A Miracle On The Public Television News

[OneTrueCathApos]

**Last night I was shocked that they actually had a 10 minute news story about the miracle that was attributed to the late Bishop John Henry Neuman who was a Protestant convert and who made the statement “To be deep in history, is to cease to be Protestant”.
There was a man who was in excruciating pain in Massachusetts and was hunched over and couldn’t stand up straight for months. He wanted to become a Deacon very badly so he prayed to Bishop Neuman and he said the next day he woke up with absolutely no pain whatsoever. The best part is that the Vatican is now involved and recognizes this to be true. Doctors have said there is no medical explanation for it.
Why is it that there are no Protestant so-called miracles on the news only Catholic? **

 

[piperspop]

** Why is it that there are no Protestant so-called miracles on the news only Catholic? **

I would think the short answer is that only the RC church has an entire bureaucracy devoted to determining what is or is not a miracle. Other churches don’t have the funds to support such an endeavor.

 

[josie_L]

**Last night I was shocked that they actually had a 10 minute news story about the miracle that was attributed to the late Bishop John Henry Neuman who was a Protestant convert and who made the statement “To be deep in history, is to cease to be Protestant”.
There was a man who was in excruciating pain in Massachusetts and was hunched over and couldn’t stand up straight for months. He wanted to become a Deacon very badly so he prayed to Bishop Neuman and he said the next day he woke up with absolutely no pain whatsoever. The best part is that the Vatican is now involved and recognizes this to be true. Doctors have said there is no medical explanation for it.
Why is it that there are no Protestant so-called miracles on the news only Catholic? **

I believe though he would need another miracle to his name in order to be considered “blessed”

 

[Dale_M]

Here is a local newspaper account:

If he didn’t have the surgery immediately, Sullivan’s doctor said he could be paralyzed. At the time, Sullivan was training to be a deacon, and classes were six to eight weeks away. He had two years of training left to go before his ordination.

“I was told I wouldn’t be able to go back to classes, because I needed surgery and six months to recover before I could walk. I was devastated,” Sullivan said. “I wanted to become a deacon in the church above all else.”

After the appointment, he went home and turned on the television. He tuned into a program on Eternal World Television Network, a Catholic television network, which was discussing Cardinal John Henry Newman’s case for beatification. Newman died 119 years ago in England.

“At the end of the program, they said if you receive any divine favors after praying to him, please notify the postulator for the cause in England. And so I wrote it down, prayed, and the following morning I woke up and there was no pain,” Sullivan said.
Doctors told him to go back to classes.

But Sullivan didn’t pray for healing, but rather to allow him to finish his studies.

wickedlocal.com/marshfield/news/x718274141/Marshfield-mans-cure-a-miracle

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

Last night I was shocked that they actually had a 10 minute news story about the miracle that was attributed to the late Bishop John Henry Neuman who was a Protestant convert and who made the statement “To be deep in history, is to cease to be Protestant”.
**There was a man who was in excruciating pain in Massachusetts and was hunched over and couldn’t stand up straight for months. He wanted to become a Deacon very badly so he prayed to Bishop Neuman and he said the next day he woke up with absolutely no pain whatsoever. The best part is that the Vatican is now involved and recognizes this to be true. Doctors have said there is no medical explanation for it. **
**Why is it that there are no Protestant so-called miracles on the news only Catholic? **

Are you thinking (in part) of St. John Neumann ? Cardinal Newman was never a bishop.​

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Same century, similar names, but otherwise very different.

As for the question: Catholics make a great deal of such things - Protestants don’t.

 

[allischalmers]

**Last night I was shocked that they actually had a 10 minute news story about the miracle that was attributed to the late Bishop John Henry Neuman who was a Protestant convert and who made the statement “To be deep in history, is to cease to be Protestant”.
There was a man who was in excruciating pain in Massachusetts and was hunched over and couldn’t stand up straight for months. He wanted to become a Deacon very badly so he prayed to Bishop Neuman and he said the next day he woke up with absolutely no pain whatsoever. The best part is that the Vatican is now involved and recognizes this to be true. Doctors have said there is no medical explanation for it.
B] Why is it that there are no Protestant so-called miracles on the news only Catholic? **

The news people do not like Protestants or Protestant churches, that is why you never see any thing about Protestant churches. You only see things about the Catholic Church and the Pope

 

[ralphinal]

allischalmers:
The news people do not like Protestants or Protestant churches, that is why you never see any thing about Protestant churches. You only see things about the Catholic Church and the Pope

Oh, yes, the LOVE us .

