and Fridays-and not just in Lent!

Again, I advise you to go to your pastor and tell him you’d like to incorporate a Muslim practice into Catholicism.
what happened on Wednesday?
 
You could try following the Jewish calendar, we’re always involved in some form of food OCD - or being about to be.
 
what happened on Wednesday?
fisheaters.com/fasting.html First reference I came across.

Quote pulled from above: Wednesdays and Fridays are still days of penance in most Eastern Catholic Churches (and among the Orthodox), but in the Roman Church, only Fridays, as memorials to the day our Lord was crucified, remain as weekly penitential days on which abstinence from meat and other forms of penance are expected as the norm. 1 From the 1983 Code of Canon Law:
 
fisheaters.com/fasting.html First reference I came across.

Quote pulled from above: Wednesdays and Fridays are still days of penance in most Eastern Catholic Churches (and among the Orthodox), but in the Roman Church, only Fridays, as memorials to the day our Lord was crucified, remain as weekly penitential days on which abstinence from meat and other forms of penance are expected as the norm. 1 From the 1983 Code of Canon Law:
Didn’t know this. Thanks! 🙂
 
Three recommendations…
  1. Talk to to tour pastor/priest adviser/confessor first…this a longstanding principle to get approval for something outside the “norm”…don’t trust yourself to decide if your intention/reasons are sound/valid…and don’t be too quick to say it will have no negative effect on your Christian Faith…let your priest counsel you…validate your intentions.
  2. Don’t tell anyone what you are doing other than your priest…it can be easily misconstrued and be somewhat scandalous…its not a normal to take a Christian practice and follow it in a non-Christian faith group’s liturgical season.
  3. If he approves, offer it for the conversion of Muslims to the Christian faith. This seems to me, to be a valid/good reason to do it.
All excellent ideas, Lancer. I will do that!

I have to say that part of my rationale is evangelism, not devotion as some of the other replies to my OP seem to think. While I can always improve my personal devotion, I’m trying to be a Christian witness. Toward that end, I would quote the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith’s “Doctrinal Note on some Aspects of Evangelization”:
“Evangelization also involves a sincere dialogue that seeks to understand the reasons and feelings of others. Indeed, the heart of another person can only be approached in freedom, in love and in dialogue, in such a manner that the word which is spoken is not simply offered, but also truly witnessed in the hearts of those to whom it is addressed. This requires taking into account the hopes, sufferings and concrete situations of those with whom one is in dialogue. Precisely in this way, people of good will open their hearts more freely and share their spiritual and religious experiences in all sincerity. This experience of sharing, a characteristic of true friendship, is a valuable occasion for witnessing and for Christian proclamation.”
As to danger of conversion, I consider their faith a fabrication of caliphs Abu Bakr and Uthman from largely dyophysite Christian liturgy from the north and west of the Hijaz, Christian folk stories such as the apocryphal “Infancy Gospel of Thomas”, and polemic by (possibly dyophysite Christian) Muhammad against miaphysite Christology. I’ve posted on a number of these topics on Catholic Answers previously. I’ve gone head-to-head with proselytizing Muslims seeking to convert me on a fair number of occasions. But in my experience, when someone who’s trying to convert you starts hearing how their own faith is built on shaky foundations, they tend to retreat.

That being said, to me, the fast is a way to shine a light on the Catholic Church. Muslims criticize Christians almost entirely on the basis of a *sola fiideles *soteriology, which they attribute to St. Paul (based on an out-of-context reading of Romans 3 and Galatians 2). In my experience, Muslims don’t have a good understand of how in Catholicism, ecclesiology (the one body) is central to soteriology (see, for example, Romans 3; much of 1 Corinthians and 1 John; John 17; Revelation 21). This is because (unfamiliar to Muslims and many Christians), Jesus inaugurated the Kingdom of God, in fulfillment of the Hebrew scriptures. Christ as the restored Davidic King of Israel, “a light unto the nations,” proclaimed justice for the poor (e.g., Matt 25), salvation for the Gentiles (e.g., Mark 7:24-30, Matt 15:21-28;26, John 11), and the Fatherhood of God. Perhaps in my fasting, I’ll have a chance to share this with Muslims… they tend to react allergically to statements of creed (e.g., the Trinity), so stories of Jesus (whom they revere) may be the way in. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light… so I’m just going to go with that!
 
