A Mantilla/Veil Question

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I am a new Catholic, a convert from Evangelicalism, and I have wanted to start wearing a mantilla at mass but I have not done so as yet, however I took the step and purchased a mantilla.

I am in graduate school and the parish church that I currently attend is quite liberal - gender inclusive language is stressed, sisters frequently give the homily, the overwhelming majority of the congregation stands during the consecration, etc. During the summers I do not live in the college town that I reside in during the year, and the masses that I have been attending are much more conservative, reverent and I really love them. During the summer I hurt my finger badly, and thus was unable to receive the Eucharist in the hand at one mass so, for the first time, I received on the tongue. I really liked doing that better and started to do it more often. The Eucharist is such an incredible blessing, and it was so long that I hungered for Him, I want to show Him reverence.

Do you think that it would be a bad idea to continue recieve on the tongue when I am in town for school?

I have been thinking of wearing the lacy mantilla only at traditional masses where a lot of women wear them but wearing a black satin scarf at my local parish mass, because I don’t want to make anyone uncomfortable (I am African American and many black women wear hair scarves regularly, so I am thinking this will be unobtrusive) but I want to show respect to God. Should I even make this distinction?

Any advice would be much appreciated!!!
 
As far as continuing to receive on the tongue, since it is becoming more and more common now and is the Universal Norm (since receiving in the hand is by indult), I really don’t see anything wrong with it. I do and the parish that I attend is quite liberal also.
As far as the mantilla is concerned, I agree that, at least for now (liturgically, things are really changing under our current pope) I would only wear it at a TLM and wear the black scarf at your summer parish. You could try it at your school parish, however you certainly don’t want (and Our Lord wouldn’t want, I don’t think) to sow division even tho’ your reason doesn’t have anything to do with “judgement”. That seemed to be the reaction I saw, when I veiled, in the eyes of many women who didn’t veil at the conservative parish I attended. They seemed to almost feel hurt, and I certainly didn’t want to be the cause of them feeling hurt! Since it isn’t an imperative, I think charity rules there (where with how you receive Communion, usually only the priest or EMHCs even see).
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Hi, my sister noted that everyone who received Communion directly from the pope at World Youth Masses in Sydney, had been instructed to receive on the tongue. If that’s your preference you certainly have the right!

I think that from a cultural viewpoint you wouldn’t particularly stand out wearing a headscarf at mass even perhaps in a ‘liberal’ parish. I have African friends who wear their unique scarfs, or on special occasions, their headdress, and it is accepted as cultural…so whatever your reasons, it is probably less of a question than if someone else dusts of their mantilla and wears it again.
Be yourself with confidence! God bless you, Trishie
 
A scarf tied nicely over the hair is perfectly acceptable in any case. I have a lace veil, but when I attend my normal home parish, instead of draping it over my head mantilla-style, I just wrap my hair up in it and tie it at the base of my neck. That way I do not call attention to myself.

Here is a very informative article about veiling:

fisheaters.com/theveil.html
 
During the summer I hurt my finger badly, and thus was unable to receive the Eucharist in the hand at one mass so, for the first time, I received on the tongue. I really liked doing that better and started to do it more often. The Eucharist is such an incredible blessing, and it was so long that I hungered for Him, I want to show Him reverence.
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Do you think that it would be a bad idea to continue receive on the tongue when I am in town for school?
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I received the Eucharist for the first time on the tongue last year and have been doing it everywhere I go ever since. Sometimes this startles the EMs but thats their problem. As was pointed out the worldwide norm is on the tongue and on the hand is the result of an indult. No one should ever deny you the Eucharist on the tongue so I say keep doing it.

As for wearing a mantilla I think you have the right idea of wearing something less obvious at your more liberal parish at least until you get used to covering your head there then maybe you can switch.

BTW welcome home:D
 
nsm said:
I am a new Catholic, a convert from Evangelicalism, and I have wanted to start wearing a mantilla at mass but I have not done so as yet, however I took the step and purchased a mantilla.

Any advice would be much appreciated!!!
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If you like the style of a mantilla, by all means wear it wherever you like, even outside of Mass.

