A couple of thoughts on Vatican II

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IntegraCatholic said:
Right. The question is whether the Church can remove that obligation.
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The Church can’t remove the obligation to keep the Lord’s Day holy. That’s Divine Law.

If you read canon law, you will see that under certain circumstances you may pray at home.
Can. 1248 §1 The obligation of assisting at Mass is satisfied wherever Mass is celebrated in a catholic rite either on a holyday itself or on the evening of the previous day.
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§2 If it is impossible to assist at a eucharistic celebration, either because no sacred minister is available or for some other grave reason, the faithful are strongly recommended to take part in a liturgy of the Word, if there be such in the parish church or some other sacred place, which is celebrated in accordance with the provisions laid down by the diocesan Bishop; or to spend an appropriate time in prayer, whether personally or as a family or, as occasion presents, in a group of families.
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Facing Reality
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Bishop Dale J. Melczek
It is a great concern for me, and I hope for you, that so many of the faithful absent themselves from regular participation in Sunday Mass for little or no reason. I fear that their faith will whither up and die. As our bodies will die without food, so our souls will whither without nourishment. The Venerable John Paul II put it well: “When Sunday loses its fundamental meaning and becomes merely a part of a ‘weekend,’ it can happen that people stay locked within a horizon so limited that they can no longer see the heavens.”

On the other hand, with our regular, active, and faithful participation at Sunday Eucharist, our relationship with the Lord and with one another is intensified and our future glory is assured.

Please use the occasion of this beautiful Feast of the Body and Blood of Our Lord as an opportunity to pray intensely for those who have drifted from regular participation at Sunday Mass and suggest, in a humble and kindly fashion, that they consider returning.
 
ProVobis said:
The Church can’t remove the obligation to keep the Lord’s Day holy. That’s Divine Law.
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The obligation is to keep the Sabbath holy. The Church already changed that to Sunday. Divine law requires that men pay divine worship to God in justice. Is it divine law that this worship be paid at a weekly interval? I’m not sure. As I said, I would have to do more reading. If someone has material readily available about this, that would be interesting to read.
 
doanli said:
I am one of those who grew up with guitar Masses , love the TLMs, and try to attend one whenever and wherever I can. 🙂
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Me too 🙂 Maybe guitar Masses should stick around, they send a lot of new recruits to the TLM 👍
 
The Church did at one time at least consider removing the need for people to attend Sunday Mass since the priest was offering all the prayers of sacrifice for the people anyway and they were simply passive in the process.

I’d have to go back through my files to find the discussion but my recollection is that it involved having a yearly requirement during Easter similar to our current requirement of receiving communion at least once a year during the Easter season.
 
ProVobis said:
Why the doubt?
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Because that isn’t what the Commandment says. The Sabbath is tied into the ceremonious and judicial laws of the Old Testament, which have passed away with the far better covenant our Lord has made to the Church.
 
IntegraCatholic said:
Because that isn’t what the Commandment says. The Sabbath is tied into the ceremonious and judicial laws of the Old Testament, which have passed away with the far better covenant our Lord has made to the Church.
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Then it behooves us to go back to the original documents to find out the Divine Law. I’ll see what I can do.
 
 
That’s a lot to read. Do you think you could narrow it down a bit to the relevant points, i.e., that after the Sabbath passed away that there is a divine precept that we render divine worship to God on one day appointed from every week? What’s more, how could this be of divine precept in se, when the Sabbath wasn’t observed before Moses?
 
IntegraCatholic said:
That’s a lot to read. Do you think you could narrow it down a bit to the relevant points, i.e., that after the Sabbath passed away that there is a divine precept that we render divine worship to God on one day appointed from every week? What’s more, how could this be of divine precept in se, when the Sabbath wasn’t observed before Moses?
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Good questions. However we probably also need to distinguish between natural law, Divine Law, and Mosaic Law. I perhaps get confused there too. Maybe some more reading will help us both.
 
ProVobis said:
Actually Saturday vigil or Sunday

Why the doubt?
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Well, as far as the sabath, we know that was changed to Sunday in honor of Christ’s resurrection. And as far as worshipping God, we are to do that on a daily basis. Formally on Sunday or the Saturday vigil.
 
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