You seem to be really knowledgeable about Islam.

I was wondering if you could clarify something because I’m not sure I understand. How exactly would you evangelise Muslims with this fasting? I am now intrigued. God bless for having such zeal for spreading the faith among them.
 
You seem to be really knowledgeable about Islam.

I was wondering if you could clarify something because I’m not sure I understand. How exactly would you evangelise Muslims with this fasting? I am now intrigued. God bless for having such zeal for spreading the faith among them.
Thank you for your kind words.

As to how I’ll evangelize, I’m not sure. I think it’s about putting myself into the right place and time to talk about faith. I’m sure that many opportunities will arise from people asking why I’m doing it. We’ll see…
 
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It doesn’t seem like a good idea to observe the practices of a false religion, even if one doesn’t actually accept the religion. Christians in ancient Rome died for refusing to do the equivalent.
I agree!
 
Repent: you are deceived into thinking that you are being charitable or evangelistic by practicing a false religion.
 
I just decided to fast for Ramadan 2014, which starts June 29 next year for 40 days.

No worries, I’m not in any danger of converting. I just think that to truly love our neighbor, we must be open to walking a mile in their shoes. I also think that’s the only way to effectively evangelize.

Here’s a great video that went a long way toward convincing me.
You are not fasting to the Christian God but a false god. The only way to evangelize is to show the Truth, not the Sears Bait and Switch.
 
I just decided to fast for Ramadan 2014, which starts June 29 next year for 40 days.

No worries, I’m not in any danger of converting. I just think that to truly love our neighbor, we must be open to walking a mile in their shoes. I also think that’s the only way to effectively evangelize.

Here’s a great video that went a long way toward convincing me.
St. Paul didn’t join the pagan stuff because he was loving his neighbor. Instead he gave them Christ
 
Fasting is a good idea. We all should be better people by controlling our hunger when many of our fellow man suffer without proper sustenance, thus keep them in our minds to make us more humble. That said, when you break your fast, don’t overeat because the less fortunate don’t even get that chance. 👍

MJ
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Personally, I don’t think the overture would impress the Muslims about Christianity. It will only makes them think that their religion is better that a Christian should follow their practice. We should know Muslims’ mentality towards other religion, most especially towards Christianity as seen from history throughout the ages. Thus I think the OP in trying to fast during Ramadan is not doing it the right way.

Muslims would be more impressed by our own steadfastness, piuosness, being prayerful and just being good Christians, humble and charitable as in the footstep of Christ. They may not believe in our religion, but they understand those things.

Lent is our fasting season. If that is not enough, there is no limit that one can do in fasting; not just Lent but anytime.
 
My grandmother was fasting with rules that are, as I have finded later, muslims; I do not know how she decided for herself but this is the way she fasted: one vegetable meal in the mornig (no butter, eggs, milk fish or anything) before the sunrise (but anyway she woke up early) and another vegetable one after the sunset (again, she used to eat very early in the morning and late in the evening); during the day water or some tea. She was fasting during lent advent and 2 weeks before the assumption; also during the year to honor the saints.
 
Orthodox fasting is much tougher, but very few still keep it as it was centuries ago. Usualy is too hard to keep up with the work.
 
My grandmother was fasting with rules that are, as I have finded later, muslims; I do not know how she decided for herself but this is the way she fasted: one vegetable meal in the mornig (no butter, eggs, milk fish or anything) before the sunrise (but anyway she woke up early) and another vegetable one after the sunset (again, she used to eat very early in the morning and late in the evening); during the day water or some tea. She was fasting during lent advent and 2 weeks before the assumption; also during the year to honor the saints.
Wow! You could probably learn everything there was to know early on
 
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