However any tasteful head covering will do in Mass. When I was young and the rule of covering one’s head was still in force, no one in my community or the surrounding communities wore mantillas, they are very culturally specific. I do not recall seeing one used at Mass until perhaps the 1980’s, they seem to have popped up out of nowhere as a fashion statement.

As I recall most women in the 1950’s, and 1960’s wore pretty litttle hats, or sometimes wore what we called doilies, pinned on. Obviously my recollections are culturally specific too, but that was pretty much white bread mainstream urban/suburban Midwestern Catholic. I don’t know what most women wore to Mass in the 1920’s and 1930’s.

In the neighborhood parish my father grew up in I also remember seeing headscarves, or babushkas. But these women also wore them in the garden and to the market. 🤷
 
Wear what you want to wear and receive how you wish. If people are uncomfortable because you’re wearing a mantilla or receiving on the tongue then they have a big problem. Very few people take issue with these and the ones that do have far bigger issues than a mantilla. They’re more than likely stuck in the rebellion of the sixties.

You wearing a mantilla or receiving on the tongue is a personal issue between you and God not you and the people around you. As long as you keep it such, there shouldn’t be a problem. And, really, if there is with some person who feels that their mandates are God’s, who the heck cares?👍
 
I receive Communion on the tongue wherever I go. In fact, I have never received in the hand. The only two times I have ever touched a consecrated host was when someone dropped it and I picked it up.
 
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Wear what you want to wear and receive how you wish. If people are uncomfortable because you’re wearing a mantilla or receiving on the tongue then they have a big problem. Very few people take issue with these and the ones that do have far bigger issues than a mantilla. They’re more than likely stuck in the rebellion of the sixties.

You wearing a mantilla or receiving on the tongue is a personal issue between you and God not you and the people around you. As long as you keep it such, there shouldn’t be a problem. And, really, if there is with some person who feels that their mandates are God’s, who the heck cares?👍
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Hi Bear, long time no see, or is it me who has not seen?

Anyway, NSM, Bear answered great! We only have the OF/NO Mass available & the wife has always worn a hat in Church & a couple of months back ordered 4 different colors of chapel veils & is able to match which one with her clothing. She wears a veil to please God and as bear says above, who cares what someone else thinks! 👍

And We receive on the tongue only when we can receive from the priest or deacon. Another 👍
 
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Hi Bear, long time no see, or is it me who has not seen?

Anyway, NSM, Bear answered great! We only have the OF/NO Mass available & the wife has always worn a hat in Church & a couple of months back ordered 4 different colors of chapel veils & is able to match which one with her clothing. She wears a veil to please God and as bear says above, who cares what someone else thinks! 👍

And We receive on the tongue only when we can receive from the priest or deacon. Another 👍
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Nope, I haven’t been around much. Been really busy!👍
 
I’m not trained theologically - nor do I do as much research as many of our fellow posters here who can give you links for information.

I will say this: The priest’s hands are consecrated when he is ordained - Mine haven’t been. I wouldn’t dare touch the Sacred Host, if just out of respect.

As for a mantilla, I try to always cover my head with veil or hat, depending (scarf idea that’s been given sounds ideal) - no matter what Church - unless I’ve stopped in without knowing in advance.
 
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Any advice would be much appreciated!!!
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(1) Wear your mantilla if it comforts you or helps you to pray.
(2) Read the GIRM (which you can get from the USCCB.org website), and write to the bishop when it is violated.
(3) find a real Catholic parish… no one but a Bishop, Priest, or Deacon is allowed to preach during Divine Worship services, which for the Romans, is the Mass.
 
Aramis said:
(1) Wear your mantilla if it comforts you or helps you to pray.
(2) Read the GIRM (which you can get from the USCCB.org website), and write to the bishop when it is violated.
(3) find a real Catholic parish… no one but a Bishop, Priest, or Deacon is allowed to preach during Divine Worship services, which for the Romans, is the Mass.
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nsm said:
Do you think that it would be a bad idea to continue recieve on the tongue when I am in town for school?
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No, it’s not a bad idea.

And lace, scarf, hat, cap, etc., is all fine.
Either/or 👍
 
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