Truth is, they HATE all Christians.

 

[Faith_at_Large]

allischalmers:
The news people do not like Protestants or Protestant churches, that is why you never see any thing about Protestant churches. You only see things about the Catholic Church and the Pope

Actually, news people love Protestant miracle workers, they expose them all the time. Benny Hinn and Todd Bentley, for examples.

And the media loves to attack the Catholic Church, but positive stories get out too from time to time.

If the media could prove any Catholic miracle to be a fraud, they would love that very much and would have a field day with that. But you are quite right. The Catholic Church has taken very seriously her mandate to test everything and keep only that which is good.

All miracles must be tested against the scriptures and with science to affirm that they are of God and not a hoax or a demonic manifestation.

 

[bilop]

** Why is it that there are no Protestant so-called miracles on the news only Catholic? **

If you want the answer from a Catholic perspective, it’s because everyone who is in Heaven who can intercede is Catholic. Not that there aren’t people who were Protestant on earth in Heaven; but once there, they must be Catholic.

Protestants are much less likely to pray for a miracle, or to ask Mary and the Saints to pray for them, so they are unlikely to get miracles.

God Bless

 

[SteveLohr]

I believe though he would need another miracle to his name in order to be considered “blessed”

The second miracle was that public television reported it!

 

[kalt]

I would think the short answer is that only the RC church has an entire bureaucracy devoted to determining what is or is not a miracle. Other churches don’t have the funds to support such an endeavor.

Why don’t they have the funds?

In areas that are predominantly Protestant, there are enough people going to an individual church to pay for all the things that the Catholic Church does.

Do they have different priorities? Do they get less money in the collection plate?

Aren’t most Protestant churches run almost entirely locally? Couldn’t the local pastor decide on his own when a miracle has happened. I wouldn’t think that that would be expensive.

On the miracles thing. I think they just let everyone think what they will about any miracle claim. If someone wants to believe their cure is a miracle, good. They don’t worry about finding the truth about the claim.

I’m sure that most “miracles” that happen to Catholics fall into the same pattern. The family and friends decide the cure is a miracle, and that’s it. No one investigates, because no one outside the person’s small circle of family and friends hears about it.

 

[kalt]

allischalmers:
The news people do not like Protestants or Protestant churches, that is why you never see any thing about Protestant churches. You only see things about the Catholic Church and the Pope

You think the newspeople like Catholics?

Just be glad that they didn’t like your church as much as the CC when your ministers molested children. It’s big news when a Catholic priest anywhere is accused. We hardly ever hear of a Protestant minister being accused, though we know it happens. It just doesn’t make national news.

You’ve got to be kidding when you say that the newspeople like the Catholic Church. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Church is a good story to them. Nothing more.

 

[OneTrueCathApos]

You think the newspeople like Catholics?

Just be glad that they didn’t like your church as much as the CC when your ministers molested children. It’s big news when a Catholic priest anywhere is accused. We hardly ever hear of a Protestant minister being accused, though we know it happens. It just doesn’t make national news.

You’ve got to be kidding when you say that the newspeople like the Catholic Church. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Church is a good story to them. Nothing more.

Kalt, do not turn this ugly because I see what you are doing. On **reformation.com **there are hundreds if not thousands of non-Catholic ministers who are molesting children. It only makes news because people are trying to bring down the Catholic church because of their hatred and their jealousies of the one true faith. It will never die as Jesus said so, so get over it.
To even mention it AGAIN is old…

 

[sympathy07]

I thought its the natural miracle because this problem is not gone easily.

 

[kalt]

Kalt, do not turn this ugly because I see what you are doing. On **reformation.com **there are hundreds if not thousands of non-Catholic ministers who are molesting children. It only makes news because people are trying to bring down the Catholic church because of their hatred and their jealousies of the one true faith. It will never die as Jesus said so, so get over it.
To even mention it AGAIN is old…

What is it that you think I was doing. In your post, you merely restated my point.

Perhaps you didn’t understand what was written

This is how the thread went -

We were talking about the media and it’s supposed “love” of the CC. The molestation scandal, as they reported on it in the CC vs Protestant churches, is the perfect example of how the media most certainly does not “love” (favor) the CC.

I have no idea what you think I was doing, but I don’t appreciate the accusation just the same.

Now let’s talk about what you were doing in your original post–implying that God doesn’t perform “so-called miracles” (your offensive language) for non-Catholics.

What an appalling thing for a Catholic to say. What gives you license to claim to limit what God will do, and for which people? How dare you say that God doesn’t perform miracles for Protestants.

Your posts are beyond rude. If they’re not blasphemous, they’re it’s kissing cousins.

Where did you ever hear such rubbish–that God perfroms miracles only for Catholic people? Is this a doctrine you’ve created youself and hope to promulgate here on CAF?
By what authority do you claim the right to create doctrine?

If you truly believe that you haven’t claimed authority for yourself to create doctrine, then please point to the Bilble or the CCC, or any other Catholic document, that backs you up on this point.

If you can’t, (and we all know you can’t) you owe the Protestants on this forum a sincere apology.

 

[OneTrueCathApos]

What is it that you think I was doing. In your post, you merely restated my point.

Perhaps you didn’t understand what was written

This is how the thread went -

We were talking about the media and it’s supposed “love” of the CC. The molestation scandal, as they reported on it in the CC vs Protestant churches, is the perfect example of how the media most certainly does not “love” (favor) the CC.

I have no idea what you think I was doing, but I don’t appreciate the accusation just the same.

Now let’s talk about what you were doing in your original post–implying that God doesn’t perform “so-called miracles” (your offensive language) for non-Catholics.

What an appalling thing for a Catholic to say. What gives you license to claim to limit what God will do, and for which people? How dare you say that God doesn’t perform miracles for Protestants.

Your posts are beyond rude. If they’re not blasphemous, they’re it’s kissing cousins.

Where did you ever hear such rubbish–that God perfroms miracles only for Catholic people? Is this a doctrine you’ve created youself and hope to promulgate here on CAF?
By what authority do you claim the right to create doctrine?

If you truly believe that you haven’t claimed authority for yourself to create doctrine, then please point to the Bilble or the CCC, or any other Catholic document, that backs you up on this point.

If you can’t, (and we all know you can’t) you owe the Protestants on this forum a sincere apology.

I never said the media “favored” Catholic miracles. What I did say was why JUST Catholic miracles are ONLY televised by the news media? Perhaps they have FAITH in our Catholic church? Maybe God does perform miracles for Catholics, since the church is the one He established. This isn’t creating doctrine as you say, it is simply a fact of the media. If you have a gripe (which you always do), take it up with the media.

 

[O.S.Luke]

If you can’t, (and we all know you can’t) you owe the Protestants on this forum a sincere apology.

That won’t happen, Kalt. When we non-Catholics bring something to her attention, we are Catholic bashing. When Catholics do it, they are told “Shame, shame on you.”

She is beyond reproach, in her eyes.

 

[kalt]

I never said the media “favored” Catholic miracles. What I did say was why JUST Catholic miracles are ONLY televised by the news media? Perhaps they have FAITH in our Catholic church? Maybe God does perform miracles for Catholics, since the church is the one He established. This isn’t creating doctrine as you say, it is simply a fact of the media. If you have a gripe (which you always do), take it up with the media.

Of course you didn’t say that. That came from another person.

My gripe with you post is that you called miracles that happen to Protestants “so-called” miracles.

You seem to have extreme difficulty understanding written English and following discussions. This, I think, is why you go around the forum blasting people. Your posts makes no sense sometimes. This is one of those times.

Again, I asked you to find for me proof that the Church teaches that Protestants have “so-called” miracles. If you can’t, and you still insist on this bizzare idea, then you are trying to promulgate a new doctrine.

.

 

[kalt]

That won’t happen, Kalt. When we non-Catholics bring something to her attention, we are Catholic bashing. When Catholics do it, they are told “Shame, shame on you.”

She is beyond reproach, in her eyes.

And she’s wrong so much of the time.

 

[Booklover]

The second miracle was that public television reported it!

I second that!

Vickie